India-Pakistan Conflict

[ProV1]

Hope you as a American citizen never get taken hostage and think you nation would not let you sit and rot till you die. Tell me are there American citizens being held in Gaza. How about India or Pakistan. If you do not see a difference I have no hope for you. In truth I am disappointed in the American response in Gaza.

No two situations are exactly alike. There are Americans in all of those places. That said, the US is not safer because of our support for Israel. What specifically disappoints you?

 

[Cubsandtigers]

Doesn’t Pakistan purchase most of their militiamen from China? In the past I believe India has purchased military equipment from Russia and recently purchased their newest jets from France.

I believe about a year ago India choose a military equipment agreement with the USA over Russia. Sounds like they may be interested in purchasing some F-35’s in the future.

Let’s just hope Pakistan doesn’t hit any of India’s call centers - what would the US do without Indian telemarketers and help desk?

Chinese AD took down one of those French jets. Should be helpful for Chinese military equipment sales. The Chinese base AD systems are based around the Russian S-300 system. The Chinese made a number of improvements to the systems.

I’ll believe us handing over the F-35 to India when I see it. India has a long history of loose lips with military equipment dating back to the Soviet days.

 

[TylerDurden]

I think that it is hilarious that you don't think Trump's senility and mental illness is not comparable point. I mean the guy was asked about Harvard and he went on a rant about black people in NY loving him. I could give you hundreds of other examples.

You wanting something to be true doesn't make it the case. Sorry. There's a reason Trump's done more interviews at this point in his presidency than Biden did in four years and it's obvious to everyone.

You are the biggest MAGA libertarian anybody has ever seen.

You wanting something to be true doesn't make it the case. Sorry. There's a reason I've disagreed with Trump more at this point in his presidency than you did with Biden in four years and it's obvious to everyone.

 

[ProV1]

You wanting something to be true doesn't make it the case. Sorry. There's a reason Trump's done more interviews at this point in his presidency than Biden did in four years and it's obvious to everyone.

The fact that Trump can speak does not make him any more capable. I can understand the words he is using but he usually uses them incorrectly and/or his answers to the questions have nothing to do with what is asked. The guy is a mental disaster but if you want to argue who is worse, have at it. Opinions vary widely on who is/was more incapable.

You wanting something to be true doesn't make it the case. Sorry. There's a reason I've disagreed with Trump more at this point in his presidency than you did with Biden in four years and it's obvious to everyone.

You don't pay attention very well. I actually offer very few opinions about Biden. I think the country did amazingly well relative to the world under his administration. It was much better than I thought possible coming out of the pandemic. Biden himself was a demented shell and I have stated as much many times.

 

[TylerDurden]

The fact that Trump can speak does not make him any more capable. I can understand the words he is using but he usually uses them incorrectly and/or his answers to the questions have nothing to do with what is asked. The guy is a mental disaster but if you want to argue who is worse, have at it. Opinions vary widely on who is/was more incapable.

Yeah he can say stupid things and ramble off on tangents, kind of like Kamala. No one outside of you thinks either of them has dementia.

You don't pay attention very well. I actually offer very few opinions about Biden. I think the country did amazingly well relative to the world under his administration. It was much better than I thought possible coming out of the pandemic. Biden himself was a demented shell and I have stated as much many times.

No I pay attention well. That's why exactly what I said was correct, and your "offer very few opinions about Biden" confirms my point. Thanks! lol

 

[ProV1]

Yeah he can say stupid things and ramble off on tangents, kind of like Kamala. No one outside of you thinks either of them has dementia.

I will just use the example I posted. When Stephen A. asks him a question about the admins cut of funding for Harvard and he goes off on a rant about black voters in NYC, you don't think that is an example of his mental stability? I mean can you think a response from Biden that was any more bizarre?

No I pay attention well. That's why exactly what I said was correct, and you're "offer very few opinions about Biden" confirms my point. Thanks! lol

What did you say previously? Just because you say that does not make it true?

 

[TylerDurden]

I will just use the example I posted. When Stephen A. asks him a question about the admins cut of funding for Harvard and he goes off on a rant about black voters in NYC, you don't think that is an example of his mental stability? I mean can you think a response from Biden that was any more bizarre?

We're not talking bizarre, or rants, or whatever, we're talking about a sitting president with dementia. Biden most definitely fit that description, and Trump does not. Just keep banging that drum though, if Trump lives long enough it'll be the case one day, just not likely the next few years.

What did you say previously? Just because you say that does not make it true?

Seriously? Do you really struggle this much just following a conversation? I've said it before but maybe you need to go back to work, you're obviously struggling mentally yourself if you can't find the post that you just quoted a few minutes ago to see what I said. LOL

 

[ProV1]

We're not talking bizarre, or rants, or whatever, we're talking about a sitting president with dementia. Biden most definitely fit that description, and Trump does not. Just keep banging that drum though, if Trump lives long enough it'll be the case one day, just not likely the next few years.

You are the one who limits mental acuity to just dementia. I am including all cognitive impairments inclusive of dementia, mental illness, attention and concentration disorders, or anything that impairs cognitive ability. I'm not a doctor so I do not know the exact reason for Trump's cognitive dysfunction, but it is obviously very apparent.

Seriously? Do you really struggle this much just following a conversation? I've said it before but maybe you need to go back to work, you're obviously struggling mentally yourself if you can't find the post that you just quoted a few minutes ago to see what I said. LOL

I read your post which is why a paraphrased it.

 

[TylerDurden]

You are the one who limits mental acuity to just dementia. I am including all cognitive impairments inclusive of dementia, mental illness, attention and concentration disorders, or anything that impairs cognitive ability. I'm not a doctor so I do not know the exact reason for Trump's cognitive dysfunction, but it is obviously very apparent.

I didn't limit anything. I made a comment about Biden being senile and you apparently had a problem with it, felt the need to respond, and here we are. It's not my fault you have to make everything about Trump. That's on you and you extremely apparent obsession with him. LOL

I read your post which is why a paraphrased it.

And then asked what I was referring to. Like I said before, thanks for confirming my point. I said I've disagreed with Trump more since he's been in office than you did with 4 years of Biden, and you confirmed by saying you offered very few opinions on Biden.

 

[Costa]

And the war is not over in 24 hours. Did you know that?

Deflection. Weak even by your standards.

 

[ProV1]

I didn't limit anything. I made a comment about Biden being senile and you apparently had a problem with it, felt the need to respond, and here we are. It's not my fault you have to make everything about Trump. That's on you and you extremely apparent obsession with him. LOL

I did not have a problem with it and I have never denied Biden's mental limitations. I simply pointed out it is common with our presidents these days and you have gone to great lengths to try to split hairs between Trump and Biden. I guess that is what libertarians. do.

And then asked what I was referring to. Like I said before, thanks for confirming my point. I said I've disagreed with Trump more since he's been in office than you did with 4 years of Biden, and you confirmed by saying you offered very few opinions on Biden.

How do you know what I disagreed with Biden on? Have we ever had an exchange on that?

 

[ProV1]

Deflection. Weak even by your standards.

Not deflection. Trump made 2 statements about that war. He said the war would have never started and it would be over in 24 hours. The first statement is hypothetical and impossible to prove and the 2nd one has been proven to be false.

 

[winbypin]

Not deflection. Trump made 2 statements about that war. He said the war would have never started and it would be over in 24 hours. The first statement is hypothetical and impossible to prove and the 2nd one has been proven to be false.

Are you speaking of the Russian/Ukraine war?

 

[ProV1]

Are you speaking of the Russian/Ukraine war?

In this instance ... yes.

 

[TylerDurden]

I did not have a problem with it and I have never denied Biden's mental limitations. I simply pointed out it is common with our presidents these days and you have gone to great lengths to try to split hairs between Trump and Biden. I guess that is what libertarians. do.

Pointing out someone has dementia and anther person doesn't has nothing to do with libertarian, republicans or democrats. It's just an observation. Despite what you and lotr believe there are people who are capable of having some degree of neutrality when it comes to politics. Are you really this far gone? Trump really has done a number on some of you.

How do you know what I disagreed with Biden on? Have we ever had an exchange on that?

Thanks yet again for proving my point. I never said I knew, that would be impossible since, as you've stated, you didn't talk about Biden much.
Kind of hard to pretzel your way out of this one isn't it? LOL

 

[MoeDude]

Lot of people immigrating from Gaza to the US?

Strange question. You're acting like ox now Gaza was controlled by the ever loving Hamas who have been sending rockets into Israel and attacking border towns for years. And we should be concerned because that is only part of what's going on with Islamic terrorism.

 

[winbypin]

In this instance ... yes.

Well, we can look to trumps first term and say without a doubt that war did not start while he was president. The evidence supports his claim it wouldn't have started while he was in office.

As far as ending it on day one or within 24 hours....whatever he said....clearly it hasn't.

 

[ProV1]

Pointing out someone has dementia and anther person doesn't has nothing to do with libertarian, republicans or democrats. It's just an observation. Despite what you and lotr believe there are people who are capable of having some degree of neutrality when it comes to politics. Are you really this far gone? Trump really has done a number on some of you.

I'm not sensing much neutrality when it comes to Trumps cognitive deficiencies.

Thanks yet again for proving my point. I never said I knew, that would be impossible since, as you've stated, you didn't talk about Biden much.
Kind of hard to pretzel your way out of this one isn't it? LOL

There are lots of subjects I have not posted about on Yappi. What does my lack of opinions on any of those things have to do with you criticizing Trump? What exactly is the point?

 

[TylerDurden]

Strange question. You're acting like ox now Gaza was controlled by the ever loving Hamas who have been sending rockets into Israel and attacking border towns for years. And we should be concerned because that is only part of what's going on with Islamic terrorism.

I'm simply "acting like' Hamas isn't a threat to the US and individuals from Gaza aren't immigrating here. You guys want to think Hamas is an issue for Israel and that, as such, it should be our problem fine, but at least frame the situation honestly.
And from the Israel perspective, they obviously didn't think Hamas was as big of a problem as you do, as Bibi was making sure to prop them up over the PLA, and make sure they kept those suitcases full of cash coming in.

 

[TylerDurden]

I'm not sensing much neutrality when it comes to Trumps cognitive deficiencies.

List them for me. Be specific. What mental disorders is Trump suffering from that you've observed.

There are lots of subjects I have not posted about on Yappi. What does my lack of opinions on any of those things have to do with you criticizing Trump? What exactly is the point?

Exactly what I said several posts ago. For being MAGA, I disagree with Trump more in a few months than I ever saw you disagree with Biden over the course of 4 years. I'm not really sure why it takes 5 posts for something so simple.

 

[ProV1]

Well, we can look to trumps first term and say without a doubt that war did not start while he was president. The evidence supports his claim it wouldn't have started while he was in office.

As far as ending it on day one or within 24 hours....whatever he said....clearly it hasn't.

They did not invade during Trump's 1st term. They invaded in February of 2022. There is ZERO evidence that Russia would not have invaded in 2022 if Trump was president. This is kind of like saying that if Obama was president in 2018, Ethiopia would not have had a civil war. It is 100% made up.

 

[Cubsandtigers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920501717558272410

WJ

Looks like Pakistans Chinese air defense isn’t the only Chinese equipment performing well. I wonder if the J-10 took down the Rafale.

 

[ProV1]

List them for me. Be specific. What mental disorders is Trump suffering from that you've observed.

I already posted that I am not a doctor so I cannot diagnose the root causes his cognitive impairment. We just know he has significant impairment as evidenced by the video I posted.

Exactly what I said several posts ago. For being MAGA, I disagree with Trump more in a few months than I ever saw you disagree with Biden over the course of 4 years. I'm not really sure why it takes 5 posts for something so simple.

OK. Is that supposed to mean that I never disagreed with Biden or could I have disagreed with him even more than you with Trump?

 

[WJ-OSU-STEELERS]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920501717558272410

WJ

Looks like Pakistans Chinese air defense isn’t the only Chinese equipment performing well. I wonder if the J-10 took down the Rafale.

I would guess it’s one of India’s MIG’s. If it is/was a French made Rafale, I would think Pakistan would have mentioned it.

Or……
* maybe the Chinese J-10 is better than the Rafale
* maybe the Pakistan airforce/pilots are better trained

India will definitely be reevaluating who & what they will be purchasing regarding military equipment. India has China to the NE & Pakistan to the NW to be concerned with.

 

[winbypin]

They did not invade during Trump's 1st term. They invaded in February of 2022. There is ZERO evidence that Russia would not have invaded in 2022 if Trump was president. This is kind of like saying that if Obama was president in 2018, Ethiopia would not have had a civil war. It is 100% made up.

You're acting irrationally and denying fact. Clear evidence they didn't invade during his first term. Civil wars are a little different since they are internal and don't involve one country invading another.

But by all means, keep going with this.

 

[MoeDude]

What's your definition of "western civilization" and from where do you get your information on islamic influence within the UK? I think I'd rather read the original source of these ideas of yours. UK at one time said pretty much exactly that about Catholic migration.

I'm not sure if you are conflating islamic state with palestinian state. What would you have us do in palestine if not "sit it out?"

IF "we" have lost much of Europe to Islamic beliefs, why do you feel that occurred? I don't recall any islamic crusade. IF this has occurred, it would appear to have been the free choice of the people that already lived in those countries. Why do you suppose they would have so easily given up their Christian based beliefs for Islamic ones?

I'm not sure why you are in denial but do an internet search and you can find the numbers and details. For some reason the British Tribune is blocking it's page but here's what shows in the search:

Behind Christianity Islam is now the #2 religion in the UK. There are other articles talking about how Muslims have moved into other cities across the UK and are gaining more and more influence over the country by being elected into government positions(look what's happened in Minnesota here in the US)
Back in 2017 I worked on an IT project in Daventry, UK. While working with a woman at the local facility she started talking about how she felt her country was starting to lose it's identity and being over ridden by the Muslims, that when I started paying more attention to what she was saying.

Here's a link talking about the spread in the UK.

Which city has the most Muslims in England? - Geographic FAQ Hub: Answers to Your Global Questions

Which City Has the Most Muslims in England? The city with the highest population of Muslims in England is London. This fact, while straightforward, opens the door to a more complex understanding of the geographical distribution of Muslim communities across the UK. While London boasts the largest...

www.ncesc.com

Here's an interesting snippet from that link where the website tries to paint a softer picture with it's wording but the reality is the growth of the Muslim "settlements" across the UK.

While London has the highest number, other cities in England also have significant Muslim communities, though their total numbers might be smaller compared to London. Cities like Bradford, Luton, Blackburn, Birmingham, and Dewsbury also have large Muslim populations, often forming a significant proportion of their overall local population. Furthermore, other settlements such as High Wycombe, Aylesbury, Slough, Leicester, and Manchester and the mill towns of Northern England also demonstrate strong and diverse Muslim communities. It’s important to consider not just the total numbers but also the density and how these communities are integrated into local life.

Years ago I saw link and story fully discussing the Muslim migration around the globe and that it was a strategy to take over the globe. When their numbers are small they go with the flow while following their beliefs but as their numbers grow then they begin to force their way of life onto non-believers.

Last year I saw a URL link from Australia where the Australian government was considering banning all Muslim immigration because of the problems they were experiencing from the Muslim "settlements".

What's insane about the pro-Muslim/Gaza protestors and spokespersons here in the US is that many of them would be the first persecuted by the Muslims if they were in complete control.

I'm not very religious person and I think if any religion gains too much power they can become corrupt but the Muslim holy book is the only one that actually tells it's followers to kill the infidel(non-believers). I have a friend who was a knight in the Masons and he has read a lot of religious books through the years. He has stated that the Quran is actually a manifesto and not really a Holy book. It's interesting to hear his explanation on why he believes that.

As for Europe there are cities in European countries where the Muslim influence has taken control and is spreading. All I say to you eastisbest is to open your eyes and start paying attention. Even here in the US there are cities being taken over by Muslims. Watch closely what is going on in a city near Dallas TX. The Muslim "settlement" down there has actually started building for a place called EPIC City. Governor Abbot is trying to stop it. Yes it's a real Catch 22 situation because of the freedoms our country offers. But when do those freedoms reach a point where they are being abused?

I just think you are being naive if you are not seeing what is going on and that by ignoring what is happening or defending in the name of freedom you are only allowing it to grow to the point where freedoms for all will diminish and oppression takes over.

 

[MoeDude]

What's your definition of "western civilization" and from where do you get your information on islamic influence within the UK? I think I'd rather read the original source of these ideas of yours. UK at one time said pretty much exactly that about Catholic migration.

I'm not sure if you are conflating islamic state with palestinian state. What would you have us do in palestine if not "sit it out?"

IF "we" have lost much of Europe to Islamic beliefs, why do you feel that occurred? I don't recall any islamic crusade. IF this has occurred, it would appear to have been the free choice of the people that already lived in those countries. Why do you suppose they would have so easily given up their Christian based beliefs for Islamic ones?

Here is a poll from 2016 in Australia.

New poll suggests 49 per cent of Australians back Muslim migrant ban

Labor leader Bill Shorten has weighed into a poll which shows almost half of all Australians want a ban on Muslim immigration.

www.sbs.com.au

Another note as to why I believe Muslims are a threat, my son is engaged to a young woman whose father is originally from Egypt. He is Christian and he fled Egypt because of the discrimination Christians were experiencing at the hands of the Muslims who controlled the country.

 

[MoeDude]

I'm simply "acting like' Hamas isn't a threat to the US and individuals from Gaza aren't immigrating here. You guys want to think Hamas is an issue for Israel and that, as such, it should be our problem fine, but at least frame the situation honestly.
And from the Israel perspective, they obviously didn't think Hamas was as big of a problem as you do, as Bibi was making sure to prop them up over the PLA, and make sure they kept those suitcases full of cash coming in.

Well in the end the one true element in many crisis is that wealth seems to corrupt a lot of decision making.

I guess we'll agree to disagree about Hamas. They are a terrorist organization that has been plaguing Israel for years. I'm a believer that if you don't stop terrorist from the start then they just grow. Look at ISIS during Trump's first term. He damn near eliminated with the precision bombings that were executed against ISIS leaders. They had a revival somewhat because during Biden's Regime the US backed off.

Hamas and Palestine do have a main gripe against Israel but if they were not beat down I find it difficult to believe that they would have stopped at just overthrowing Israel. Heck even other Muslim nations in the Middle East didn't want to take in Palestinian refugees. But that goes along with how all these different sects in the Middle East hate each other almost as much as they hate the infidel.

 

[ProV1]

You're acting irrationally and denying fact. Clear evidence they didn't invade during his first term. Civil wars are a little different since they are internal and don't involve one country invading another.

But by all means, keep going with this.

No. What is rationale is acknowledging that hypotheticals cannot be supported by evidence. Trump was not president in 2022 so it is IMPOSSIBLE to know what might or could have happened under different circumstance's. All we know is what did happen under the circumstances at the time. Any assertion otherwise is just dumb MAGAs making things up.

 

[winbypin]

No. What is rationale is acknowledging that hypotheticals cannot be supported by evidence. Trump was not president in 2022 so it is IMPOSSIBLE to know what might or could have happened under different circumstance's. All we know is what did happen under the circumstances at the time. Any assertion otherwise is just dumb MAGAs making things up.

It's not a hypothetical to say that Russia did not invade while Trump was president. It's simply a fact. Only hacks like yourself say otherwise.