Holdbacks Baby!!!

SPGT said:
I feel like someone is embellishing a bit here, I know the 3 PA Jrs. that have verbally committed D1 already and I can promise none of those 3 are getting that deal. Kross Cassidy to George Mason, Dom Deputy to NC state, and Elijah Brown to Pitt. None of those three have won a State title. Dom made the Finals last year.
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Idk if you count the Alston money for 20k a year, which it is… That’s about right…
 
Huckleberry said:
Have we met? I'm not sure what that means, but I do know many of the wrestlers in central Ohio who are on D1 scholarships. I don't know of many who are in a different boat.

The unfortunate truth is this sport has largely become reliant on specialized training. That, combined with the travel expenses, is in most cases a significant amount of money. It seems like baseball and soccer are the same way, maybe basketball too. The monetization of youth sports has not made it better, in my opinion
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I’m not hating, but there is no denying that OLHS has many advantages over many other schools in terms of resources to support their athletic program, and parents willing/able to out their kids in the best position to succeed. Plus top notch facilities including standalone wrestling center & weight rooms rivaling the best the nation (colleges included), something like 6 or 7 Lax fields on campus, plans for multi-sport field house. Located between 2 large Private Country club communities w/ average home prices north of $700k. And a Coach with a club /training facility that promotes red shirting 8th grade wrestlers.

I agree that he monetization of youth sports has not made it better, but as they say, "Don’t hate the player, hate the game".
 
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Dr. Creep said:
As a tax payer, my biggest issue is helping fund an extra year of school for a student that is not needed.
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Yes, and I wish more schools would stand up against it. I know of a school in my area that doesn't allow holding back for non-academic reasons but of course the parents just pull them for a year and send them to private school and then come back and re-enroll in public school after the hold back year. Doesn't really fix the problem but it at least somewhat inconveniences that parents and saves the tax payers from paying for that additional year.
 
Combo said:
Yes, and I wish more schools would stand up against it. I know of a school in my area that doesn't allow holding back for non-academic reasons but of course the parents just pull them for a year and send them to private school and then come back and re-enroll in public school after the hold back year. Doesn't really fix the problem but it at least somewhat inconveniences that parents and saves the tax payers from paying for that additional year.
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The tax payers are not paying for an additional year. They're paying every year, regardless of the enrollment. Do you really think the budget changes per student/ per year?
 
Huckleberry said:
The tax payers are not paying for an additional year. They're paying every year, regardless of the enrollment. Do you really think the budget changes per student/ per year?
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A child is a financial unit Budgets are set accordingly. What if we increased the graduation standards to grade 13. Cost wouldn't go up? I also don't care about hold backs.
 
Cost per student is definitely a thing. Which is why there are NUMEROUS districts in Central Ohio who do surveillance on kids suspected of living outside their district.
 
Combo said:
It actually does, ask someone on your local school board.
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Huckleberry said:
The tax payers are not paying for an additional year. They're paying every year, regardless of the enrollment. Do you really think the budget changes per student/ per year?
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You are right, I suppose.I misspoke. What I should have said was your taxes don’t change per student/per year. Your taxes are not set by the school budget, rather the other way around.
 
schools also have a "count week" THe schools funding is based on per kid at school. SO actually, the schools amount of money is determined by how many kids are in during that week. The more kids in school= more funding. Your school will benefit financially by having kids in school for longer. I know 100 percent fact that kids wont get suspended during count weeks and there are big incentives for not missing school that week.
 
Combo said:
Yes, and I wish more schools would stand up against it. I know of a school in my area that doesn't allow holding back for non-academic reasons but of course the parents just pull them for a year and send them to private school and then come back and re-enroll in public school after the hold back year. Doesn't really fix the problem but it at least somewhat inconveniences that parents and saves the tax payers from paying for that additional year.
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Doesnt save the tax payer any money if you think thats how it works. Have you heard of ed choice, the money that would go to the public school is now credited to the private school
 
SW Supporter said:
Doesnt save the tax payer any money if you think thats how it works. Have you heard of ed choice, the money that would go to the public school is now credited to the private school
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You're correct but the need to increase taxes should be lessened. Local funding and state money are two streams of revenue. Federal is another stream. Then there are other mechanism. Look at the school levies on the ballot. Those districts need additional funds for the students. Those students are financial units.

I'd refer you to the Ohio Cupp report to start. Interesting financial information about the district you live in.
 
wrestlfan said:
schools also have a "count week" THe schools funding is based on per kid at school. SO actually, the schools amount of money is determined by how many kids are in during that week. The more kids in school= more funding. Your school will benefit financially by having kids in school for longer. I know 100 percent fact that kids wont get suspended during count weeks and there are big incentives for not missing school that week.
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Why is there a need for levies?
 
SPGT said:
Really? building/ campus upgrades, adding staff, bussing repairs/ upgrades, lowering pay to play, new technology, etc. etc, etc.
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Do you know what a Bond is? What is it used for?

Staffing is based upon student count
Pay to play is a financial joke
New technology can be specifically funded by grants or other mechanism. It might also be a general expense.

Operating Levy vrs Bond
 
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Holdbacks are almost always a student with special needs (a person with a disability). Factually, a supermajority of holdbacks are persons with disabilities.

The Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) is a federal law that protects children with disabilities from birth through high school graduation or age 21, whichever comes first.
 
Dr. Creep said:
This has to be the dumbest response I’ve ever heard.
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Dr. Creep said:
My remark should look familiar to you based one you made earlier in this thread. I'm a little disappointed you didn't get the joke.
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I got it. It is all in good fun.

I didn’t want to get too far into the weeds about property taxes and school funding, but the year-to-year population of your school district is not what determines the tax level. Besides, most (if not all) of the holdbacks I know are either home schooled or sent to private school during their repeat year.
 
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