This was explained about 5 times in the thread already. Pick any variant you want. They generally say the same thing. I may suggest post # 199 as a good starting point. Maybe have somebody in your household read it to you if you are having trouble.
There are few jobs anyone should be ashamed to do, nor be shamed for doing them. I’ve been on every end of the spectrum, from toilet scrubbing, construction, concrete, factory work, landscaping, intense physical labor, forklift operator, agricultural work all the way to the upper strata of professional work. Though I knew I could do better for myself than many of the jobs I had at the time, I also knew it was up to me to credential myself to seek better opportunities. It took a good amount of time and effort, but I got there. Along the way, though, over those many years, I always did the very best I could at every job and never allowed anyone to make me feel inferior in some way.
Appreciate the reply. I have also had just about every job under the sun as well. I believe in the dignity of work regardless of job or position. I find it interesting to see where others fall on this topic. Sometimes the jobs that no one else will lower themselves to take are the most difficult. Again, not necessarily suggesting that they should earn more to start, but it's a worthwhile discussion to engage. I work with a lot of 'office types' now that likely still don't understand the importance of those who clean the bathroom stalls or edge the manicured lawns at the corporate office.
Agree 100%. Your experience sounds very much like mine. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
I think working your way up from the bottom, and having it take some serious time and effort to do it, is a great advantage. I’ve lived the experiences of far more people, walked in more shoes…so to speak, than the vast majority of my current professional peers who went from HS to college to professional school and landed very high paying jobs at a pretty young age, but have zero life experience or relatability to the general public.Agree 100%. Your experience sounds very much like mine. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
You didnt explain anything. Your stance over and over has been that revenue drives business. So, when revenue is strong and you still cant staff, what is the issue?
Let's just say teaching wasn't for me and for personal reasons I moved on. I wasn't in any way trying to diminish what teachers do. I think they are vital in the lives of children and if it hadn't been for some of my teachers and coaches, I don't know if I would have made it. I was simply saying that with summers off and xmas/spring break, holidays etc, teachers have less of a time commitment to their job than the majority of other careers. My intent was not to be disrespectful of the profession. Bottom line, if I was not coaching, I was required to be at school from 7:05-2:45 each day. Obviously to be a good teacher, there were hours to put in beyond those requirements, but that was all I was contracted for, 7 hours and 40 minutes a day, 185 or so days a year. I personally never really felt like I was underpaid when I was teacher. To add to that, most teachers who have been in the profession for 10+ years with a master's degree (which the majority of teachers these days end up with) do pretty well for themselves.
You are too focused on just the example of delivery service. There is an entire ecosystem of ways to make money today for moderately skilled people that do not involve an 8-10 hour shift at a facility for $10 an hour.
Your post says nothing more than teachers are for some reason a protected class, and are beyond reproach. My wife wouldn’t want to teach any longer due to the rampant spread of toxic liberal idiology.
I just told you. It's stated clearly in post #199. Customer demand is foundational to any successful business. Without it, there is no business. Cost structure and staffing to meet demand are business challenges. They can inhibit growth and impact profits but they rarely destroy a business like a lack of customers does. As such, our economy is growing at a rapid rate today with some businesses being challenged in meeting that demand because of staffing. This will moderate over time and it is not the economic killer that you so ineffectively argue.
Straw man? The Washington Post looked into the question to see if it was accurate that a single woman, with two dependents could recieve in excess of $35,000 per year? What did they find?
Agree here as well. I came from a super blue-collar family as well, and watched my parents struggle to make ends meet. They rarely complained, and seasonal unemployment was the norm during colder months for the old man - as he was a brick mason. It helped to inform my sense of work ethic from an early age, and understanding the importance of need vs. want. My college room/housemates also landed high-paying gigs right out of the gate as well - even though I saw them work hard for it. I wasn't as fortunate. I'm in a great place now, but the journey was interesting. Even though we're in a place to provide our kids with the advantages I didn't have, you can bet your that they'll have to work for that car @ 16 - whether cleaning toilets, mowing lawns, or maybe they'll get lucky writing code (given the current environment). Either way, it won't be handed to them. ?
Thats a dumb question. A person who takes $15.00/hr job deserves it.
Not sure you get the context, but thanks anyway?
How are the women not reentering the workforce making up the lost wages from their previous employment?
Um...yes, I really do get the context. Its a free world. If you own a business, you can offer what you want for pay. It's up the the employee to make the decision to work for that amount or not. I know..liberals are against freedom, unless it's to f anything you want, freedom to have a penis in a girls restroom, freedom for a man to run in a womens race, kill a child out of convenience etc et.
I did not argue that if a person was eligible and took advantage of every social program offered, that it would approach 40K. I’m not sure but will take you word for it. What I said is that it is a straw man because the reality of what you describe in a tiny minority of what welfare recipients actually receive. You argument is based on an extreme and not what is the practical reality.
I’ll handle these one by one. First, lot’s of people are not making up for lost wages. They are living on one income and not two. Without child care expenses and with reduced spending from the pandemic, It is very possible for many people. Your question assumes everybody must replace the income. They do not.
Of course a business can offer whatever they want for pay. That's not the point. I was asking the poster what work he believed was worthy of $15/hour based upon his previous comment. And guess what? He answered it without taking it personally or whining about freedom and penises, or whatever you're mad about right now. ?
I can't believe he didn't blow the silly question off. $15.00 an hour in California is different than $15.00/hour in Ohio.Of course a business can offer whatever they want for pay. That's not the point. I was asking the poster what work he believed was worthy of $15/hour based upon his previous comment. And guess what? He answered it without taking it personally or whining about freedom and penises, or whatever you're mad about right now. ?
So what's your point? Yes, we clearly know that cost of living varies from place to place. Welcome to Economics 101.
Ok. I’ll send you the the economic data at the end of the quarter.
Got to hand it to you, you are fighting hard here to make sure you can earn $15/hour.
Um..you better go back to economics 100 and start over. Apparently you slept through class.
Essentially, he is a pimp. I think we always knew that.