Euclid to hire Quentin Rogers of Richmond Hts.

Will change Euclid and GCC basketball. Hopefully it can revive the school and help with football too. Wish they could clean it up and be the catalyst to clean up the community issues too

As for recruiting, it's just building a team like the big private schools do in every sport every single year
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
Will change Euclid and GCC basketball. Hopefully it can revive the school and help with football too. Wish they could clean it up and be the catalyst to clean up the community issues too

As for recruiting, it's just building a team like the big private schools do in every sport every single year
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Ahh yes leave it to a Mentor supporter to bring up the privates recruiting....
The BIG difference here is this. Euclid and Richmond Hts are both FAILING school districts. And quite frankly they aren't even CLOSE to being passing school districts. So yea, its building a team, but let me know the next time Euclid gets there kids into an Ivy.
 
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Ahh yes leave it to a Mentor supporter to bring up the privates recruiting....
The BIG difference here is this. Euclid and Richmond Hts are both FAILING school districts. And quite frankly they aren't even CLOSE to being passing school districts. So yea, its building a team, but let me know the next time Euclid gets there kids into an Ivy.
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*their not there just fyi.
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Ahh yes leave it to a Mentor supporter to bring up the privates recruiting....
The BIG difference here is this. Euclid and Richmond Hts are both FAILING school districts. And quite frankly they aren't even CLOSE to being passing school districts. So yea, its building a team, but let me know the next time Euclid gets there kids into an Ivy.
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Don't know what being from Mentor has to do with pointing out the obvious. Privates build their teams from all over the place in every single sport. And unlike public open enrollments, they choose their entire student body. Public open enrollment schools have to take everyone

So I'll read privates complaining about this with a laugh
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
Don't know what being from Mentor has to do with pointing out the obvious. Privates build their teams from all over the place in every single sport. And unlike public open enrollments, they choose their entire student body. Public open enrollment schools have to take everyone

So I'll take privates complaining about this with a laugh
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Mentor has an enrollment of about 2,400 kids in the school, yet complains any time an Iggy or Eds beats them. You can take the comments with a laugh, everyone does the same thing when little old Mentor cries a river too.

Private schools attract talented kids from all over areas for many reasons, athletics included. Saying they choose their entire student body is correct, but the student (and parents) most of the times choose that private because they have an opportunity that public schools can't provide in a CLASSROOM
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Mentor has an enrollment of about 2,400 kids in the school, yet complains any time an Iggy or Eds beats them. You can take the comments with a laugh, everyone does the same thing when little old Mentor cries a river too.

Private schools attract talented kids from all over areas for many reasons, athletics included. Saying they choose their entire student body is correct, but the student (and parents) most of the times choose that private because they have an opportunity that public schools can't provide in a CLASSROOM
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Private school guys like you whine whenever people point out the obvious on why you all win so much. It's a lot easier to do building all star teams from all over the place in every sport

Then you guys complain when public's recruit a few kids like you guys have done for many decades. Can take those complaints and shove them. Don't want to hear from the hypocritical privates for publics doing the same thing to catch up

Btw schools like Ignatius and X are bigger boys enrollment than us and recruit from all over in everything. Biggest advantage you can get

Mentors enrollment has actually dropped off quite a bit and we are restricted to kids living in Mentor. Not even close to the same as even the smaller D1 and D2 privates choosing their boys from all over in every sport
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
Private school guys like you whine whenever people point out the obvious on why you all win so much. It's a lot easier to do building all star teams from all over the place in every sport

Then you guys complain when public's recruit a few kids like you guys have done for many decades. Can take those complaints and shove them. Don't want to hear from the hypocritical privates for publics doing the same thing to catch up

Btw schools like Ignatius and X are bigger boys enrollment than us and recruit from all over in everything. Biggest advantage you can get

Mentors enrollment has actually dropped off quite a bit and we are restricted to kids living in Mentor. Not even close to the same as even the smaller D1 and D2 privates choosing their boys from all over in every sport
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Privates - giving a young person a chance to succeed at sports AND in a classroom.

Publics - giving the best athlete an easier path to that scholly. If he doesn't get that, oh well he won us a bunch of games but where does he go now?

And I'm not speaking to Mentor here, Coach Triv and Krazancic do an amazing job getting the student to be well-rounded and prepared for life after senior year. MOST publics do. But sir, if you can't see that this is not the same then I don't know what to tell you
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Privates - giving a young person a chance to succeed at sports AND in a classroom.

Publics - giving the best athlete an easier path to that scholly. If he doesn't get that, oh well he won us a bunch of games but where does he go now?

And I'm not speaking to Mentor here, Coach Triv and Krazancic do an amazing job getting the student to be well-rounded and prepared for life after senior year. MOST publics do. But sir, if you can't see that this is not the same then I don't know what to tell you
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AGAIN I am not talking about 95% of the public school coaches out there. I'm speaking to this guy at Euclid, Sonny Johnson a few others.

If they really wanted to "help the kids" then they should direct them to a place that gives them the best chances to succeed athletically AND academically.
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Privates - giving a young person a chance to succeed at sports AND in a classroom.

Publics - giving the best athlete an easier path to that scholly. If he doesn't get that, oh well he won us a bunch of games but where does he go now?

And I'm not speaking to Mentor here, Coach Triv and Krazancic do an amazing job getting the student to be well-rounded and prepared for life after senior year. MOST publics do. But sir, if you can't see that this is not the same then I don't know what to tell you
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The privates will only take some of these types of kids if they can skirt the academic stuff just enough to play football or basketball and help them win. A lot of the urban publics do help kids succeed that the big time privates wouldn't take ...

Some of them are born into crappy school districts anyways and if the privates won't take them and the closed enrollment publics don't have affordable housing, then these coaches provide value

But let's face it, most of the private guys don't care about the kids education at these places. You guys use that as a excuse when they beat you building all star teams like your schools have done for decades. Benny is losing kids to these types and you are bitter
 
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AGAIN I am not talking about 95% of the public school coaches out there. I'm speaking to this guy at Euclid, Sonny Johnson a few others.

If they really wanted to "help the kids" then they should direct them to a place that gives them the best chances to succeed athletically AND academically.
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It's one thing to be upset Rogers didn't choose Bene but it's a whole other thing to be so upset you bring down Sonny and Urban publics in the process. Especially when Winston already landing transfers 😂
 
NEOfan said:
It's one thing to be upset Rogers didn't choose Bene but it's a whole other thing to be so upset you bring down Sonny and Urban publics in the process. Especially when Winston already landing transfers 😂
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We are thrilled to have Coach Winston Grays. Guaranteed to turn around a program that has been struggling.
 
OSU_FB11 said:
AGAIN I am not talking about 95% of the public school coaches out there. I'm speaking to this guy at Euclid, Sonny Johnson a few others.

If they really wanted to "help the kids" then they should direct them to a place that gives them the best chances to succeed athletically AND academically.
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Aren't kids getting scholarships playing for Rogers? Didn't they have 2 D1 guards and a D2 guard this season? You aren't making sense. Why on earth would any teacher or coach or even janitor direct a kid at one school to another lmao.

So are you saying for example if I work at a inner city Cleveland school, I should direct my students to St Ignatius or Hawken, while said school is paying my bills no less, if I really wanted to "help the kids". Ted Ginn Sr had it all wrong lol. Instead of helping Glenville he should have been directing local kids to US and Hathaway Brown.

And this makes sense to you? Directing kids away from the school that employs me. Even if it's my alma mater.

Only on Yappi can you get this logic.

EDITED- I should have mentioned Sonny Johnson coaches at his alma mater also. Do coaches in other sports like baseball and football usually return to their alma mater to steer kids to other school districts? Just asking lol.
 
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OSU_FB11 said:
AGAIN I am not talking about 95% of the public school coaches out there. I'm speaking to this guy at Euclid, Sonny Johnson a few others.

If they really wanted to "help the kids" then they should direct them to a place that gives them the best chances to succeed athletically AND academically.
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This is a great idea. In fact, I'm going to apply for a head coaching job at an inner ring suburb. I'll make sure to identify all of the top players and work with the private schools to get these kids enrolled there. I might get fired, but doesn't matter. I will have "helped the kids". !
 
That's gotta be top 5 yappi arguments lmao. I also thought private schools had different criteria and didn't accept kids just because of athletic ability so don't the other kids need good coaching too 🤔
 
Unlimited Potential said:
This is a great idea. In fact, I'm going to apply for a head coaching job at an inner ring suburb. I'll make sure to identify all of the top players and work with the private schools to get these kids enrolled there. I might get fired, but doesn't matter. I will have "helped the kids". !
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I have been thinking about volunteering with Heights High baseball. So I can tell them about Ed Choice and steer them to Ignatius or Walsh Jesuit.
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Ahh yes leave it to a Mentor supporter to bring up the privates recruiting....
The BIG difference here is this. Euclid and Richmond Hts are both FAILING school districts. And quite frankly they aren't even CLOSE to being passing school districts. So yea, its building a team, but let me know the next time Euclid gets there kids into an Ivy.
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He's been saying the same thing over and over since he has been on this board. Anytime a thread is started and this comes up, he will be there to remind everyone about it...
 
cdub4 said:
So coaching doesn't matter by yout logic. The players in HS who get scholarships are going to get them anyways.

Coaching doesn't matter in college either I suppose. Not sure why elite HS talent thought Duke and playing for Coach K was beneficial to their careers.

Kyrie Irving and Jayson Tatum would be NBA players anyway. They would have gotten the same experience playing for Bowling Green or Kent as they did Duke.bCoaching, facilities, environment and competitive scheduling... iron sharpening iron...these things don't matter in competitive sports. Got it.

He's right...wrap it up dawg 😂😂
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You could've left my beloved Kent State out of this but exactly
 
eaglepride said:
He's been saying the same thing over and over since he has been on this board. Anytime a thread is started and this comes up, he will be there to remind everyone about it...
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And you will be here on my nuts from now til the end of time trying to deny the truth on how your school wins titles ..

So it's not much different. Yet mine directly applies to the thread commentary . None of you give a damn about random kids education. You just get mad when publics take some kids that you want .

You can get offended all you want but it's clear why privates win all the time. So don't complain when some publics try to recruit like you guys do in every sport. Vouchers and all
 
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Kids that are going to get scholarships anyway play for Rogers.
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So coaching doesn't matter by yout logic. The players in HS who get scholarships are going to get them anyways.



Coaching doesn't matter in college either I suppose. Not sure why elite HS talent thought Duke and playing for Coach K was beneficial to their careers.



Kyrie Irving and Jayson Tatum would be NBA players anyway. They would have gotten the same experience playing for Bowling Green or Kent as they did Duke.bCoaching, facilities, environment and competitive scheduling... iron sharpening iron...these things don't matter in competitive sports. Got it.



He's right...wrap it up dawg 😂😂
 
MentorGrad2002 said:
And you will be here on my nuts from now til the end of time trying to deny the truth on how your school wins titles ..

So it's not much different. Yet mine directly applies to the thread commentary . None of you give a damn about random kids education. You just get mad when publics take some kids that you want .

You can get offended all you want but it's clear why privates win all the time. So don't complain when some publics try to recruit like you guys do in every sport. Vouchers and all
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It isn’t all about talent, it’s about culture. Private schools have parents who are deeply invested in the school their children attend. Parent involvement is very critical and expected in private education. Also, expectations and accountability are high among students, staff and administrators. The expectations for success are high and students /athletes are expected to perform in the classroom and in co or extra curricular. High standards lead to high success. I would agree recruitment of students/athletes does happen but is not the main reason for success. Build the culture, and Mentor has done this as have other successful public’s, and you will see great success. This is the true secret ingredient.
 
OSU_FB11 said:
Mentor has an enrollment of about 2,400 kids in the school, yet complains any time an Iggy or Eds beats them. You can take the comments with a laugh, everyone does the same thing when little old Mentor cries a river too.

Private schools attract talented kids from all over areas for many reasons, athletics included. Saying they choose their entire student body is correct, but the student (and parents) most of the times choose that private because they have an opportunity that public schools can't provide in a CLASSROOM
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Luke Chicone brought his AAU team to Mentor for his senior season and that was ok. Never saw any Mentor fans condemning that or calling out the coach or the school. They’ve also brought other transfers into their basketball program as well. So hypocritical
 
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Football Fan 1 said:
Luke Chicone brought his AAU team to Mentor for his senior season and that was ok. Never saw any Mentor fans condemning that or calling out the coach or the school. They’ve also brought other transfers into their basketball program as well. So hypocritical
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It's been talked about plenty. Was an exception to the rule. You guys can try to act like that makes us equal to private schools or recruiting public's if you want but only a fool would think that's the case

No school has the same enrollment from k-12. Kids come and go. The others highlighted for basketball were a couple sets of brothers whose dads played for Mentor and graduated from there. One set moved to a house in Mentor from one city over. The other set moved back from Europe to the dads hometown. Later went to Lutheran West btw...

Our only future NBA player played his senior year at Montverde academy in Florida. Didn't see any tears shed for us

Anytime a private school guy wants to give me their football starting lineup and basketball roster hometowns for their players , we can do that. Youll lose that battle comparing them to us ...
 
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