D7 Region 27 2024

Has Danville ever played at Sheridan?

Sheridan would portend to be a nightmare for this one. Although, I can just imagine the camaraderie to be had with Falcons and Blue Devils jockeying for parking along Sheridan Road.

What I'll say about that game is... I don't know, man. Eastern may be the one team in this region who can figure out how to tackle a Blue Devil.

P.S. Perry County is a Catholic county. We don't take kindly to you northerners. ;)
Haha. Second oldest catholic church in Ohio is in Danville
 
Haha. Second oldest catholic church in Ohio is in Danville
Is St. Luke the second oldest? Dang!
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Oldest in Ohio, as you know, is in Irish General Country.
 
Heath would be pretty wicked. Fantastic facility.

Unless you're of the mindset that playoff football needs to be closer to someone who misses it. Did I mention White Field already?
I'm just ready for some atmosphere. I'm sure miller will travel, having the best season in school history. Got tired of looking over and seeing 40 visiting fans the last 2 weeks
 
I'm just ready for some atmosphere. I'm sure miller will travel, having the best season in school history. Got tired of seeing 40 visiting fans the last 2 weeks
They traveled decently well to Steubenvegas.

Unrelated note: you know, the color guy for OVSO... (this isn't quite a 1:1 to Notre Dame/Ashley, but you'll get the idea) SCC really hasn't been a good team ever since the admin there pushed Daley out. I give credit to Meek and his staff for the work they've done, but this Crusaders team is a far cry from the SCC of the old R23/R25 years... and an even farther cry from the Bjelac and Bahen era.

hmm... I've mentioned, now, examples of the exurban Catholics within the Diocese of Columbus(+Steubenville, as the DoC is going to assume the DoS via a merge) when it comes to the "worst" that can happen when Non-Ball Knowers screw with what's good.

PND -> already discussed

SCC was bad for a long time after Daley's departure. Mediocre-ish, kinda trending better under the current regime but still not very physical

TCC was unwinnable and Casey was who kept it alive as long as he could.

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"Now why is this being brought up?" Any other possible schools similar to those three within the R27 footprint who could find themselves screwing everything up?
 
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They traveled decently well to Steubenvegas.

Unrelated note: you know, the color guy for OVSO... (this isn't quite a 1:1 to Notre Dame/Ashley, but you'll get the idea) SCC really hasn't been a good team ever since the admin there pushed Daley out. I give credit to Meek and his staff for the work they've done, but this Crusaders team is a far cry from the SCC of the old R23/R25 years... and an even farther cry from the Bjelac and Bahen era.

hmm... I've mentioned, now, examples of the exurban Catholics within the Diocese of Columbus(+Steubenville, as the DoC is going to assume the DoS via a merge) when it comes to the "worst" that can happen when Non-Ball Knowers screw with what's good.

PND -> already discussed

SCC was bad for a long time after Daley's departure. Mediocre-ish, kinda trending better under the current regime but still not very physical

TCC was unwinnable and Casey was who kept it alive as long as he could.

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"Now why is this being brought up?" Any other possible schools similar to those three within the R27 footprint who could find themselves screwing everything up?
Newark Catholic?
 
Newark Catholic?
definitely not NC (although I can see where your head was, there.)

Their situation and the reason why they're down is different, and JMO I think they are impermeable from the risk of Non-Ball Knowers screwing it up.
 
Yeah I have no intel on Newark Catholic. Hopefully, Windhorst tells us who it is

Rosecrans ?
For the record, I added some clarifying information re: NC in the above reply.

Rosecrans is a very good guess, but they are not in R27! I know, I know, I was shocked too!
 
That was certainly an entertaining right hook, for sure! An unexpected bit of levity has cleansed the soul of this thread.
Much like NC, I believe Tigertown is immune to non-ball knowers messing it up (long term). Yes, they’re a mess right now. However, the talent is there for the future. Junior high level, maybe even grades below that. I am not 100% about football, but their bball and baseball teams will be solid in a few years.

I think most of us Valley people assume they’ll figure it out and won’t be down long term. I think this was just an overdue dip in collective talent. I could be wrong. I’m definitely the last person rooting for a resurgence for them lol.
 
Much like NC, I believe Tigertown is immune to non-ball knowers messing it up (long term). Yes, they’re a mess right now. However, the talent is there for the future. Junior high level, maybe even grades below that. I am not 100% about football, but their bball and baseball teams will be solid in a few years.

I think most of us Valley people assume they’ll figure it out and won’t be down long term. I think this was just an overdue dip in collective talent. I could be wrong. I’m definitely the last person rooting for a resurgence for them lol.
It is weird that both River and Shadyside are down the way that they were this year. Weird, and, of course... ironic.

I guess the talent and numbers has hit a waning period on that portion of Route 7.

To your point, though on Tigertown... I believe you're right on them. Their neighbors to the north, however? It seems like that program is stuck in the mud. Ever since the saga of them not being able to keep Jose, and everything that has since followed. Some communities seem to really struggle with talent acquisition for jobs like that, and I think that may be an apt description for Bellaire.

Other communities, like those susceptible to bad politics and even worse decision-making, inevitably screw up needlessly the talent retention. The talent that should be retained, sadly enough, are the ones who put everything into the program and had the program on its best footing imaginable.
 
It is weird that both River and Shadyside are down the way that they were this year. Weird, and, of course... ironic.

I guess the talent and numbers has hit a waning period on that portion of Route 7.

To your point, though on Tigertown... I believe you're right on them. Their neighbors to the north, however? It seems like that program is stuck in the mud. Ever since the saga of them not being able to keep Jose, and everything that has since followed. Some communities seem to really struggle with talent acquisition for jobs like that, and I think that may be an apt description for Bellaire.

Other communities, like those susceptible to bad politics and even worse decision-making, inevitably screw up needlessly the talent retention. The talent that should be retained, sadly enough, are the ones who put everything into the program and had the program on its best footing imaginable.
I’m very pro-Bellaire. The only school I root for in Belmont County, other than my own, of course. Stuck in the mud is a perfect way to describe them. Outside of a good passing offense about 10 years ago (Jose was the coach), they’ve been stuck in the mud with an offense in slow motion since 2006. That’s the last time they were a legit contender to win a state title. Much like Shadyside, they have some talent in the lower levels (kids of former Big Reds stars). However, not sure it will translate into success on the football field. I sure hope it does.
 
When Kennedy went through the self-inflicted disaster after three straight Regional titles and two trips to Canton, the impact of the disaster lingered for a long time. Despite the current winning 18 months after the fact... there's a difference between the 'K', its current facsimile and 'yinz. [Second person voice, for a reason.] There's a reason this thread has 13k views.

Comes down to Knowing Ball, and Knowing the Ball Schools Like You are bound to. Bound to, for a reason. Because there isn't another option. What's behind that second door, I can already tell ya -- it's not something glamorous, or worthwhile. It's not dignified, it's not in any way shape or form something the kids should be forced to inherit. And that's before the consequences come home to roost online.

The Bob Ashley metaphor might fall on deaf ears to Non-Ball Knowers. It wouldn't, though, if you came to realize that school in Portsmouth didn't always have a football coach who tries to make his stamp by shooting for the endzone up 29 with :17 seconds left. How's the Titans doing these days in the Round of 32 under him? Outscored 110-0 in two attempts.

Don't worry about the bolded, though, because it'd become apparent very quick that the least of 'yinz problems would be with me. Easy and convenient to think that wouldn't be the case, but, just as another a free bit of advice... thinking otherwise would be a delusional pretext for the same exact mistake you'd be at risk of making just like almost everyone else 'around you' recently have.

While it'd be easy to assume that repeating the mistakes of schools similar to your composite would, somehow, not matter in the grand scheme of things, that "life will go on", that its something to "move on from", that "it shouldn't be a big deal"... you don't get to choose the terms of the fallout, the blowback, the rapid diminishing of support, let alone the havoc to be wreaked offline. Kennedy didn't get to choose those terms, neither did PND, neither did SCC.

I believe that's an adequate shot across the bow. Stay the course, let the program flourish as best as it can through the means of playing the ball it's been meant to all along. Football's supposed to be hard. You win with details, physicality, strength, and grit. You win with who you have, because they represent the best of what you are,. You win with who you have by sticking to what works. You win with who you have by being a bulwark protecting the program's best interests, which by extension is the school's best interests.

It's a very simple message. I've pointed out the canaries in the coal mine for you to observe, because they didn't come back out. For a reason. The best course is the current course.
 
I really think this is the first year Danville is gonna make their maiden voyage to Canton. I'm kind of torn between which team I root for. CV or Danville? Why not both? Not a hunch to Eastern or Miller, both having fantastic seasons (I'll have my crow now for the Eastern and Miller comments).

Sadly, though, there is disparity in the region. Danville then everyone else. Whoever reads this might be asking themselves, "didn't he say Trimble and Danville the top 2 all year?" I did. Here's why:

Historically, in Region 27, Trimble and Danville are usually the top teams (whenever Shadyside and NC are down). Now, I'm biased of course, you could've asked me in 2022 when we was 3-7 and I would've told you in Region 23 we was one of the top teams. It's just how I am. *get to the point already*

With NC, River, and Shadyside so down, it's kind of hard to say that Trimble and Danville aren't the top 2 teams in the region from a quick glance. Why? 2 towns that embody football like no other, great traditions, one team has a legendary coach, the other is making his way to become a legend.

What is fun about this year though, a new team is going to get to learn week 14 football. (no disrespect to Miller once again, Danville is just that good. I am pulling for the Falcons, though.) A community is going to experience something that a lot of communities don't. That, itself is awesome.

Good luck to the 4 R27 teams that remain this Friday night. To the 3 that have never been there before, take it all in. Live in the moment. No matter what the result is Friday, all 3 schools that whomever reads this post is from will make history.
 
I really think this is the first year Danville is gonna make their maiden voyage to Canton. I'm kind of torn between which team I root for. CV or Danville? Why not both? Not a hunch to Eastern or Miller, both having fantastic seasons (I'll have my crow now for the Eastern and Miller comments).

Sadly, though, there is disparity in the region. Danville then everyone else. Whoever reads this might be asking themselves, "didn't he say Trimble and Danville the top 2 all year?" I did. Here's why:

Historically, in Region 27, Trimble and Danville are usually the top teams (whenever Shadyside and NC are down). Now, I'm biased of course, you could've asked me in 2022 when we was 3-7 and I would've told you in Region 23 we was one of the top teams. It's just how I am. *get to the point already*

With NC, River, and Shadyside so down, it's kind of hard to say that Trimble and Danville aren't the top 2 teams in the region from a quick glance. Why? 2 towns that embody football like no other, great traditions, one team has a legendary coach, the other is making his way to become a legend.

What is fun about this year though, a new team is going to get to learn week 14 football. (no disrespect to Miller once again, Danville is just that good. I am pulling for the Falcons, though.) A community is going to experience something that a lot of communities don't. That, itself is awesome.

Good luck to the 4 R27 teams that remain this Friday night. To the 3 that have never been there before, take it all in. Live in the moment. No matter what the result is Friday, all 3 schools that whomever reads this post is from will make history.
Very good post.

I admit that I can get redundant on this matter, but I'll punctuate some of these points for the audience.

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With NC, River, and Shadyside so down, it's kind of hard to say that Trimble and Danville aren't the top 2 teams in the region from a quick glance. Why?
They're also, bluntly, the two most consistent programs when it comes to fielding a good team along with the fact their schedules have long been above the rest of the pack.

Why does that matter? Let me preface by saying I'm an R27 guy at heart. Going back to the days when it was the old Region 23 in the previous six division playoff model. Hopefully that clues in on the reliable narrator, here.

To have the level of depth, to have the consistency in numbers, to have everything part-and-parcel that results in insulation from the lowest depths of 'down years', there's really only three programs in R27 that have it -- Danville, Trimble, and NC. Just so we're all on the same page, the only team(s) that would bat better than 1-9 on NC's schedule would be Danville and possibly Trimble.

To have that depth and consistency, paired to a generally challenging schedule, that sets you pretty fair for success in playoffs.

River and Shadyside are pretty firmly in that second-tier on level of program. They just happen to be on bad waning periods currently, and in Shadyside's case it's been a very turbulent last three years along with that wane in talent & numbers.

With that in mind, it is good for the state of Region 27 that the opportunity exists for those 'remainder of the regional field' teams to have meaningful November's. I'll follow that up below this other astute @trimblefootball observation

trimblefootball said:
What is fun about this year though, a new team is going to get to learn week 14 football. (no disrespect to Miller once again, Danville is just that good. I am pulling for the Falcons, though.) A community is going to experience something that a lot of communities don't. That, itself is awesome.
Before this November, two of this year's four R27 semifinalists had never won a playoff game before. Outside of Danville, for obvious reasons, the fourth team only had one playoff win -- and they also happen to be the most recently created program (Eastern.)

Frankly, I was pulling for a Danville/SCC and Trimble/South Gallia week 13. Namely because I did think and feel those were the four best teams in R27, because that's primarily what 15 years of watching playoff ball in this region tells me would have happened. And I'm not saying that from the motivation to posture, because I also happened to pick those teams to all win this week in the Yappi Challenge. Went 0/2 picking South Gallia to beat Eastern, pretty sure I was the only one out of 280 players statewide to pick them either time -- it's kind of biting me in the behind now (I'm only ahead of second place by three games now.) So, I'm 0-4 in the week 12 games involving Miller, Eastern, and CV + SG/Eastern regular season and fighting to maintain my spot at the top now more than ever.

But, the trade-off on being wrong there does mean there's good to be had for others. I'd say that's a pretty fair trade, all in all. More cups getting filled in the process, and it's refreshing to see pessimism from the man in the mirror get defeated.

Especially relevant is the fact Miller won a Round of 32 game. I'd like to think that can send a message that physical, intense ground game is a winning formula for their brothers-in-arms in the MSL-Cardinal, which I spent a lot of time following (probably too much in retrospect.) 'Cause, like I said upthread, first Round of 32 win for that league since '06.

It will be good for those three teams to get a feel for what the 'next step' looks like. It's also a great opportunity for those programs to finally meet what happens when you commit to your goals, what you want to do, etc. Maybe it won't be immediately obvious after next Friday, but it will be obvious how big the moment -- with a firm appreciation for the opportunity of making it this far -- is for them.
 
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To have the level of depth, to have the consistency in numbers, to have everything part-and-parcel that results in insulation from the lowest depths of 'down years', there's really only three programs in R27 that have it -- Danville, Trimble, and NC. Just so we're all on the same page, the only team(s) that would bat better than 1-9 on NC's schedule would be Danville and possibly Trimble.
It helps having a strong tradition to back up programs. Even in down years for teams. It's rare air when you can't put NC as a playoff team. Especially in the 16 team format. Had NC made the playoffs at 1-9 this year, I think that being there would've propelled them to at least one playoff victory. Tradition helps, of course. Winning=Tradition. Tradition=Winning when it matters. Few teams have a tradition like Danville, Trimble, NC and Shadyside in R27. And it's not to say they aren't working towards one, neither. Every program is gonna take humps along the way. It's just another chapter in the book.

Frankly, I was pulling for a Danville/SCC and Trimble/South Gallia week 13.
In a perfect world, this could've happened. As an avid supporter of the Tomcats, it is sad that we are home in week 13. We expect to compete for the region every year. No matter what. At the same time though, it is nice to see new teams get a shot. Although many of us in Glouster wish we was competing against one of the newcomers in week 13.

We've been fortunate to have been not hit as hard with some waning years. Going 22 years before having a losing season is a feat in itself. Most schools would be happy to go 5 seasons without one.

That brings me to my next point. Will Trimble be back to the Trimble of the 2010s? That, I don't know yet. It's certainly in our DNA, but there's a point of uncertainty and that's where I see it is right now.

What I want to confidently say is. One year, who knows when. The Tomcats will finally have that elusive state title. It may come with Coach Faires at the helm, or someone else. But, I'm confident enough to say that one day the Tomcats will sit atop of the mountain with elite company.

The work for the 2025 season starts Monday for those who return. It'll all be here before we can realize it.
 
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Hello gents thought I'd snag me a username and maybe have a bit of conversation with these teams that have been overlooked. Danville obviously came in as the clear favorite in the region but to say Trimble deserved 2nd billing based on history simply doesn't work. Looking at Trimble's body of work the last 3 years took them out of this category. As for Miller and SCC game I was 100% with Miller as I have seen them play in person and seen multiple games of SCC and Miller in my mind was just more athletic in terms of the QB and RB position. Plus, SCC style played right into what Miller can handle. As for Eastern the team is 100% legit and win or lose against CV they've done something that hasn't been done in their short history. People wanted to knock the Eastern schedule but that was put into place knowing how much they were losing from last year's team. Which is why they're trying to fix that as much as possible for next season with what I think was 3 or 4 open dates due to teams dropping them.

I do have to say the obsession with it getting changed to private is hilarious and I haven't figured that out yet. Also, the well it's not fair for those paying advertising is pretty funny, the advertisements are paid for when the game is live, and they get full use of that it's not paid with the expectation that people can watch the replays. Paid for the season kind of how it works.

As some have mentioned while this region obviously isn't the strongest it's really great to see new faces in new places at this point in the playoffs instead of the same old, same old. Love the chatter for this region as SEOP doesn't give those DVII schools a lot of love that's for sure. As for the semi-finals game Danville is simply too much for Miller but this is the first time Miller has won a playoff game in school history, and you have to love they're a win away from the regional championship game. CV I have seen a little bit from them but will be focusing on that over the next couple days to learn more about them. I know the QB makes the whole thing go and really, I think this is a great matchup for Eastern now will it play out like that we'll find out, but the team, school and community couldn't be happier and it's amazing to see the amount of people that are behind these kids and taking care of them every week.
 
I am going to stress again, I am the last person to ever root for Shadyside. I legit can’t stand to look at their colors. However, in ranking the success of the D6 R23/new R27 over the past 25 years, Shadyside is right behind Newark Catholic. My animosity for the Tigers does not distort the truth for what it is. 3 regional titles, 2 state runners up and a slew of regional runner ups. Missed the playoffs maybe once since 2000? That was stability. I think the last 3 years has created some recency bias against the Tigers.

Edit: I’m going to edit this after reviewing Four Seasons football. I did not realize Trimble had two state runners up. Not sure if that was D6 or D7 at the time. I’ve followed Ohio HS football since 1995, but those good Trimble seasons, I was more out of touch (starting a family, career, didn’t have as much time for HS football as I do now) Trimble was not on my radar back then, but I see the success. I knew Danville from their early 2000’s bouts with the Tigers and I know their tradition. Still, I would keep Danville and Trimble a 3/4 in this 25 year period.
 
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The Dock, I would love an expose on some topics such as, what happened to Parkersburg Catholic’s football program, the rise and fall of Cardinal Mooney, the rise, fall, then meteoric rise of Youngstown Ursuline. How the school in downtown Y-Town can remain dominant while the Cards can’t get it together.

Edit:add Amanda-Clearcreek-what happened there ?
 
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Edit: I’m going to edit this after reviewing Four Seasons football. I did not realize Trimble had two state runners up. Not sure if that was D6 or D7 at the time. I’ve followed Ohio HS football since 1995, but those good Trimble seasons, I was more out of touch (starting a family, career, didn’t have as much time for HS football as I do now) Trimble was not on my radar back then, but I see the success. I knew Danville from their early 2000’s bouts with the Tigers and I know their tradition. Still, I would keep Danville and Trimble a 3/4 in this 25 year period.
Both came in D7. First year it was in existence in 2013 we lost to ML 33-0. 2018 was a loss to McComb 28-3.
 
Danville obviously came in as the clear favorite in the region but to say Trimble deserved 2nd billing based on history simply doesn't work. Looking at Trimble's body of work the last 3 years took them out of this category.
If you read some of my previous posts, you'll see why I said that. Know, was it right to say that? I doubt it. But, obviously I'm a bit biased so I'm gonna think we are one of the top teams in the region. Great post, though. I do love seeing new blood get to experience week 13.
 
I am going to stress again, I am the last person to ever root for Shadyside. I legit can’t stand to look at their colors. However, in ranking the success of the D6 R23/new R27 over the past 25 years, Shadyside is right behind Newark Catholic. My animosity for the Tigers does not distort the truth for what it is. 3 regional titles, 2 state runners up and a slew of regional runner ups. Missed the playoffs maybe once since 2000? That was stability. I think the last 3 years has created some recency bias against the Tigers.

Edit: I’m going to edit this after reviewing Four Seasons football. I did not realize Trimble had two state runners up. Not sure if that was D6 or D7 at the time. I’ve followed Ohio HS football since 1995, but those good Trimble seasons, I was more out of touch (starting a family, career, didn’t have as much time for HS football as I do now) Trimble was not on my radar back then, but I see the success. I knew Danville from their early 2000’s bouts with the Tigers and I know their tradition. Still, I would keep Danville and Trimble a 3/4 in this 25 year period.
Going to disagree about Danville not being on Shadyside’s level. Danville has won this region 4X since ‘99 and had they been in this region instead of up north they’d have at least 2 more regional titles, and possibly 3. If they win the region the again as predicted that gives them 5 titles, with 4 runner ups in here, with a possible 2-3 trips here. That means they’ve been one of the top 2 teams in here 12 times out of 25 years.
 
The Dock, I would love an expose on some topics such as, what happened to Parkersburg Catholic’s football program, the rise and fall of Cardinal Mooney, the rise, fall, then meteoric rise of Youngstown Ursuline. How the school in downtown Y-Town can remain dominant while the Cards can’t get it together.

Edit:add Amanda-Clearcreek-what happened there ?
I’m pretty sure the football programs P. Cath, just like Clarksburg Notre Dame, are simple casualties of low enrollment. Could be worse: could have worse numbers like what led to the closure of Donahue and the former St John Central.

Location, location, location… Cards are in a bad neighborhood. Hard to overcome the reputation of the neighborhood.

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Amanda — collision course of ‘08 recession + hefty pay-to-play around the same time. Lingered for years. Tbh, that league is simply not good. *Not good anymore.
 
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Hello gents thought I'd snag me a username and maybe have a bit of conversation with these teams that have been overlooked. Danville obviously came in as the clear favorite in the region but to say Trimble deserved 2nd billing based on history simply doesn't work. Looking at Trimble's body of work the last 3 years took them out of this category.
Alright, but… anyone else in R27 have a better body of work there? 😵‍💫
 
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