Covid 19 Vaccine - Apparent Side Effects ? and was it worth it ?

Who was in charge of the CDC’s response and recommendations regarding COVID-19?

Do you understand why that’s an important question?
Trump appointed Robert Redfield to head the CDC. He was his point man in charge. Later in early 2020, Trump put together a Covid Task Force that included his hand picked CDC Director as well as others. You can read about them here:

 
No I blame the Dems for doubling down on what the Pubs did after much more was know and understood about the virus and the harm we were doing to our nation that made no sense in regards to the real dangers of covid.
Who are you talking about? Dems like DeWine?
 
Do you fail to understand what you read on Yappi on purpose? Those of us who slowly (and in some cases not so slowly) came around to seeing just how badly they were screwing up the covid response DID NOT spare the Republicans in charge, both in Ohio and on a national stage.

* Trump's biggest screw up his first term was his mishandling of covid. When it became clear that Fauci & Birx were part of a Public Health gang refusing to reopen the country by Easter, as Trump wanted, he should have fired them both and replaced them with some of the real medical health public policy experts that would later sign the Great Barrington Declaration. I've always thought that Trump being a germophobe made him susceptible to the scare mongering that passed for public health policy by Birx & Fauci. But in the end Trump owns some of this.

* If you don't remember the anger and mockery directed by conservatives at DeWine & Acton over their handling of covid you need to boost your Super Beets memory enhancing brain supplements. Remember the county covid coloring code system? Has a public health bureaucracy working in lockstep with politicians ever come up with some something as stupid and useless as that?

* But as weak as DeWine was at the start of covid thank goodness we live in a red state here in Ohio. Because in the end we stopped the insanity of school closings and other damaging mitigation efforts before a lot of other states did. Because even on his dumbest day, DeWine is an Einstein compared to the democrat governors of Michigan, NY, California & New Jersey. In the end PARTY did matter.

* And to be fair to Trump, DeWine and other republicans/conservatives who supported the crazy ideas of lock downs they at least had the excuse of ignorance. Covid was scary in the late winter/early spring of 2020. But what excuse do democrats have for tripling down on the dumb stuff some republicans initiated.

* The FACT is that democrats expanded the bad things some republicans embraced early on even adding new and more damaging public policies to the mix. From their refusal to reopen schools in a timely fashion, to their distortion of the science to their embrace of an unproven vaccine and their support for highly divisive mandates involving that vaccine the democrats made matters worse - MUCH WORSE.
BS, You guys trashed DeWine, but not the National response. You guys were preaching a local response. Local health departments. An overwhelming majority of you were. It needed a national response and it got a joke.

No contact tracing. None of the pandemic 101 things that should have been done were. That is on the Trump administration. PERIOD. Sop with the excuses.
 
Will go nowhere. They have a multitude of jabs they are mandated to take. They would have taken if Republican was president. We don't need cowards and people that cannot follow orders in the Military.

Plenty of jobs for them in the civilian world. My wife has flu shot and other mandated shots she must take every year. No crying allowed. We will be just fine without these people in the military.
 
You can stop right there. If you accept what happened because you believe it was legal, I can't help you.

You were lied to, and it was with purpose. You were told going to school or even church was going to kill people. You fell for that, and now you forgive yourself for playing along because you don't believe it was illegal. With your obedience training complete you may go in peace, I guess.

Good luck with that.
You are a complete joke … upset because politicians lie 😂😂😂😂😂😂 … Trump is the biggest lier of all time … yet you still bow down to your King Donny … what a joke … can’t believe you can even say this with a straight face … you have been so brainwashed by the far right or propaganda
 
BTW. His task force released the initial vax rollout schedule and recommendations. It included the recommendation that all people over 16 years old vaccinate. I have posted this guidance but lying MAGAs on Yappi just ignore it and blame Biden like the lying POS’s they are. Here is the specific guidance for all people over 16 years old once the most vulnerable had enough vaccination for Phase 1a,b,c,:

Phase 2​

Phase 2 includes all other persons aged ≥16 years not already recommended for vaccination in Phases 1a, 1b, or 1c. Currently, in accordance with recommended age and conditions of use (1), any authorized COVID-19 vaccine may be used. ACIP is closely monitoring clinical trials in children and adolescents and will consider recommendations for use when a COVID-19 vaccine is authorized for use in persons aged <16 years.
 
BTW. His task force released the initial vax rollout schedule and recommendations. It included the recommendation that all people over 16 years old vaccinate. I have posted this guidance but lying MAGAs on Yappi just ignore it and blame Biden like the lying POS’s they are. Here is the specific guidance for all people over 16 years old once the most vulnerable had enough vaccination for Phase 1a,b,c,:

Phase 2​

Phase 2 includes all other persons aged ≥16 years not already recommended for vaccination in Phases 1a, 1b, or 1c. Currently, in accordance with recommended age and conditions of use (1), any authorized COVID-19 vaccine may be used. ACIP is closely monitoring clinical trials in children and adolescents and will consider recommendations for use when a COVID-19 vaccine is authorized for use in persons aged <16 years.
Now, why would Trump put together a task force of all Liberals and people against him? It's like a who's who of Democrats!
 
Will go nowhere. They have a multitude of jabs they are mandated to take. They would have taken if Republican was president. We don't need cowards and people that cannot follow orders in the Military.

Plenty of jobs for them in the civilian world. My wife has flu shot and other mandated shots she must take every year. No crying allowed. We will be just fine without these people in the military.
Then why is the military giving them an invite to come back and restart their military careers?
 
Then why is the military giving them an invite to come back and restart their military careers?
Don't know and don't care. They have proven themselves unfit for duty. Not able or willing put duty before themselves which is required in the military. Does the military health system now have the choice to not treat them since they have proven to not listen to medical advice or follow direct orders? They made a choice and they should have to live with that choice. Military leadership should be ashamed for letting them back in.

Oh wait. My bad wasn't it a bill passed by congress that is letting them back in? Not a good thing and something I disagree with Biden on. People make choices and have to stand by them. Why should we be so compassionate towards these people just because others were responsible enough to get the vaccine so now these people don't?
 
Don't know and don't care. They have proven themselves unfit for duty. Not able or willing put duty before themselves which is required in the military. Does the military health system now have the choice to not treat them since they have proven to not listen to medical advice or follow direct orders? They made a choice and they should have to live with that choice. Military leadership should be ashamed for letting them back in.
You care to be informed?
 
You care to be informed?
They are allowed back because the threat of Covid has been lessened to a degree that they don't need to be vaccinated. Others did their duty and others made the sacrifices. They did not and should not benefit from their choice to leave the military. They made the choice. Have strength in your convictions and stay out of the military and move on. The military is much stronger without them.
 
Don't know and don't care. They have proven themselves unfit for duty. Not able or willing put duty before themselves which is required in the military. Does the military health system now have the choice to not treat them since they have proven to not listen to medical advice or follow direct orders? They made a choice and they should have to live with that choice. Military leadership should be ashamed for letting them back in.

Oh wait. My bad wasn't it a bill passed by congress that is letting them back in? Not a good thing and something I disagree with Biden on. People make choices and have to stand by them. Why should we be so compassionate towards these people just because others were responsible enough to get the vaccine so now these people don't?
Responsible to get the vaccine? Being forced is responsible? Ok booster boy.
 
They are allowed back because the threat of Covid has been lessened to a degree that they don't need to be vaccinated. Others did their duty and others made the sacrifices. They did not and should not benefit from their choice to leave the military. They made the choice. Have strength in your convictions and stay out of the military and move on. The military is much stronger without them.
Start with high dsDNA and HLA-b27-positive
 
Then why is the military giving them an invite to come back and restart their military careers?
Multiple reasons but a biggie is that the current variants appear to be less deadly and combined with a more broadly vaccinated population, the threat is less.

When you use facts and sound rationale, the reasoning behind decisions gets easier to understand. You should really make an effort in that area.
 
NOT TRUMP … MANY(MOST) PEOPLE VOTED FOR …. NOT TRUMP … I know it is hard for you to believe given your love for the man … but it is true … Biden didn’t need to do much other than not be Trump … people voting for NOT TRUMP didn’t need to go to pep rallies.

So if Trump got a record number of votes and Biden got a record number of votes … how come we can only conclude that Biden cheated and not Trump … wouldn’t it be commonsense that both cheated?
81M votes were cast for FJB.

If you actually believe 81M voters PERSONALLY supported Dementia Joe in that election, you're a bigger idiot than I thought. This was of course all made possible by Covid election rule changes.

The fact remains that in NONE of the critical areas, in precincts under Democrat control, NO ONE has performed signature or residency audits of the 2020 election. All they have done is count, recount, and recount again the same bogus ballots.
 
I don’t get how you don’t understand that the number of people at their rallies makes no difference … the last two elections were not about who people wanted to be their President as much as it was about who they didn’t want … 2016 they didn’t want Hillary … 2020 they didn’t want Trump … it is that simple.

To me your version of “common sense“ needs people to believe something based on pure speculation … not facts … yes, the election in 2020 was unique … but that because we had a bunch of unique circumstances … COVID, elections made easier to vote, and an extremely polarizing candidate … all this lead to a historic number of people voting … to me this make sense (common sense) … I don’t buy all the so called conspiracy theories thrown out by King Donny … the reasons he lost has changed at least 20 times now … each conspiracy is based on only half truths … when looked into closely, they don’t hold up.

As far as me, I will just tell you this … I grew up in a Republican household, my first President I voted for was Ronald Reagan, my voting record is still about 50/50 Democratic/Republican … mostly Republican locally & Democratic nationally … I still believe in a balanced budget, just differ on how to get their … I don’t believe in abortion but do remember what it was like when they were banned and do not want to go back to that … still wish we could have a compromise on it … I grew apart from the Republicans nationally because I felt they cared about themselves and big business more than doing what was right for all … yea, I know the D’s go too far … can’t stand Bernie Sanders … but still think we should try to help people when in need (with limits) … I think Trump is the prime example of everything wrong with this country … a complete narcissist who truly only care about himself … and only cares about others based off how much they can help him … so there you go, how I think.
Sorry joe, but most people whom I can respect would not really consider that pile^ "thinking"
 
You can stop right there. If you accept what happened because you believe it was legal, I can't help you.

You were lied to, and it was with purpose. You were told going to school or even church was going to kill people. You fell for that, and now you forgive yourself for playing along because you don't believe it was illegal. With your obedience training complete you may go in peace, I guess.

Good luck with that.
That would be compelling, for a normal person. Useful idiots, not so much.
 
Not everything is conspiracy. Very few things are. Stop letting that control your thinking. Follow the money with the Republican Party if you want to. That might be an eye opener.
It's very simple. Shared or common goals, values, and desires can create the illusion of conspiracy. Here's the most famous example - "the vast right wing conspiracy"

 
It’s your problem if you listened. None if that makes any difference in an election. The flow of information can never be controlled. If it could, the huge pile of BS that is this website would not exist.

What? The problem is Biden voters listened, dope.

When the state is issuing the disinformation, it's a problem.

Please make a note of this.
 
It would still be more of a Not Trump vote than a For Biden
That would still be a flaming idiot 🤷‍♂️

A distinction without a difference, at this point. It's very rare for an incumbent POTUS to have an opponent with a Presidential "track record", as Trump does.

If you choose a Democrat over Trump at this point, you really don't care about America.
 
BS, You guys trashed DeWine, but not the National response. You guys were preaching a local response. Local health departments. An overwhelming majority of you were. It needed a national response and it got a joke.
You are a joke.

Thank God that the Republican-run Ohio legislature finally put li'l Mike in his place.

No contact tracing. None of the pandemic 101 things that should have been done were. That is on the Trump administration. PERIOD. Sop with the excuses.
None of that crap was needed. You'd realize that if you weren't such a tool that you confined yourself to approved Dem reading material. You are a fool.
 
Trump/admin Downplayed the danger and sidelining experts.

The danger should have been downplayed since it was overhyped. More state "experts should have been sidelined. They are liars.

Testing Failure, Inadequate tracing, isolating and quarantines

Subterfuge.

, Confusing mask guidance, Decentralized response.

Masking was worthless except for your obedience training.

Key was the Decentralized response. "The U.S. government’s structure meant that much of the pandemic response was left up to state and local leaders.

As it should have been.

In the absence of a strong national strategy, states implemented a patchwork of largely uncoordinated policies that did not effectively suppress the spread of the virus. This caused sudden, massive spikes of infections in many local outbreaks, placing enormous strain on health care systems and leaving no region untouched by the disease."

Lie.

Not everything we were told was a lie. That is a lie. You are good at that.

What else you got? All that is bullchit.
 
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