ProV1
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They are actually giving it to him. It transfers to him after his term.
Chronicles Of The Trump-Vance Administration
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cabezadecaballo
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Considering that they threw Hamas out a month ago, I am more concerned about the plane being compromised for bugs or bombs, like a Hezbollah pager.
“President Vance”….. has a nice ring to it
BGFalcons82
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There's more to this story then you're saying. I would expect this kind of drive by posting from Happy or ProV but sought you were better.
Since Bessent said they weren't detailing the agreement until tomorrow what else did these lizards expect?
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- Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said that U.S.-China trade talks in Geneva over the weekend were “productive.”
- He said he would give more details in a complete briefing on Monday morning.
- Bessent added that President Donald Trump is “fully informed” about the discussions.
Cubsandtigers
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Boeing’s failures on the new Air Force one are not exactly a secret? The fact that despite failure after failure they were given the sixth gen fighter contract is well the most Washington thing ever.
The issue here is that outside of being old there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with Air Force One or Two. There isn’t a reason we need a new plane prior to the new one’s arrival.
Cubsandtigers
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Let me give you a sneak peak.
We are creating a commission of some sort where a trade deal that may or may not ever be finished gets allegedly will be completed. Both sides will back down to some extent on tariffs and China will loosen rare earth restrictions on us in exchange for a commodity to be determined at a later date.
cabezadecaballo
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Omega
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Not enforceable except for maybe negotiating prices on purchases by Medicare and Medicaid. I see this as more of a PR effort so Trump can say he tried.
The US does need to stop subsidizing drug prices in other countries. An EO just won't get it done.
BGFalcons82
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Ok. But who is going to oppose lower drug prices in order to stop the process?
Remember during 2024 when the Ds all screamed about Biden lowering insulin costs and Trump didn’t?
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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Boeing may have gotten the sixth generation fighter simply because they played to Trumps vanity and named it the F-47.
Yeah, I'm sure that you believe that.
On the whole, a lot of good news and winning for the president and country this morning.
Somehow, he generally brings order and good out of chaos - after causing the chaos. I'd prefer to avoid the chaos, but it seems to be part of the process when he is involved. Lol
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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I would hope that is not the reason but is Trump narcissistic enough to allow that to be the deciding factor? Boeing is years behind & millions over budget in delivering a new Air Force One. Granted some of this could be due to constant changes, I do not know. The F-35 has had a lot of production challenges and its worse trait is the turn around time between flights.
You see winning, I see a lot of ineptness with the people Trump choose & is choosing: RFK Jr is a kook, Pete is proving to be inept, the FBI guy is being accused of not being present and the recent nomination of the drunk lady from Fox. Little Marco is the only competent person. It’s a reality clown show and it’s 100% what America voted for and is getting.
I think you are an intelligent person with good intentions.
But I say this, and I am serious - that rant ^ is the definition of TDS.
The thing that gives it away is a lack of balance. I didn't like Barak Obama - his worldview, most of his decisions, or the direction he took the country in, particulary in the area of race relations. But he had some personal traits I admired and he did some good things.
When you find yourself in a situation where you can't find one good thing about someone that 80 million people voted for, can't see one good thing he is doing, and have to exaggerate every perceived and real failure, that's a dysfunctional mind on how it thinks about that person! It's so obvious!
Don't do that! There is plenty of room to criticize and oppose a political leader without allowing your mind to descend into that kind of dissonance. When you do have a legitimate point of criticism, it gets diminished because of the lack of credibility that comes from a steady stream of this kind of unbalanced ranting! FWIW
Trump gets a palace in the sky from the family who funds Hamas.
ABC News reports this is the 13-year-old Boeing aircraft being offered by Qatar. It's shown here when President Trump toured it in West Palm Beach, Fla., in February. Photo: Ben Curtis/AP
The U.S. and Qatar were bargaining over the price for a "palace in the sky" Boeing 747-8 to be used as the new Air Force One — and Qatar "came back and said: 'We'll just gift it. It's OK,'" a top administration source tells Axios.
Qatar's plane is said to be parked in San Antonio. The emir of Qatar is a buddy of Steve Witkoff, U.S. special presidential envoy to the Middle East.
Backstory: How Trump got a free "palace in the sky"
ABC News reports this is the 13-year-old Boeing aircraft being offered by Qatar. It's shown here when President Trump toured it in West Palm Beach, Fla., in February. Photo: Ben Curtis/AP
The U.S. and Qatar were bargaining over the price for a "palace in the sky" Boeing 747-8 to be used as the new Air Force One — and Qatar "came back and said: 'We'll just gift it. It's OK,'" a top administration source tells Axios.
- "And it's gifted to the people of the United States, gifted to the Department of Defense," the source added. "And it's supposed to be ready by the end of the year."
- Democrats say that such a transfer would have to be approved by Congress.
- White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that "any gift given by a foreign government is always accepted in full compliance with all applicable laws."
- The first of the current planes was delivered in 1990. One or the other is frequently out for maintenance, and a replacement from Boeing isn't expected until at least 2027.
- "So that's what we got," the source said. "And nobody's happy with that. It isn't Donald Trump being a diva. Nobody's happy with that."
- "So it's got all the right configurations," the source continued. "It's a little bit bigger. It's got two floors." (The Air Force One planes currently also have two floors, but the top is mostly avionics.)
- "This has a usable area and two bedrooms, not one. They're small, but it's perfect for a head of state."
Qatar's plane is said to be parked in San Antonio. The emir of Qatar is a buddy of Steve Witkoff, U.S. special presidential envoy to the Middle East.
- "That's how they happened to know we were
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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That isn’t a rant, it’s a reality.
Maybe your defense if it is an unbridled & uncontested support of an individual.
Trump has some policies I like, his execution of them is often bumpy at best and the people he chooses to put around himself have one quality of unconditional loyalty but often lack competence. It’s not a rant, just a reality.
One could flip this statement. Is there anything the Yappi MAGA's won't defend? Crypto coin party, a jet from Qatari Royal Family. Trump tariff war. People on this board complained about "The Biden Crime Family" and turn a blind eye on Trumps grift.
There are systemic, bureaucratic, establishment, anti-republic/constitutional, and extremely corrupt business as usual practices in the federal govt. He is going after them, and that is going to result in quite a bit of squealing and conniption fits. It's going to be ugly, uncomfortable, and mistakes will be made. But if he breaks some things that need broken, he will hand a more honest, efficient, and "in their lane" executive branch to future presidents.
One example - the air traffic control system has been a mess for at least 35 years. 6 presidents have kicked that can down the road because they had other priorities. The system is using 1980s technology that sometimes doesn't work and the low accident rate is a testimony to the skill of controllers. But this should have been done decades ago and they are going to do it - assuming the cats in Congress can be herded.
We have seen political corruption in the law enforcement and intelligence arms of the federal government.
DOGE has exposed contract and spending corruption everywhere they have looked.
These things are hard to address for any president because the Evil Empire strikes back, but every patriotic American, whether they voted for Bad Orange Man or not, should see that it is worth the fight and support the effort. But they can't or don't because either they like the corruption and waste of big, administrative state federal govt or because their minds can't function beyond "Orange Man Bad; very, very bad."
Another example is the number of federal court cases this admin has going on. Most of that is because it is the latest form of Leftist resistance, but the Trump admin is happy to get these cases pushed up to SCOTUS because it will result in clarity on what the limits of the federal bureaucracy, the POTUS, and the judiciary are.
The left celebrates every time a district judge or appellate court hands them a temporary win, but the admin knows that once these cases reach SCOTUS, most of them will come out in their favor and will define the lanes and limits for each form of government - and that will protect the freedom of citizens and help government function better.
ProV1
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I remember when the MAGAs when batsh_t crazy when they thought Kamala suggested price controls. Now, they love them.
The king can do no wrong.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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All of your examples does not justify appointing incompetent individuals to prominent positions - example RFK Jr. Pete’s proving the job is too big for him. Appointing the drunk lady to a AG position? Maybe your candidate pool needs to be more than just a talking head on political talk tv. Marco has proven to be capable & competent.
I can't argue with that kind of opinion because, as you say it is "reality" to you. But each point is highly arguable with a point of truth.
I will dare say that you would not want to be judged as you are judging these people. Let's take RFKJ for example. He is from one of the most famous families in the world. He has been a lawyer representing clients. He has been an activist on environmental, food, drugs, vaccines, autism, etc. In that process, he has made a TON of public statements.
Let's compare that to you and I. How many of our statements were public and what % of those were silly or could be exaggerated into making us sound like nuts? I will go out on a limb and say our number of comments like that is not zero.
I wrote a column for a short stint years ago, and it amazed me at how some people could take something innocuous and add context that wasn't there, ignore the context that was there, and twist it into something totally unrecognizable. That said, I have said things that were not public, but if they were, I would have to publicly repent of. My point being that I think we need to cut public people a little slack about what they have said over, say, 40 years - not for purely outrageous or evil comments, but for lesser sins that we might not agree with, but give the person a chance to explain or repent.
RFKJ makes a ton of sense when he is talking about environmental toxins, healthy food, obesity, overuse,/misùse of drugs, water quality and standards, preventable chronic disease, and many other things. But people take his comments about linking MMRs and autism and his comments about having had a brain parasite, and try to define him by those and a couple other things. It's an example of bias, it's unfair, it's unjust, and even if he has shown several examples of nuttiness, it doesn't negate the sound ideas he has. Right?
So, the question is, why are you so willing to join into a flawed process of judging him that way?
Judge him by what he does as the sec and what the results are. Despite his prior statements, he says that they are going to review all research on vaccines and autism and deliver a conclusion by fall. Great idea. I suspect the conclusion will be that the link will be that the link is somewhere between highly unlikely to non-existent, but, regardless, it will be great to know and have an official determination.
But this blanket condemnation arising from deep bias has no positive effect on anyone and is not productive.
The Dems installed Rachel Lavine into a high position and when you do something like that, you don't really have any standing to criticize a RFKJ and be taken seriously.
I have offered criticism on no less than 6 policies, events, comments of BOM since Jan 21, but those criticisms are not registered by the deranged because it isn't loaded with the hate and bias for you to recognize it as criticism. So, you are full of shite, as usual, in several aspects of the above.
We don't join in on the imaginary things the deranged Left throws out, because, well, we are not deranged or leftists. And we are not inclined to allow those kinds of people to tell us what we should criticize.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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RFK Jr gets & earns 100% of criticism based on what he says & his actions. Have you questioned the measles vaccine? Have you eliminated funding for traumatic brain injury yet begine funding for alternatives remedies fir the measels yet we have a verified & safe vacine with decades of data to prove its safety?
As for autism, the best thing RFK Je has done is bring awareness to it for those who know little about it; kinda like the old saying there is no such thing as bad publicity. RFK Jr believes he can find a cause for autism in 6 months - absolutely impossible to predict when let alone actually finding a ‘cause’ in such a short time. Anyone vaguely familiar with autism realizes the stupidity in RFK Jr believing he can find a ‘cause, for Autism by this fall.
Regarding Americans would be better off if they had better diets, yes RFK Jr is correct. Ok, many Browns fans believe a Cleveland would be better off with another owner. Both of these theories are the obvious correct assumption. Congratulations Captain Obvious!
OldSoulon
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winbypin
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RFK,Jr. has stated the vaccine is the best prevention for measles.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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Are you the one on the right?
Orin Swift
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He’s so funny, his delivery is impeccable. “I said ‘It’s not working.’”
"Never let any single fact, or a series of them, get in the way of the narrative I'm pushing."