CHL 2024/2025 preview/season thread
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He was a backup QB for 3 years (and starting safety for at 2-3 of those) and battled DuPee (soph) for the starting QB job through camp. DuPee got the nod and they moved Lyons to receiver before game 1. He is big, strong, and effective as a receiver, and only getting better with more reps.
What's the answer you claim to know?
cpagan42
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exactly; state finals in 18 and 22; final 4 in 18, 19, 20, 22. regional final *last year*. those are all deep runs.
PURPLE REIGN
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The Taylor High School football game at Mariemont is still on as scheduled for Friday night. The Taylor football team plans to practice at Elder today. https://x.com/TRLSDjackets/status/1838714260878180456…
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The Taylor High School football game at Mariemont is still on as scheduled for Friday night. The Taylor football team plans to practice at Elder today. https://x.com/TRLSDjackets/status/1838714260878180456…
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Of course no one can know for sure. It’s like asking how much positive impact a tougher schedule would have had on those playoff runs? Pure speculation. Some feel sure an easy schedule doesn’t help very much.
93 red ls
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Lyons doesn't get the ball bc its Joel left and Joel right.
DIII Ross is 2-3, was just named team of the week by one of the sports outlets, and their 3 losses were all to quality opponents. DII Monroe was 2-8 last year, causing some early in this thread to question why WYO would play such a "soft" team. Fast forward to today, DII Monroe is 4-1, their only loss coming to Wyoming (23-6, with the 6 scored against JV late in the game), currently sitting tied with Kings for the 9-seed spot in Region 8. Those two wins against bigger schools who are winning games this year are both helping WYO in the computer points.
PURPLE REIGN
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Are you sure it's tonight? With Taylor being off school I assumed it would be during the day (before the Elder varsity practice).
Elder freshmen play at 5:30 vs St X at The Pit so Taylor probably can't take the field before 7:30.
What do you know about Lyons besides the fact that he looks good in pads.... Is he a good route runner? How are his hands? You realize that this is the first year he has ever played WR, right? So what advice would you give to Wyoming's coach that would help him win more games? Get the ball to a first year wide out, or feed the 2nd best running back in the league? Hmmmmm
4GX
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They've certainly had quite a bit of success-- no doubt-- won't argue that-- but I also remember years (the 2010 season sticks out for me)-- wherein they ran up the score big time on mediocre opponents-- and then crumpled (late in the second half) against tough competition (e.g.- Columbus DeSales, IIRC) in the playoffs-- I also remember it being a problem versus Coldwater, in Richard Hall's senior year...
In my opinion, the lack of being tested during that 2010 season-- and the lack of close games-- resulted in a first-string defense that just wore out against a tougher, more physical team than they were used to seeing-- they could have won that game (in my opinion)-- but they needed more endurance, built up from facing at least one or two such tough teams during the season-- and also the knowledge and confidence that they could rise to the occasion against such a team, when they finally faced a stiff challenge... I think their lack of difficult opponents during that regular season cost them in that state semi-final...
Okay, I guess those are fair points, but you're talking about teams from 15 years ago and 25 years ago. In 2009 (not 2010) they lost in the 4th round of the playoffs to DeSales and beat the other playoff teams by 2, 7 and 7. It's not like they weren't tested going into that DeSales game. DeSales was just better IMO. Sometimes teams are just better.
I don't know how relevant 25 year history is to this discussion but since you brought up Wyoming's 1998 semifinal run I think it's important to correct the record. The final score against Coldwater (20-10) was indicative of the close game that it was, one that Wyoming was leading at half. Hardly "crumpling" against superior competition. The facts also don't support your argument that "mediocre" opponents leading up to the game caused Wyoming to be unprepared. They started the season against Kings (only regular season loss) and then beat a very good Roger Bacon team and then either Badin or McNick (can't remember which one). That's a very tough OOC schedule. They then beat a Valleyview team in the quarterfinals that had won something like 30+ games in a row.
The loss against Coldwater had nothing to do with "not being tested" or "lack of close games." That is unless you expect them to schedule Moeller, St. X, etc. Look, we can debate OOC scheduling until we're blue in the face. At the end of the day the greater issue is the overall strength (or lack thereof) of the CHL.
93 red ls
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Yes sir. They jumped on as soon as the freshmen game was over!
Elder welcomes Taylor football team to practice at its field due to chemical leak
The Yellowjackets had to cancel practice on Tuesday as they prepared for a road matchup at Mariemont on Friday.
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4GX
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You make a valid point, in your last sentence-- the problem for Wyoming with the CHL is that 3/4 of the teams simply aren't competitive in state playoff games-- regardless of division-- and most of them are lower divisions than Wyoming-- Wyoming gets very little worthwhile playoff preparation out of ~6 regular season games, almost every year... That's not a problem in Coldwater's league, as even their smallest teams (e.g.- Maria Stein Marion Local) are not just competitive with the bigger schools-- they often dominate them...
As for the 1998 Coldwater game, I agree-- Wyoming was definitely in it (I meant that "crumpling" comment more for the DeSales game-- not Coldwater)-- and Hall was such a special talent (I'd argue, better than Kiner, recently-- I saw Hall make plays all by himself, against decent teams in the playoffs-- Braxton Miller/Jalin Marshall kind of magical plays-- albeit NOT against top-flight Division I teams, as those two did) that it always felt like Wyoming had a "puncher's chance" in that game-- but Wyoming definitely tired as the game went on-- and conceded most of the points (and the lead and the game) in the second half... Coldwater was just very good (and, I think, went on to win the state title that year).
4GX
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That DeSales game (are you sure it was 2009?-- I would have bet dollars to doughnuts it was 2010) was a fourth round game-- which, in those years of 8 regional playoff qualifiers meant that it was a state semi-final... I thought Wyoming had enough offense to win that game-- but Wyoming's defense just wore down in the second half-- and really couldn't stop DeSales after halftime.
yappimember67
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This is probably going to come off the wrong way toward the Taylor folks here - but damn was that really how Taylor plays every game? That team was straight up out of control. They must've had 15+ penalties, and a good chunk of them were unsportsmanlike, late hits, or personal fouls. There were a lot of penalties on both sides of the game, but Taylor let some really bad decisions keep that game way closer than it should have been.
Mariemont was already absolutely terrible to start and they lost a bunch more kids to injury. Taylor has some actual size and talent on their team. This should have been a running clock game. And for all the rain and wind today, weather was barely a factor. If it tells you anything, I think Mariemont had maybe two first downs that weren't caused by a penalty.
To end the game, Taylor has the ball with about a minute to go and the lead. Mariemont has no timeouts. And Taylor is running the ball and fumbles. They're lucky that Mariemont has maybe the least competent offense in the CHL.
I would love to hear the perspective of anyone else that saw that game.
Mariemont was already absolutely terrible to start and they lost a bunch more kids to injury. Taylor has some actual size and talent on their team. This should have been a running clock game. And for all the rain and wind today, weather was barely a factor. If it tells you anything, I think Mariemont had maybe two first downs that weren't caused by a penalty.
To end the game, Taylor has the ball with about a minute to go and the lead. Mariemont has no timeouts. And Taylor is running the ball and fumbles. They're lucky that Mariemont has maybe the least competent offense in the CHL.
I would love to hear the perspective of anyone else that saw that game.
I watched it on YouTube, it was ugly. I would love to hear how that Taylor team gave Wyoming a tight game.
93 red ls
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No excuses for the personal fouls....
But let's not forget Taylor didn't practice Tuesday. Was moved to elder on Wednesday. Some of the "cleves" kids were displaced for almost 2 nights. Had alot of adversity this week.
Their offense played bad just just bad enough.
Every once in awhile ya got to win an ugly one.
Taylor's Defense may be the most improved part of any team in the CHL. MM had 65 total yds of offense
But let's not forget Taylor didn't practice Tuesday. Was moved to elder on Wednesday. Some of the "cleves" kids were displaced for almost 2 nights. Had alot of adversity this week.
Their offense played bad just just bad enough.
Every once in awhile ya got to win an ugly one.
Taylor's Defense may be the most improved part of any team in the CHL. MM had 65 total yds of offense
Very good point I forgot about all the issues the Taylor kids had to go through this week. Their defense was impressive, MM couldn't move the ball at all.
yappimember67
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Honestly Taylor moved the ball well. The stats say they had 250+ yards of offense and 13 first downs. But they constantly put themselves behind the chains or gave Mariemont more chances with penalties. It was kind of crazy to watch.
Taylor's defense played great but Mariemont's offense is truly horrible. They've scored 16 total points (all against Finneytown) in the 4 games since their QB got hurt.
robertbob9876
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What are the chances that Mariemont does not have a football program in five years?
They are not good this year, but their numbers are pretty strong. Just like all the CHL teams there will be good years and bad but I can't see a time in the near future that they can't field a team. Fineytown on the other hand could be without a team in the next 2-3 seasons.