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exbear09 said:
Can UA overthrow SC for the crown? Who will step up and be the top dogs in their respective events this year? Who are the young guns who will burst onto the scene and throw their hat in with the established names this year?

Get excited. February will be here before we know it!
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Since the other thread has moved away from exbear's original question; I thought it appropriate to restart.

Looking just at what is returning from 2010 and removing the 2010 Seniors here's where things start:

Total District Individual Swim and Dive Opportunites -181 of the 270 swimming and diving qualifying positions return for 2011

By Event it breaks down as follows:
200 Free - 21 swimmers return - of those UA has 3; SC, Thomas & Kilbourne each have 2
200 IM - 27 swimmers return - of those SC & UA each have 3; Thomas, Liberty, & NA have 2 each
50 Free - 14 swimmers return - UA has 2
Diving - 19 divers return - Gahanna & Jerome have 3 each
100 Fly - 20 swimmers return - SC has 3; UA, Thomas, NA have 2 each
100 Free - 13 swimmers return- SC has 3
500 Free - 22 swimmers return - UA, SC, Thomas & Kilbourne have 3 each
100 Back - 25 swimmers return - UA has 4; NA has 3
100 Breast - 20 swimmers return - SC & UA each have 3
Total Returning Points (Ind. Qualifiers) - SC 260(13); UA 258(12); Thomas 120(9); Liberty 88(7); Kilbourne 49(5); & NA 49(8)

Looks like things could be tight like last year in the race for the team championship. Of course improvement in returners, impact freshman and relay performance will change the outlook. Anyway, it is closer than I would have imagined looking at the seniors lost by SC & UA. Based on this I doubt SC is ready to concede the District Title to UA!
 
 
Relays?

Relay results will definitely be a key as to who takes the boys district title. SC lost a few more senior relay members from 2010. Neither UA nor SC can expect to win the district without taking at least one relay.
 
scwat said:
Relay results will definitely be a key as to who takes the boys district title. SC lost a few more senior relay members from 2010. Neither UA nor SC can expect to win the district without taking at least one relay.
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That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!
 
rjones said:
That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!
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I'm not so sure about this. Aside from SC who won't roll over, I think Thomas Worthington has the potential for some pretty fast freestyle relays. UA's strength is in the longer races. At least going in, they don't have impressive sprint & 100 freestylers. Spangler & Lowery are gone.
 
rjones said:
That's right. UA will win all 3 relays and win the district by 50 points or more!
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Mr. Jones are u talking about the lady bears ? What is that i here marching .
Are the men at UA starting so early ? I hope the march for the ua mens swim team ends:party: better than the water polo march.
 
New Kids on the Blocks

Geoff Dickhaut is joining the swim team for his sophomore year. Just looking at the kid during the polo season, he is an incredibly promising athlete, and should help out UA's already promising team. Maybe he could help boost a depleted sprint-free group?

Are there any other new additions/young-guns to be on the lookout for this season in the central district?
 
Spoilers

aquacard said:
I think Thomas Worthington has the potential for some pretty fast freestyle relays.
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It would be interesting if there was a potential spoiler in there. If TW can beat both UA and SC, good for them. It would also be interesting if they finished between the two, which would be a big differential in relay points and affect the team totals. Who are the prospective TW freestylers that would make up a long or short relay?
 
scwat said:
It would be interesting if there was a potential spoiler in there. If TW can beat both UA and SC, good for them. It would also be interesting if they finished between the two, which would be a big differential in relay points and affect the team totals. Who are the prospective TW freestylers that would make up a long or short relay?
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Good question. I can think of two solid and three fighting for the other two spots. With Sam Reeder and Jesus Caraballo as the two, we have the potential of a 20 point high/21 high first half and a 22/23 back half of the 200 relay, maybe 1:28 and possibly four under 50 in the 400 with a 3:12. All speculation. I am sure that the TW guys would love to be the spoiler.
 
rjones said:
They may do just that in the 200 & 500. And when they retake the District crown de Bear will be coach of the year!
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There is no question that the talent is there and the coaching is unquestionably there to take the district. De Bear will have them ready, it'll just come down to how bad they want it, and if they can get through the year without any issues that would change who will be swimming. The Bears have shot themselves in the foot a couple times in the not so recent past, and that can't happen if you want to reach your potential.
 
UA distance

Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.
 
Expect the Unexpected

scwat said:
Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.
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To be honest, I have no clue. All of the distance guys can hold their own in any free distance except the 50, just from the way training with Stewart worked. That being said, I would bet if the guys have their way they will go for a sweep of the distance events (regardless of what would get the most points) so we'll have to see. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see something completely unexpected from the Bears this year because of the new coach and the fact that they are all fairly versatile and there are definatly some holes that need to be filled that are gonna have to be filled if this years team wants to achieve the high hopes people seem to have. It is very possible, but there is definatly gonna have to be a little shakin things up to get the pieces to fall into place.
 
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scwat said:
Exbear, is it possible that a distance swimmer or two will move down to sprints? Cutler seems to be pretty versatile.
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Interesting thought. St. X did that with Will Lawley who swam the 500 his freshman, sophomore and junior year and then swam the 100 his senior year.
 
The UA boys swam well at the Golden Bear. Also thought Dolgov looked particularly good. Any other bright spots that I missed?
 
Dolgov was clearly the standout of the meet, 4:46 in the 500, 1:59 in the IM, 54+ in his off event, the 100 back. Good kid as well.
 
Not to take anything away from Dolgov because he had a great meet, but so did Joey Long - 4:46.60 in the 500 to touch out Dolgov; 49.83 in 100; & 2:02.56 in the IM. And he's only a sophomore as opposed to a senior. By the way, I think Dolgov will swim breast again this year & not the 500. He fired off a 1:01.18 last weekend.
 
Long had a good meet as well, I just thought that the drops in PR's for Dolgov at the first meet are a good indication of how this year will go for him. I think that Long will win districts in the 200/500. Just surprised to see a 4:46 this early out of a non distance swimmer. Dolgov will also be the District favorite in the 2IM and breast. Can't wait for the Ned Reeb on 12/11
 
preeder61 said:
Can't wait for the Ned Reeb on 12/11
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It will be interesting to see what the line-ups look like for the Ned Reeb. It is the perfect way to get a preview of the district meet, but entries are due before teams get a chance to see where the swimmers are at and put together the best possible line-up based on competition. Practice is great, but nothing can replace the experience of a meet, and coaches don't get the chance to see their kids in action before they have to decide who swims what at OSU. UA will be especially disadvantaged because it is de Bears first year as coach of that program and will only have the performances in practice and what he can gather from summer results and last season to go off of.

The Ned Reeb will be a great indicator of the strengths of the teams and a great competition, but the true competition will be in February when coaches have time to assess the swimmers and put together their strongest line-ups.
 
Alex Miller, Kevin Lancki, Ty Perkins and Jacob Schuster all made the trip to Purdue with Miller the top scorer at 21 points.

On the other hand, Dak Stone, OSU's top recruit and Wisconsin high school record holder, came in with times in the 100/200 breaststroke of 55/2:01, swam the fall invite with times 1:00/2:14.
 
ImPartial said:
Alex Miller, Kevin Lancki, Ty Perkins and Jacob Schuster all made the trip to Purdue with Miller the top scorer at 21 points.

On the other hand, Dak Stone, OSU's top recruit and Wisconsin high school record holder, came in with times in the 100/200 breaststroke of 55/2:01, swam the fall invite with times 1:00/2:14.
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Difficult transitioning from HS to college, more intense training, not the fastest guy in the pool etc. added on to being away from home for the first time, trying to find out where to eat and do laundry and live with a bunch of guys who want to play video games all night, oh, and college academics. Every kid adapts in his/her own timeframe.
 
I noticed from viewing recent club meet results, that UA swimmers Adam & Andrew Rabe & Nick Sievert are swimming with the Ohio State Swim Club instead of the UA club. Is this break in tradition and a new trend or just a result of dissatisfaction with Stewart?
 
Here are some articles previewing UA, Thomas, Kilbourne & New Albany for the upcoming season:

UA BOYS READY FOR SHOT AT ST. CHARLES http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/co...ys-ready-for-shot-at-st--charles.html?sid=104

THOMAS TRAINING FOR BIG SEASON http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/co...s/thomas-training-for-big-season.html?sid=104

WOLVES PLAN TO IMPROVE ON LAST YEAR http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/co...ves-plan-to-improve-on-last-year.html?sid=104

GIRLS TEAM RAISES DIVISION I OUTLOOK http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/co...s-team-raises-division-i-outlook.html?sid=104
 
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