Cannot pitch the ball from a knee in HS. Knee must be off the groundIf a team runs a fake field goal/PAT, can the player in the holder position have the ball with their knee down and then stand up, or lateral the ball with their knee still on the ground?
can the player in the holder position have the ball with their knee down and then stand up? Yes.If a team runs a fake field goal/PAT, can the player in the holder position have the ball with their knee down and then stand up, or lateral the ball with their knee still on the ground?
If they started on a knee and had to rise to catch a bad snap, yes.They can actually catch the ball upright, go down to their knee, come back up, and run, pass, etc. But they cannot do pass or pitch while the knee is on the ground.
In 2018 in an effort to reduce re-kicks, further minimize risk and ensure that appropriate penalties are in place for all fouls, the rules committee has added an option for fouls committed by the kicking team during free and scrimmage kicks.Has the rule for kickoff out of bounds changed? We had one Friday, they awarded ball at the spot + a five yard penalty. I thought the 5 was only assessed on a re-kick?
Under NFHS rules. the touching of the ball by the defense does not absolve them from roughing or running into the kicker.I don't know if this has already been covered or not here. In Ohio, if a punt is partially blocked/receiving team gets a hand on the punt as the ball is being punted and then hits the punter, is this a penalty? I was at a game in 2013 where this happened and the receiving team was flagged 15 yards after getting a hand on the punt.
It's treated as a dead ball foul (because of the nature of the foul, non-contact, unsporting), therefore the touchdown counts and the defense has the option of enforcing the penalty on the try or the kickoff.If a player/team is penalized for taunting during a long TD run and the flag is thrown before the ball carrier has crossed the goal line, how is the penalty enforced?
I thought a few years ago they changed the rule to enforce the penalty from the spot of the foul so if the player had yet to cross the goal line it would nullify the score. Is that not the case?
I recently saw a play in which the taunting penalty was thrown when the ball carrier was at the 20 yard line going in. The enforcement was on the ensuing kick off.
Was that rule changed at some level? NCAA or NFL? Why is that in my brain?It's treated as a dead ball foul (because of the nature of the foul, non-contact, unsporting), therefore the touchdown counts and the defense has the option of enforcing the penalty on the try or the kickoff.
This has been the HS rule for decades.
You are thinking of NCAA which made unsportsmanlike conduct a live-ball foul in the early 2010s. See below.Was that rule changed at some level? NCAA or NFL? Why is that in my brain?
Yep, happened in the Kent State VMI game a couple weeks ago too.Was that rule changed at some level? NCAA or NFL? Why is that in my brain?
50 to 35, 35 to 20, 20 to 10, 10 to 5Team A runs a play and is tackled at the 50. After the play 4 Unsportsmanlike penalties are assessed to them. How is this enforced? There aren't enough yards to march off the penalties so is it half the distance 4 times or do you march off a few then go half the distance from there?
Going back to the Browns game two Sundays ago, something that has really bothered me even though I'm not technically a Browns fan.
Browns player makes play on sideline. Players tangled up and Chiefs coach shoves Browns player.NFHS...
Both are gone for flagrant actions. The dead ball fouls offset, the down counts.
Initially, Kansas City was assessed a dead ball taunting penalty in this incident. After an officials conference, followed by video review in New York, there was no penalty assessed against Kansas City or the KC assistant coach because the Browns player was stepping on the crotch of the downed KC player and the KC assistant's "shoving action" was deemed by the game officials and the video review officials in NY to stop the Browns player from harming the KC player.
The Browns player was ejected from the game for shoving the KC assistant.
Correct enforcement of the penalty. The enforcement results in a 3rd down and 1 from the 11.Yard markers at the 20 and ten heading in. Ball at the 22 (behind the chains) making it 3rd and 12.
There's a defensive pass interference call. Ref says half the distance to the goal and places ball at 11 yard line instead of marching off 15 yards and placing it at the 7 yard line with a first down.
Thoughts?
3rd & 1 is correct in grades 7-12.Yard markers at the 20 and ten heading in. Ball at the 22 (behind the chains) making it 3rd and 12.
There's a defensive pass interference call. Ref says half the distance to the goal and places ball at 11 yard line instead of marching off 15 yards and placing it at the 7 yard line with a first down.
Thoughts?
Yes they did, assuming that A1 lost the ball at the B-28. The penalty for the personal foul facemask in this situation would be enforced from the end of the run (where A1 fumbled the ball), either half the distance or 15 yards.A1 is running with the ball, gets past the first down marker; B1 commits a face-mask penalty on Team B's 28 yard line, flag is thrown, but A1 is still running when he coughs up the ball and its recovered by B2.
Zebras mark it off from the bean-bag, Team A retains possession on Team B's 14 yard line.
Did they get this right? (This happened to be broadcasted online with the referee's microphone plugged into the broadcast, so we could hear them discuss it -- sequence of events posted above is as it happened on the tape that I'm watching.)
A classic example of why the bean bag is thrown. When that ball is fumbled, it marks the end of the run. (albeit, as zebrastripes noted, it is unclear where in this play the ball was fumbled).A1 is running with the ball, gets past the first down marker; B1 commits a face-mask penalty on Team B's 28 yard line, flag is thrown, but A1 is still running when he coughs up the ball and its recovered by B2.
Zebras mark it off from the bean-bag, Team A retains possession on Team B's 14 yard line.
Did they get this right? (This happened to be broadcasted online with the referee's microphone plugged into the broadcast, so we could hear them discuss it -- sequence of events posted above is as it happened on the tape that I'm watching.)
What you describe here in all three scenarios are fouls for Illegal Use of Hands.In high school, is it a penalty if a defensive player (1) extends his arm and places his hand on the throat of an offensive player and pushes forward (not brief or incidental), (2) extends his arm and reaches underneath the face mask of an offensive player and pushes forward after cupping the chin of the offensive player in the palm of his hand or after sliding his hand upward between the offensive player's face and face mask, or (3) extends his arm and uses the palm of his hand to push up on the opening in the face mask of an offensive player?
I've seen all three scenarios happen, and no penalty has ever been called. Is it because none of them are illegal, or because one or more of them are illegal but the ref simply missed it each time?
Thanks.
Thanks for the quick reply, but are all the scenarios I described a penalty if the one using an open hand is the defensive player? Does 2-3-2b2 also cover the use of an open hand by a defensive player?What you describe here in all three scenarios are fouls for Illegal Use of Hands.
Rule 2-3-2b2 requires a blocker, when using the open hand technique, to have his hands inside the frame of the opponent's body. The frame of the opponent is defined as at the shoulders or below, other than the back.
Please note, if the original contact is legal and an opponent makes a move, voluntary or involuntary, that causes the blocker's hands be become illegal by definition.... then the block remains legal as long as that block is maintained throughout.
Yes...... A blocker by definition can be any player.Thanks for the quick reply, but are all the scenarios I described a penalty if the one using an open hand is the defensive player? Does 2-3-2b2 also cover the use of an open hand by a defensive player?
Unfortunately I'm not sure what you can do about this. Just seems like bad luck. You could raise complain to the assigner for the week 10 game but I wouldn't recommend that to most officials.This is not a question but a complaint.
Our crew just had our third game of the season cancelled by covid.
The first time the home team was able to find an opponent and we played on Saturday.
The second time four of us got picked up to sub on other crews.
As of 11:30 Wednesday night we do not have a game.
Week 10 we have a team who has already cancelled twice this season. What are the odds we work that game?
Who do I complain to about this?