Sparty?Sounds like an unfortunate case of MSU officiating.
Rule 9-8-2:
During a time-out for injury, the coach and/or such attendants as may be deemed necessary by the referee may, with permission, enter to attend the injured player(s).
Sparty?Sounds like an unfortunate case of MSU officiating.
Rule 9-8-2:
During a time-out for injury, the coach and/or such attendants as may be deemed necessary by the referee may, with permission, enter to attend the injured player(s).
IF R's the official's ruled that R's original momentum took him into the end zone and the ball became dead there, then, by rule the ball will be placed at the spot (wherever inside the 5 yard line) R possessed the ball. In your play, the ball would be spotted at R's 1yd line.... 1st and 10. (if that's what was judged)StX at LaSalle last Friday night
Opening kickoff
Return man tries to field kickoff on a fly at the 7 yard line.
Ball goes through his hands (he touches it).
He scoops ball up at the 1 yard line (has possession)
At which point he slides into the end zone due to momentum and falls down in end zone.
Is this a safety or a touchback?
No "Halo Rule" under NFHS Rules (and no longer in NCAA)Is their a "halo" rule in High School?
Do you have to give "room" for the receiving team on a punt?
"Path to the ball" ???No "Halo Rule" under NFHS Rules (and no longer in NCAA)
No K player shall obstruct R's path to the ball. If they do, then they are guilty of Kick Catch Interference.
Sure...."Path to the ball" ???
If the the receiving player is NOT touched,
can the Kick Catch penalty be called?
Interesting.Sure....
There's nothing in the rule (I quoted it exactly) that says there has to be contact in order for KCI to occur. If K obstructs R's path to the ball, it is a foul.
Just like forward pass interference, it's purely a judgement call.
R gets "an unobstructed opportunity to catch the ball." Contact is not required. They should call KCI.Interesting.
So if a receiver has to run around a punting team's player to catch the punt, they could call KCI?
Based on what you described, this is not a touchdown.Lake catholic vs VASJ Sat night:
Lake reciever has feet and hips on the ground in endzone catches ball, but ball is not accroos the front plane of the goalline, official by the ball (within 5 yds of catch marks ball at 1/2 yd line) which is where the front of the ball was. The Backjudge comes over and rukles touchdown?? Assuming I am accurate with my details why woulod he have thought it was a score?
In HS rules, a FG attempt is basically like a punt that can score 3 points. A missed FG attempt is treated like a punt.Can you return a field goal attempt in ohio hs football?
thank you.In HS rules, a FG attempt is basically like a punt that can score 3 points. A missed FG attempt is treated like a punt.
So, yes, a FG attempt can be returned unless the kick crosses the goal line. At that point, it would be a touchback, same as if a punt crossed the goal line.
Did the chains for 30 years. We were always instructed to lay the sticks down so nobody is confused as you indicate. On multiple occasions in different situations I spoke up to point out errors by the crew. Usually I was thanked. Once I was ejected for arguing a correctable error. Later it was acknowledged I was correct but apparently nobody on the officiating crew wanted to stand up to the crew boss. Such is life.Thanks for the reply, I had never seen it before. It didn’t affect the outcome of the game, it just prompted the question I had about keeping track of situations. Always appreciate the responses.
Has this rule changed? This exact scenario happened Friday. The QB was being sacked and threw the ball at last second. Initially ruled a fumble, then incomplete pass and after discussion they called grounding. I was saying that it wasn’t based on this rule and the QB was taught to throw it away if he was getting sacked.Exactly....
The question was asked at the clinic.... "if the defender is taking the potential passer who is inside the FBZ to the ground and the ball is thrown into the ground just before he is down by rule, what do we have?"
The answer was, "an incomplete pass".
Nothing has changed.Has this rule changed? This exact scenario happened Friday. The QB was being sacked and threw the ball at last second. Initially ruled a fumble, then incomplete pass and after discussion they called grounding. I was saying that it wasn’t based on this rule and the QB was taught to throw it away if he was getting sacked.
Thanks in advance
Thank you, as predicted, there is a lot of confusion over this rule.Nothing has changed.
Yes, targeting is a foul. That said, helmet to helmet contact is not in and of itself illegal.Is targeting a penalty in high school. I have seen at least 5 blatant helmet to helmet hits and none were called.
All would have resulted in an ejection in college. I understand that high school refs don’t have the benefit of replay. But over the last 4 years we’ve played ~60 games and not one targeting call.Yes, targeting is a foul. That said, helmet to helmet contact is not in and of itself illegal.
Targeting is an act by any player who takes aim and initiates contact against an opponent above the shoulders with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulders.
What you saw may or may not have been targeting
Targeting in HS does not carry an automatic ejection, as it does for NCAA. That would have to be an additional judgment that the foul was flagrant. So even if the proper call was targeting in the games you saw, it would not necessarily result in an ejection.All would have resulted in an ejection in college. I understand that high school refs don’t have the benefit of replay. But over the last 4 years we’ve played ~60 games and not one targeting call.
A philosophy that is taught by the OHSAA is....All would have resulted in an ejection in college. I understand that high school refs don’t have the benefit of replay. But over the last 4 years we’ve played ~60 games and not one targeting call.
CorrectKicking team lined up to kick off following a score. Receiving team is anticipating and onside kick and only has one man deep.
Ball is kicked approximately 20 yards in the air (not looking for hop, not squibbed). Return man runs up to catch it but does not signal fair catch. He muffs it. Kicking team scoops and runs the ball into the endzone.
Referees wave off the TD and place the ball at the spot of the muff. The refs inform the coach that you cannot advance an onside kick.