RollingTrain
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Well, how many games last year involving city league teams or teams in sketchy areas across the state had issues just last year? And that doesn’t even take into consideration really bad gates if you host.
2025 Three Rivers Conference.
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footballsalads43
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Plenty of ways to combat this. TRC schools can host, or if the DPS schools host have them play during the day on Saturday morning or earlier Thursday/Friday night. Also don’t the DPS teams play their home games at Welcome stadium? I don’t think they had any issues at all last year from what I recall. The gate shouldn’t be a factor, this is to fill out a schedule. Who else can they play that wouldn’t require a long trip or punching well above their weight?? Finding games should be the main priority and a DPS/TRC agreement seems like a fair matchup. If Beavercreek, Miamisburg, Bellbrook all played DPS teams last year why can’t the TRC schools do it? I really don’t see the big deal with it…
winbypin
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If the TRC teams don't want to travel great distances to fill those holes in the schedule then DPS might be their only option in football. Not ideal maybe but in terms of the potential problems....you're spot on. Have the games at your home field. That eliminates a lot of the issues. If not possible, a Saturday noon game works great too down at welcome.
I am still interested to hear about these cultural differences though.
To be fair... Most of the MAC is cut from the same cloth.Old Bless doesn't want Milton to join the MAC because of cultural differences. Ha
Religion and family values are a big thing. Marion, St Henry, and Mister are all like 98% catholic towns. DSJ is obviously a catholic school. Coldwater, Fort and Bremen also have a big catholic presence.
Parkway and NK are unique ones for sure.
A ton of 2 parent households also, which falls under family values. This can be a major factor in athletic success.
I think culture does define a conference. Which is another reason Fort Loramie and Russia are really the only two good "fits" into the conference. Essentially MAC communities already.
Bruce Monnin
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I don't know. I was born and raised in Minster and still live there. My parents were from Russia and Fort Loramie. While I am mostly considered a member of the Minster community, I don't think my parents ever truly were.
footballsalads43
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Me too.
Angry John
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Let's face it, there are a lot of reasons why a team faces a certain type of opponent or belong to League X. Goals, size of the schools and make up need to match. Nothing wrong with that.
winbypin
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What do you mean by the make up needs to match?
Angry John
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Winbypin, when did you become the Master of the King
's English ? When did make up, background or culture become bad words ? Take your trap word approach and stick it up your . I enjoyed the MAC fans discussing the MAC league's culture.
winbypin
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Your username fits you. Lol.Winbypin, when did you become the Master of the King
It's a simple question. What did you mean by that statement? I will allow you to explain yourself.
The MAC culture is representative of that specific league. If TRC schools played some DPS schools they are in different leagues. One shouldn't expect it to feel like a TRC game. Doesn't mean you run away from the game though.
Angry John
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For starters, I am not against Milton playing certain DPS schools. It would depend on the Division they are in, how competitive they are as a team and the coaching staff employed.
Angry John
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PS: I am allowed to say anything I want within reasons of the First Amendment.
Rickybobby2468
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First amendment is in regards to speaking out against the government but nice try
winbypin
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Fair enough. At least those are football reasons and not some vague comments about cultural differences or the make up of the team. Probably should have just said that so people didn't think you were speaking in code to hide true feelings.
Lol. Of course you are. Nobody said you couldn't.
Bless Em All
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The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects five fundamental freedoms: religion, speech, press, assembly, and petition. It means the government cannot create laws that interfere with these rights. In essence, it safeguards your freedom to think, express yourself, and participate in public life
I'm confused, what problems would they have playing at Welcome Stadium?
Trust me, it would not matter what division DPS schools are in. The difference would be on the field discipline; penalties, execution, situations, scheme. TRC and DPS league would be good matchups, DPS is not a strong football league. No DPS school could beat Milton-Union. Imagine playing Northridge.
winbypin
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Not sure. You have to ask him. I was just commenting on how to avoid the potential problems if administrations are concerned .
dograt
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Not the venue, but the time.
If the TRC and DPS scheduled each other weeks 4 and 5, would that be 3 games at TRC sites and 3 at DPS?
Please help me here...Do DPS does play some games at schools, or all at Welcome? Do any of the schools have bleachers? I know they play mostly at Welcome, but does that work when UD is home on Saturday? Could this work on Friday nights? or do you have to get Saturdays involved?
5 games at TRC and 1 Friday night at Welcome would be much better, if less fair to DPS schools. Although...if the DPS schools play some away games at Welcome are really away games? They probably play at Welcome enough? It wouldn't really hurt them to go 5-1 with the TRC.
OK got you, no DPS school has their own stadium all games are at Welcome, one of the best facilities in the state. If it goes through, Trotwood reluctantly, will be in the DPS League next year along with Jefferson
and Stivers will add football . Trotwood will be the only school that has a stadium.They play their games on Thursday, Friday, sometimes doubleheaders and Saturday. Obviously, if UD plays DPS will not play they do a good job of not scheduling games when UD plays although UD pays DPS to use the stadium, Welcome Stadium is owned by Dayton Public Schools.
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dograt
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Have to believe that Trotwood in DPS would kill the TRC/DPS scheduling. If DPS has 8 teams, they now don't need those week 4 and 5 games against the TRC.OK got you, no DPS school has their own stadium all games are at Welcome, one of the best facilities in the state. If it goes through, Trotwood reluctantly, will be in the DPS League next year along with Jefferson
It only works if DPS is 6 (Dunbar, Meadowdale, Belmont, Marshall, Stivers, Ponitz)
Trotwood is doing everything they can not to join that league, that will hurt them.
footballsalads43
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Trotwood will NOT be joining the league for football. They will be joining for all other sports though. They are deciding to be independent in football (which is 100% the right move). Stivers will be joining for football most likely and Jefferson barely fields a team, so I’d say there’s a 90% chance the DPS will be a 6 team league in 2027 when the TRC goes to 6 teams.OK got you, no DPS school has their own stadium all games are at Welcome, one of the best facilities in the state. If it goes through, Trotwood reluctantly, will be in the DPS League next year along with Jefferson
They play their games on Thursday, Friday, sometimes doubleheaders and Saturday. Obviously, if UD plays DPS will not play they do a good job of not scheduling games when UD plays although UD pays DPS to use the stadium, Welcome Stadium is owned by Dayton Public Schools.
Bless Em All
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No matter what conclusion you come to, the DPS and TRC is not a good fit. Why don’t they work with the GCL co-ed, they are 6-teams. There are other options and I don’t see the TRC lasting long with 6 teams. Some may disagree with me, and that’s what this site is all about, but past ventures with the DPS are few and there’s a reason for that. Milton will be odd man out of Miami East or anyone else leaves. Some of that is logistics.
CJ, Alter, Badin, Fenwick are all Milton’s size and East too. That’s playing up and preparing you better for playoffs. IMHO.
CJ, Alter, Badin, Fenwick are all Milton’s size and East too. That’s playing up and preparing you better for playoffs. IMHO.
footballsalads43
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Those games would be blood baths outside of maybe Carroll and the top half of the TRC…. Those games do not benefit anyone. The GCL Co-Ed also can just play the SWBL bigger schools (6 team league as well) which are much closer to them overall and much better competitive fits for them.
Pound for pound the TRC/DPS matchups are much more even and I think would be good matchups for the TRC schools
Bless Em All
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I disagree, but that’s ok. Let the rest of the TRC fend for themselves. Milton could complete with those schools. Alter would be tough but the others are winnable. Don’t have to be team for team. MU vs Fenwick: Northridge vs Carroll: East vs CJ. TC and Lehman could go to MBC schools to schedule.
footballsalads43
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Milton could probably hold their own against Carroll and maybe Fenwick depending on the year. CJ would win fairly easy every year against Milton, and would running clock most of the TRC with no issue. Alter, Badin and McNick are putting a running clock on Milton-Union and the rest of the TRC by halftime if not sooner, and I mean that with all respect to MU.. but those 3 are just a whole other level.
winbypin
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MBC doesn't have football.
Bless Em All
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Your opinion, in 2022 Milton would have beaten Alter, CJ, etc. I just don’t see CJ being that tough consistently. You might be right, but we will never know until it happens. Also, I’m not sure you have a realistic viewpoint of Milton Football. You judge them based on the last couple of seasons and that’s not fair to Pearce or the program.
footballsalads43
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I know Milton overall is a very strong football community and school. I mean no disrespect to their program or Coach Pearce. But if we are talking on a year by year basis I just don't see Milton competing with Alter, Badin, CJ or McNick. Maybe 2022 Milton would've beat them, and that's a fair argument, but its 2025 now. Milton does not want to play those schools with where they are currently at, and this is just my opinion as an outsider not connected to their program at all. Now if Milton wants to try Carroll I think that would be a good matchup, and maybe Fenwick would be a decent matchup. But in no world do I see Milton playing those other 4 unless its their only option.