2024 Cincinnati Bengals

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#Texans GM Nick Caserio 'You need three to four tackles. You can't have enough good ones on your team.' @KPRC2

#Texans Nick Caserio: 'We don't really take a needs-based approach. It's a football player based approach.'
 
What is with the Bengals that they have to have a player who has hit a woman; they trade Mixon and pick up Burton
 
This is what drafting for need over BPA looks like:


Texas A&M's McKinnley Jackson, is ranked by Dane Brugler as a 6th-7th round and 21st DT overall.

#Bengals went early bc they could not afford to miss at big DT. Doing so for one of the few big bodies in this draft that could do the job in their mind is paying price for failing to address it in free agency.
 
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Nose tackles generally don’t pop off stat sheet but Texas A&M game-wrecker McKinnley Jackson’s (6015v, 320v, 33 3/4 arm) explosive traits are obvious when you put on 🎥.

A&M coaches say nobody messes with Jackson & NFL scouts will love how he’s wired.

#TheDraftStartsInMOBILE™️
 
What is with the Bengals that they have to have a player who has hit a woman; they trade Mixon and pick up Burton


Here’s the video for context. Don’t condone what he did at all, but the video helps put it into perspective.

He essentially sticks his arm out and let’s her run into his open hand. She even refers to it as a slap in the caption of the video.


Stupid, immature and absolutely not ok. But also important to clarify he didn’t haul off and punch someone as someone would assume if they haven’t seen the video.


 
Perfectly said. They got a top 10 talent whose main knock is inexperience. Now, he gets to learn behind two very experienced vets.

Bengals oline depth and future starting outlook was abysmal. Mims is your RT next year and probably your LT after Orlando is done.

He will also see the field early in jumbo packages.
His biggest knock is his desire to play the game.
 
all offseason most of you were bitching to get burrow protected. they draft a guy, albeit with injury issues and still complaining. bengals fans are the worse. lol. so since he may not start this season hes already a terrible pick? wouldn't any tackle be sitting this year b/c of the offseason signing? if Mims didn't declare early he was being projected as a top 5 pick next year. anyways, if there was a travesty, they didn't trade up to get murphy from texas.

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I’m not someone who has sat on here complaining about the O-line, but here’s why it’s a poor process:

You’re in win-now mode. Especially if they’re planning on one last season with Higgins and Hendrickson — two of the too few high-quality players on the team — before jettisoning them due to trade demands, money concerns, age philosophy, etc.

If that’s the plan, then your first-round pick better be an instant plug-and-play impact player that upgrades a position of need. According to many, the Bengals’ biggest immediate needs were, in no particular order: Run stuffer DT, edge rusher, cornerback, WR, TE and OL (and punter and RB).

The Bengals already addressed RT in free agency. By then drafting that RT’s replacement, you’re saying either: 1) We’re fine with our first rounder riding the pine all year in a must-win season, likely the team’s best chance to win it all for awhile; or 2) We really F’ed up our RT free agency signing, we know he’s going to get hurt, so we need his replacement on hand. In which case, why’d you sign the guy in the first place?

None of this is to say that Mims won’t eventually turn into a quality NFL player, but the situation makes little sense, and it doesn’t help that Mims himself has been injury prone.
 
Nick Saban would disagree hard to believe a former HC would call a player out for his lack of "toughness" like Saban did.


And Saban never coached him. Questioned why Mims left a game for an injury that ended up needing surgery. It was well documented that Mims injured his ankle

I thought Mims handles the question well yesterday when asked about Saban’s comments.
 
I’m not someone who has sat on here complaining about the O-line, but here’s why it’s a poor process:

You’re in win-now mode. Especially if they’re planning on one last season with Higgins and Hendrickson — two of the too few high-quality players on the team — before jettisoning them due to trade demands, money concerns, age philosophy, etc.

If that’s the plan, then your first-round pick better be an instant plug-and-play impact player that upgrades a position of need. According to many, the Bengals’ biggest immediate needs were, in no particular order: Run stuffer DT, edge rusher, cornerback, WR, TE and OL (and punter and RB).

The Bengals already addressed RT in free agency. By then drafting that RT’s replacement, you’re saying either: 1) We’re fine with our first rounder riding the pine all year in a must-win season, likely the team’s best chance to win it all for awhile; or 2) We really F’ed up our RT free agency signing, we know he’s going to get hurt, so we need his replacement on hand. In which case, why’d you sign the guy in the first place?

None of this is to say that Mims won’t eventually turn into a quality NFL player, but the situation makes little sense, and it doesn’t help that Mims himself has been injury prone.
Have no problem with Bengals picking a OT, JB's protection is no.1 priority but do agree your 1st rd. draft pick should be able to play or contribute (significantly) immediately. Mims may be very talented but that talent does no good sitting on the sideline. To me this pick looks like Jackson Carman all over again.
 
And Saban never coached him. Questioned why Mims left a game for an injury that ended up needing surgery. It was well documented that Mims injured his ankle

I thought Mims handles the question well yesterday when asked about Saban’s comments.
Mims had the surgery in Sept. of 23 not after the Alabama game (less he had surgery a 2nd time I don't think so). Very unusual for a HC to call out a player's desire (toughness) for the game. Saban knows more about football than your avg. joe.
 
Who is going to play corner opposite CTB this year, Turner yikes. Hopefully a corner comes available after teams cut players this spring - summer. What is the plans for dax hill (1st rd. draft pick), Bengals and drafting Xichigan players. TBH I hate that team up north.

Edit: The Bengals are much better at FA (signing other team's players) than drafting their own players.
 
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Mims had the surgery in Sept. of 23 not after the Alabama game (less he had surgery a 2nd time I don't think so). Very unusual for a HC to call out a player's desire (toughness) for the game. Saban knows more about football than your avg. joe.
He reinjured that ankle against Alabama. Saban is the GOAT of college football, but don't forget he failed miserably in the NFL.

What are the odds both starting tackles start every game this year? I would put it at 10%.
 
He reinjured that ankle against Alabama. Saban is the GOAT of college football, but don't forget he failed miserably in the NFL.

What are the odds both starting tackles start every game this year? I would put it at 10%.
Failed miserably in the NFL?

His HC record was 9-7 in 2005 and 6-10 in 2006, with a combined point differential of -24. And that was being hamstrung with Gus Frerotte as his QB in 2005 and Joey Harrington in 2006, with a few games of Daunte Culpepper sprinkled in during 2006.

If you think Saban was the reason for failure there, you’re an idiot.
 
And drafting OL who will be on the bench does that how?
Based on recent history, odds are there will be at least one if not multiple OL injuries. He'll play some, if not a lot.

Having OL depth, let alone quality OL depth, has been a tremendous problem the last several years.
 
Failed miserably in the NFL?

His HC record was 9-7 in 2005 and 6-10 in 2006, with a combined point differential of -24. And that was being hamstrung with Gus Frerotte as his QB in 2005 and Joey Harrington in 2006, with a few games of Daunte Culpepper sprinkled in during 2006.

If you think Saban was the reason for failure there, you’re an idiot.
He left because they were getting worse and his coaching didn't work in the NFL. Remember his Nicktator nickname?
 
He reinjured that ankle against Alabama. Saban is the GOAT of college football, but don't forget he failed miserably in the NFL.

What are the odds both starting tackles start every game this year? I would put it at 10%.
Again no problem drafting a OT but the Bengals drafted one that has 8 career college starts. As for Saban I think he knows more about a players make up (character) than most.
 
The talk of wanting/needing to start Mims beginning week 1 is very premature. It’s ibvious the kid has raw physical talent - he’s a 1st rd pick. But let’s see how hole looks in training camp and what the Bengals schedule looks like to start the season. If Cincy has the Steelers & Browns in the first four games…..might be a good idea to sit Mims and bring him along slowly or play him and have the over/indercat 4.5 sacks combined for Watt & Garrett.

Looking at prior first round 18th picks over the last 10 years and the number of games/starts they had their rookie season:
23 - Det lb Jack Campbell, 17/12
22 - Ten wr Trenton Burk, 11/6
21 - Mia de Jaelen Phillips, 17/5
20 - Mia ot Austin Jackson, 13/12
19 - Min c Garrett Bradbury, 16/16
18 - GB cb Jaire Alexander, 13/11
17 - Ten de Adoree Jackson, 16/16
16 - Ind c Ryan Kelly, 16/16
15 - KC cb Marcus Peters, 16/16
14 - NYJ s Calvin Pryor, 16/11

Some 1st rd guys are ready from day one and some guys (Steelers HOF safety Troy Palamala and dt Cam Heyward) never start a game in their first season.
 
Based on recent history, odds are there will be at least one if not multiple OL injuries. He'll play some, if not a lot.

Having OL depth, let alone quality OL depth, has been a tremendous problem the last several years.
You don’t spend a 1st round pick on depth.
 
You don’t spend a 1st round pick on depth.
The only guys available when they picked that would have been day 1 starters for them were guys that would have been their #2 corner this year.

They seem fine with their #2 corner being a guy they picked in the 2nd round last year.
 
The talk of wanting/needing to start Mims beginning week 1 is very premature. It’s ibvious the kid has raw physical talent - he’s a 1st rd pick. But let’s see how hole looks in training camp and what the Bengals schedule looks like to start the season. If Cincy has the Steelers & Browns in the first four games…..might be a good idea to sit Mims and bring him along slowly or play him and have the over/indercat 4.5 sacks combined for Watt & Garrett.

Looking at prior first round 18th picks over the last 10 years and the number of games/starts they had their rookie season:
23 - Det lb Jack Campbell, 17/12
22 - Ten wr Trenton Burk, 11/6
21 - Mia de Jaelen Phillips, 17/5
20 - Mia ot Austin Jackson, 13/12
19 - Min c Garrett Bradbury, 16/16
18 - GB cb Jaire Alexander, 13/11
17 - Ten de Adoree Jackson, 16/16
16 - Ind c Ryan Kelly, 16/16
15 - KC cb Marcus Peters, 16/16
14 - NYJ s Calvin Pryor, 16/11

Some 1st rd guys are ready from day one and some guys (Steelers HOF safety Troy Palamala and dt Cam Heyward) never start a game in their first season.
There’s a difference bw not starting and riding the Bench. OL rarely rotate.
 
The only guys available when they picked that would have been day 1 starters for them were guys that would have been their #2 corner this year.

They seem fine with their #2 corner being a guy they picked in the 2nd round last year.
They need to consider Hendrickson might not play. If Verse wasn’t starting, he could at least still see the field. Mims won’t be playing unless there’s an injury.
 
There’s a difference bw not starting and riding the Bench. OL rarely rotate.

A teams swing tackle gets a few snaps (mostly run plays) a game.

I don’t think any reasonable Bengal fan wants Mims being the day 1 starter protecting Burrow with a Watt or Garrett on the other side of the ball with only 8 collegiate starts.

No player has made the HOF in his first 4-8 starts/games of his NFL career but quite a few have lost their mojo and never developed into the player they could have been if brought along properly.
 
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