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Oh you and Tbone know - I guess that settles it. That's all the proof the OHSAA will need - just call them. Who knew runtheball and tbone had the golden dagger to bring down the evil empire that is Glenville.

Correct - which is even more proof that the OHSAA is watching them and have placed them where they feel they belong. Im sure they didn't come off probation and get placed in the wrong division.

You are the first person that showed any proof - thank you. I do know that during some of that time there was no football as well. Im not sure if it's one or two seasons. During that time many kids went to school elsewhere - Euclid, Cleveland Heights, etc.

Just starting this thread to see what people think of their team for next season - what they lose, what's coming back and who is coming up. Curious to see what many of these programs have returning and the expectations.

I know they shut down due to Covid.

That is false. I agree there probably an adjustment needed. People are accusing them of fake addresses and other events that would be considered cheating. They also thing that Ginn was opened solely for the ability to play in lower divisions. Saying the rules need to be looked at is a lot...

If Glenville is a guilty of doing all these horrible things for so long don't you think something would have been done by now ? I mean if they are so corrupt and dishonest I'm sure something would have stuck to them by now. How can a team supposedly cheat for that long and absolutely nothing has...

Again - do you have proof or is it hearsay ? If there is proof report them.

Again do you have proof of false addresses - or are you repeating what others have said. If there is proof a school can file a complaint. Why has NOBODY done this if it's such an issue ? Again people are assuming things are being done to allow Glenville to play in a lower division - that is not...

People are calling Glenville cheaters - how are they cheating ? That word keeps getting thrown around. They did not make the rules and the school was not created so Glenville could win D4 football titles. That is shallow thinking. Maybe the rules are incorrect or maybe their situation needs to...

Correct - so you should move up and Ed's move down. How Stupid.

Ed's was without their QB and several kids were ill. So penalize Massillon ? Ed's lost to Massillon, should they drol to D2 ?

How many schools would rather move up and possibly lose more often or stay where they belong and compete for state championships ? Im guessing not many. If D4 is where they belong then haters be damned, let them stay there.

You have a real hatred for Glenville for whatever reason.

Complete assumption.

The blueprint is out there on how to build a program that is constantly good. The problem 90% of the schools / coaches don't want to put it the effort and time that it takes build that level of a program. The MAC schools and Kirtland have mastered that blueprint. It's no longer building a...

I'm sure after winning back to back titles and all the crying people have done about it the OHSAA will look into their division. If they deem everything is on the up and up they will be back in D4 next year. If not I'm sure they will be bumped up - or down (how funny would that be)..

Heights will be fine. There are some really good teams in Ohio. When you play a schedule like the one they have you are going to lose games. You will get every teams best shot. That will not matter come tournament time. They are going to blow through the state tournament.

Glenville was also in the toughest region in Ohio. Not many teams won D1 when Iggy, Ed's and Mentor had the teams they had.

2002 and up. Glenville lost some heartbreakers over the years because they were forced to go for two or go for it on 4th down. In comparison there was years when Mentor, Ed's and Iggy would almost have a for sure 3 points if they crossed the 40. That is huge in close games. The talent Ginn had...