the_beezer
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If he moves up where does tucker goWill he stay at 106 or will he move up ?
If he moves up where does tucker goWill he stay at 106 or will he move up ?
He seemed to be flirting with 113 this year. Went ‘13 Super 32. My guess is that he’ll try and put on size to get ready for college.If he moves up where does tucker go
Not if the year they won their first was at 103-106...which is OFTEN. Moving up a weight is tougher at the lightest weight based on % of weight, and they certainly aren't going down.If its true that some of the 4x’ers won a title because of a “down year“, could it also be true that the weight class had a “down year“ precisely because they were in it? In other words, athletes cut down or bumped up to avoid them.
If he moves up where does tucker go
Maybe 157If he moves up where does tucker go
That kid will be just fine! Maybe they will wrestle off.120, I would think.
I won't. There's always the behemoth of Ironman.Marcus Blaze, he's the real deal. I'd be shocked if he loses a high school match in his career.
This is the nature of climate change, Bucksman. ?…
There are different climates every year.
That kid will be just fine! Maybe they will wrestle off.
Well Logan Stieber’s frosh year he would have had David Taylor in his weight class in D2 so one of them wouldn’t be a 4 timer. In D1 he would have had Sammy White and Jamie Clarke, where he would be definite favorite but not a foregone conclusion that he wins over both of them as both were extremely good. In Cam Tessari’s frosh year he would have had junior David Taylor in D2, he ain’t winning that, and sophomore Jamie Clarke in D1 he would be a decided underdog in that one. Just 2 for instancesSure on balance D1 is deeper than D3, and obviously having 3 divisions gives more opportunities for more total championships but I think Logan Stieber , Chris Phillips, Hunter Stieber, Cam Tessari, David Carr (freshman), Kaleb Romero, likely would have won D1 4x as well.
Ohio's good enough of a wrestling state to have more than 1 Divisional champ, IMO go back to the 70's 2 Divisions AAA-and A-AA combined. Three is a bit much, then at the end of the season have the 2 state champs each division compete, it will sell out. David Taylor likely the best 4 xer out of Ohio all time , his results in the Ironman and National ranking fortify that opinion. I'm not counting college career because thats a different animal, not all Elite guys choose to continue putting wrestling first after High school. Would he have won 4 titles against the best ever each season, each weight class before him ? Doubtful, but he would likely be the most capable of doing that of any 4 xer there is.I don't want to bore people to death, but the simple fact that Ohio has three divisions right now has enhanced the number of four timers.
2010 - OH 103 - D1 has Heil & DiCamillo, D2 has Ryan Taylor, D3 has Tomasello. Those four kids were all nationally elite. Heil and Tomasello end up 4x state champs - if the classifications were different, there would be less. Pretty hard to deny that.
2007 - OH 103 - D1 has White, Clark, & Robinson; D2 has David Taylor; D3 has Logan Stieber. This opening weight class has five national level kids in it, the opening weight this year has one (Beric Jordan), and that's it.
There are different climates every year.
he literally beat d1 4 timer after he bumped up a weightOhio's good enough of a wrestling state to have more than 1 Divisional champ, IMO go back to the 70's 2 Divisions AAA-and A-AA combined. Three is a bit much, then at the end of the season have the 2 state champs each division compete, it will sell out. David Taylor likely the best 4 xer out of Ohio all time , his results in the Ironman and National ranking fortify that opinion. I'm not counting college career because thats a different animal, not all Elite guys choose to continue putting wrestling first after High school. Would he have won 4 titles against the best ever each season, each weight class before him ? Doubtful, but he would likely be the most capable of doing that of any 4 xer there is.
tucker will go where ever he wants (him and beric are a close match)If he moves up where does tucker go
The rumor I've heard, Jordan is transferring to The Delphian Boarding School in Oregon.Tucker could easily take 120 from Ryan.
Any rumblings on where Jordan is heading to college??
That's great, at least he won't end up at Heaven's GateThe rumor I've heard, Jordan is transferring to The Delphian Boarding School in Oregon.
The best freshman are the ones who place or win at the big boy weights, like Shumate. A well respected coach said the field is loaded with studs when you get around 132-195.I think Blaze and Tucker are both going to be 4x champs. Both very special, with Blaze being, maybe, the best Freshman I have ever seen.
Which is why, IMO, Chris Phillips was the best HS wrestler I ever saw.The best freshman are the ones who place or win at the big boy weights, like Shumate. A well respected coach said the field is loaded with studs when you get around 132-195.
Always gonna haters isn’t there! I would love to know the well respected coach that said that!?The best freshman are the ones who place or win at the big boy weights, like Shumate. A well respected coach said the field is loaded with studs when you get around 132-195.
I’m sure they will both go where ever their team needs them. Cause thats the kind of boys both of them are.tucker will go where ever he wants (him and beric are a close match)
Who?Things could get very interesting in the lighter weights of D2.... pretty sure there will be an absolute hammer transfer in from a different division for next season.
LOL Many years 112...119...and 125 NATIONALLY were the NUMBER 1 ranked weight classes in the country . This is based on national rankings of ELITE numbers in a particular weight class. The talent pool is LESS at the higher weights...170 and above, you have no clue what you're talking about.The best freshman are the ones who place or win at the big boy weights, like Shumate. A well respected coach said the field is loaded with studs when you get around 132-195.
Say that a little louder for the folks in the back! ?LOL Many years 112...119...and 125 NATIONALLY were the NUMBER 1 ranked weight classes in the country . This is based on national rankings of ELITE numbers in a particular weight class. The talent pool is LESS at the higher weights...170 and above, you have no clue what you're talking about.
126-144 are toughest / deepest…learn to wrestle like a light weight and get bigger to compete with less depth in competition (excluding the top couple kids / hammers in each weight. (Examples: Conley, fishback, shumate)The best freshman are the ones who place or win at the big boy weights, like Shumate. A well respected coach said the field is loaded with studs when you get around
Agreed the middle weights OFTEN are the toughest to compete in due to the amount of talent based on average size. But 125 has had quite a few hodge awards, and is also OFTEN the most competitive weight, 125 pounders coming from 106 112 119 125 High school elite.126-144 are toughest / deepest…learn to wrestle like a light weight and get bigger to compete with less depth in competition (excluding the top couple kids / hammers in each weight. (Examples: Conley, fishback, shumate)
Agree I would say that 126-157 are usually the toughest weights because most of the kids wrestling at those weights are only wrestling look at 165 and up many of those kids are playing football you will have your anomaly's like fishback and shumate.126-144 are toughest / deepest…learn to wrestle like a light weight and get bigger to compete with less depth in competition (excluding the top couple kids / hammers in each weight. (Examples: Conley, fishback, shumate)