arizonawildcat
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Kind of like a running clock in football routs.
This is correct, but unlike football and basketball where the clock stops a lot during normal game play. In soccer the clock does not stop as often so this really does not save much game time.In Ohio, a 6 goal lead in the second half starts a running clock.
This is correct, but unlike football and basketball where the clock stops a lot during normal game play. In soccer the clock does not stop as often so this really does not save much game time.
Ironic that after reading this thread, I stumbled upon an article published last night. Before I throw in my two cents, what is everyone else's thoughts?
I know I'll be in the minority, but I have few issues with this. Would I coach it, no. But, I've been on the losing and winning end of majorly lopsided games...I'd rather lose by this than be mercy-ruled OR play a 9-0 game with the second half be just "possession" for one team. I watched a Dayton-area game go to 12 (or 13) to 0, then possession where the losing team didn't even defend. Just stood there.Ironic that after reading this thread, I stumbled upon an article published last night. Before I throw in my two cents, what is everyone else's thoughts?
I know I'll be in the minority, but I have few issues with this. Would I coach it, no. But, I've been on the losing and winning end of majorly lopsided games...I'd rather lose by this than be mercy-ruled OR play a 9-0 game with the second half be just "possession" for one team. I watched a Dayton-area game go to 12 (or 13) to 0, then possession where the losing team didn't even defend. Just stood there.
Eh, yes and no. Games that are allowed to get out of hand like that can lead to a lot of pissy attitudes during the game. No one likes to get beat like that, period. And if the coach is allowing it, than that same attitude translates to his players. The unnecessary rubbing it in and acting like they really accomplished something when a kid scores his 10th goal of the game will eventually rub someone the wrong way, and since they can't retaliate with the score they will find another way, usually by hurting someone.I agree....some of these lopsided scores shouldn't happen and some of the coaches aren't doing enough to slow things down. I also believe most of those kids that were on the losing end of those games still went to school the next day and forgot about it as soon as the handshake line ended.
Yes....I am confident that the kids that lose in those situations:Eh, yes and no. Games that are allowed to get out of hand like that can lead to a lot of pissy attitudes during the game. No one likes to get beat like that, period. And if the coach is allowing it, than that same attitude translates to his players. The unnecessary rubbing it in and acting like they really accomplished something when a kid scores his 10th goal of the game will eventually rub someone the wrong way, and since they can't retaliate with the score they will find another way, usually by hurting someone.
And you really think that loss just disappears out of their heads the next day? I'm sure there is plenty to be said by other students that heard about it and when it's announced during the morning announcements. That animosity could, and many times does, bleed over into the following year/years if and when they play again.
Moral of the story is, there's no need for it.
There is a way to win and you're taught that, if you have good coaches and mentors, for a reason. I to have played on quite a few miserable teams and got beat down thoroughly. It didn't make me go home and cry in my pillow or complain to anyone, and thats not what I'm saying is happening with these kids either. It sucks, but you move on, and like you said, usually fairly quickly.Yes....I am confident that the kids that lose in those situations:
- knew it was coming in advance. Likely has happened several times this season already. They know their team isn't that good.
- moved on with their lives almost immediately. It's the adults that tend to make a bigger deal of it.
I'd agree that a single player shouldn't be scoring 10 goals in a game. I have seen many lopsided scores and thankfully the coach rearranges the lineup so that doesn't happen. But I don't think you should throttle back the JV players and limit their scoring opportunities either. They only get so many chances to score a varsity goal sometimes.
Where I have seen dirty play is when a team that is historically good is having an off year and get beat by several goals by someone they would have beat in the past. I remember one team where a senior that was party of the glory years was the last really good player on the team. It was tournament and they were losing 5-0 I think. He tried to start several fights because it was his last game. It got to the point where his own coach told him to walk off the field and he didn't even sub for him.
I remember losing badly in sports when I was in HS. There was no mockery in the halls or if there was it rolled off our backs. Maybe I was mentally tougher than most kids but I don't think that was the case.
"WE WERE FIRED UP"
25-0
BOARDMAN — The Boardman Spartans boys soccer team had only given up 18 goals on the season. Though they had only scored 29 on the season. They had six wins by shutout. Wednesday, they added another shutout and scored four fewer goals than they had all season. Yes. Four goals fewer than 29...www.vindy.com
Whenever I hear about mercy rules this game and this interview come to mind.
I get it and respect your opinion. As I said, a single player scoring that many isn't a good thing. The team I follow has had some lopsided wins in the past few years. They have been really good so you would expect it. The coach did, in my opinion, the right thing. Subbed liberally. Put offense on defense and vice versa. I remember one game I think the final score was 11-0. Sounds bad but I also remember like 10 different kids scoring and some of them were their only varsity goals that season.There is a way to win and you're taught that, if you have good coaches and mentors, for a reason. I to have played on quite a few miserable teams and got beat down thoroughly. It didn't make me go home and cry in my pillow or complain to anyone, and thats not what I'm saying is happening with these kids either. It sucks, but you move on, and like you said, usually fairly quickly.
What I am saying is that if you make a mockery of the game and your opponent, attitudes about the game change. It can quickly change from "one team is better than the other" to "these people or person thinks they are better than we or me". When that happens it no longer becomes about the game but the individuals. That's when bad things end up happening.
If a player was allowed to score 16 goals I can only imagine how that entire team acted during that game. If there was an added note that a fight broke out I wouldn't have been surprised in the slightest.
If I'm going to put actual thoight into this question I'm gonna say 2nd half. Halftime gave everyone a chance to digest what just happened. Now let's just sit and chill and hope this is over as quickly as possible. Cheering should continue though, because more than likely all the goals the rest of the way are by kids that have never scored. Celebrate that with them.I remember that one. I'm sure that 10-0 wouldn't have sent the same message.
On a side note: What's the over-under for goal diff in relation to when cowbells should stop? 6? 8? 1?
ZeroI remember that one. I'm sure that 10-0 wouldn't have sent the same message.
On a side note: What's the over-under for goal diff in relation to when cowbells should stop? 6? 8? 1?
I really don't need to say anything else regarding this topic, so I'll finish it here on my part...I hope.No excuse for anything over 10-0. There are many, many things you can do. First of all, when you are playing a team that is far inferior to you, you know that in advance. Bring up J.V. players is the first step. Secondly, start kids that have not started before.
Send it to the OSHAA so they can update it.From OHSAA Records Book - Total Goals scored in a Game
Can only assume these were lopsided games.
I remember Centerville had some crazy scores against teams. Although not listed here, my yearbooks confirm 1982, 21-0 over Springfield North and again 1984, 22-0.
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25 - Columbus St. Charles vs. Columbus Bishop Ready (10/02/1984)
24 - Duncan Falls Philo vs. Federal Hocking (9/17/2005)
24 - Mansfield Christian vs. Toledo Macomber (10/21/1985)
23 - New Carlisle Tecumseh vs. Urbana (09/08/2001)
23 - Ashland vs. Tiffin Columbian (1996)
22 - Vermillion vs. Sheffield Brookside (09/09/2004)
22 - Mentor vs. Garfield Heights (1983)
22 - Findlay vs. Toledo Rogers (1979)
20 - Dresden Tri-Valley vs. Zanesville Maysville (09/14/2004)
20 - Bluffton vs. Convoy Crestview (09/09/1999)
20 - North Olmsted vs. North Ridgeville (10/29/1981)
19 - Kettering Archbishop Alter vs. Trotwood-Madison (10/20/2001)
19 - Pleasant Hill Newton vs. New Madison Tri-Village (1983)
19 - North Olmsted vs. Fairview Park Fairview (10/16/1982)
18 - Campbell Memorial vs. Newton Falls (9/6/2018)
18 - New Albany vs. Amanda-Clearcreek (10/01/2002)
18 - Columbus Hamilton Township vs. Columbus West (09/21/2002)
18 - New Carlisle Tecumseh vs. Lewistown Indian Lake (09/11/2002)
18 - Kettering Archbishop Alter vs. Pleasant Hill Newton (10/24/1998)
18 - Columbus South vs. Columbus Marion Franklin (09/16/1997)
18 - Berlin Hiland vs. Wooster Triway (09/05/1991)
18 - North Olmsted vs. Cathedral Latin (11/01/1977)