Yappi Sports - THE Ohio Prep Sports Authority  

Go Back   Yappi Sports - THE Ohio Prep Sports Authority > Boys HS Sports > Football

Hello Guest!
Take a minute to register, It's 100% FREE! What are you waiting for?
Register Now
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 01-13-18, 11:50 PM
teach1coach2 teach1coach2 is offline
All Region
 
Join Date: 10-22-07
Location: Muskingum County
Posts: 435
teach1coach2 is on a distinguished road
school size

(Quote Bobcat QB)As of today, Cambridge would be the 6th largest school of 10 in MVL and would probably be 7th/8th this time next year. If that happens, I'd rather be in the B8 and playing St.C, UL, MF, and Bellaire than a "small" school division in MVL with New Lex, Morgan, West M and Crooksville..yuck.


http://education.ohio.gov/Topics/Dat...nrollment-Data

Crooksville Exempted Village (K through 12 by grade)
82 77 92 80 77 78 97 68 95 87 84 61 74

West Muskingum Local Muskingum
111 123 110 112 118 100 121 129 106 120 102 90 107

New Lexington School District Perry
134 130 129 137 145 131 148 121 132 143 151 110 126

Morgan Local Morgan
115 147 133 131 143 133 146 129 147 127 149 150 161

Cambridge City Guernsey
171 153 159 154 166 172 166 162 127 149 152 103 87


Doesn't look like Cambridge is smaller than those schools in the future.

Last edited by teach1coach2; 01-14-18 at 12:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 01-14-18, 12:04 AM
teach1coach2 teach1coach2 is offline
All Region
 
Join Date: 10-22-07
Location: Muskingum County
Posts: 435
teach1coach2 is on a distinguished road
Franklin Local Muskingum (Philo)
150 161 142 169 176 149 157 148 149 157 136 96 103

East Muskingum Local Muskingum (John Glenn)
170 155 144 179 194 166 185 152 163 178 169 110 122

Maysville Local Muskingum
160 177 169 185 183 163 172 164 179 169 168 137 130
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 01-14-18, 08:16 AM
doverbuck doverbuck is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-04-13
Posts: 565
doverbuck is on a distinguished road
Am I reading that correctly,Cambridge will drop to 152 then 103 and then 87? I really thought the Cambridge population would explode with the oil and gas,being at the intersection of I70 and 77 should make it a hub.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 01-14-18, 08:42 AM
BGFalcons86 BGFalcons86 is offline
All World
 
Join Date: 02-26-02
Location: Hilliard, OH 43026
Posts: 3,372
BGFalcons86 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by doverbuck View Post
Am I reading that correctly,Cambridge will drop to 152 then 103 and then 87? I really thought the Cambridge population would explode with the oil and gas,being at the intersection of I70 and 77 should make it a hub.
Actually, it is the reverse. 87 is the enrollment in the 12th grade. So, the lower grades in Cambridge actually have the higher enrollment. Bear in mind, though, these aren't predictive measures. These were *actual* enrollment numbers reported October 2016. So, if the energy boom draws families to the area, those numbers would go up across the board.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-14-18, 12:35 PM
doverbuck doverbuck is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-04-13
Posts: 565
doverbuck is on a distinguished road
Ok that makes sense,but the 10th 11th and especially the 12th grades stick out like sore thumbs, the city of Cambridge is about the same size as Dover,what happened 16-18 years ago that no one hardly had sex in Cambridge.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 01-14-18, 04:53 PM
BobcatQB BobcatQB is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-22-16
Posts: 127
BobcatQB is on a distinguished road
Cambridge city is only a little over 10,600 and shrinking, Dover almost 13,000 and growing. Most oil/gas growth is still east of us but suppossedly will be this way more over next several years.

Hope those figures hold Teach but this year was a record for lost due to open enrollment and until oil/gas comes back I don't see it changing. BG, if those numbers were predictive then I would assume they took into consideration the previous energy growth a few years ago..while we did gain a few because of it, we lost many more b/c of OE and many kids leaving again because energy dried up and they went back south.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 01-14-18, 05:51 PM
BGFalcons86 BGFalcons86 is offline
All World
 
Join Date: 02-26-02
Location: Hilliard, OH 43026
Posts: 3,372
BGFalcons86 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobcatQB View Post
BG, if those numbers were predictive then I would assume they took into consideration the previous energy growth a few years ago..while we did gain a few because of it, we lost many more b/c of OE and many kids leaving again because energy dried up and they went back south.
As I said, the numbers are NOT predictive. You could have 150-180 kids in grade 2, but by grade 10, it might be 100-120, if the econo in the area is such that young families leave for 'greener pastures', whether that is a district with OE or moving to Central Ohio to Dublin, Hilliard, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 01-14-18, 09:42 PM
teach1coach2 teach1coach2 is offline
All Region
 
Join Date: 10-22-07
Location: Muskingum County
Posts: 435
teach1coach2 is on a distinguished road
Who are the schools that Cambridge loses the most students to under Open Enrollment?
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 01-15-18, 10:22 AM
BobcatQB BobcatQB is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-22-16
Posts: 127
BobcatQB is on a distinguished road
Sorry BG, read it wrong.

Teach, Meadowbrook, JG and BT..don't know who gets more but I could find out for sure..I was just told this was a record year.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 01-17-18, 12:26 PM
Journey Journey is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-11-09
Posts: 1,610
Journey is on a distinguished road
You’d think Dover and Phila would be attractive schools to join a league, they bring huge crowds and are always worth a lot of harbin points
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 01-17-18, 12:57 PM
Raider6309 Raider6309 is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 04-12-15
Location: Athens
Posts: 1,483
Raider6309 is on a distinguished road
The big shake up is when Athens wants to make the TVC bigger. Marietta will leave the ECOL. Zanesville is already out the door with the new league with Logan.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 01-17-18, 02:17 PM
Quakerbacker Quakerbacker is offline
Junior Varsity
 
Join Date: 09-29-13
Posts: 27
Quakerbacker is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey View Post
You’d think Dover and Phila would be attractive schools to join a league, they bring huge crowds and are always worth a lot of harbin points
Both schools are also on I-77 so travel to our schools is not bad for most schools. I know both Phila and dover are picking up Louisville in some middle school schedules and look for it to only increase in the years to come throughout. I can see Phila, dover, Wooster, and Louisville in a league in the near future. Just not sure who else will want to come with us? Canton Central is the only other that makes total sense.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 01-17-18, 02:26 PM
BobcatQB BobcatQB is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-22-16
Posts: 127
BobcatQB is on a distinguished road
I like Marietta in the league but I doubt their exit would have more of an impact than Dover and NP. Marietta is the main reason Dover and NP want out..sick of that drive. If they left and Zville stayed maybe Dover/NP would stay..guess it's a moot point now that Zville is leaving anyway.

Journey, I don't understand why it's taken this long for D/NP to find a new home. Looking since Zville/Marietta got in. Always liked the league and want it to continue but we're spoiled being in the middle and having shorter drives. Just seems like everyone has given up for some reason.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 01-17-18, 02:27 PM
BobcatQB BobcatQB is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-22-16
Posts: 127
BobcatQB is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quakerbacker View Post
Both schools are also on I-77 so travel to our schools is not bad for most schools. I know both Phila and dover are picking up Louisville in some middle school schedules and look for it to only increase in the years to come throughout. I can see Phila, dover, Wooster, and Louisville in a league in the near future. Just not sure who else will want to come with us? Canton Central is the only other that makes total sense.
West Holmes?
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-17-18, 03:35 PM
Knights Watch Knights Watch is offline
Freshman
 
Join Date: 10-06-17
Posts: 7
Knights Watch is on a distinguished road
I doubt that West Holmes would ever leave the Cardinal Conference. But played Phila past few years and had some great crowds, and used to play Dover back about 10 years ago.

The old CC with Dover and New Phila in it was perfect back in the day.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 01-17-18, 03:42 PM
BobcatQB BobcatQB is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-22-16
Posts: 127
BobcatQB is on a distinguished road
didn't know WH was already in a league..just heard so much about them joining other leagues over the last year just like everyone else.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 01-17-18, 03:47 PM
Football 101 Football 101 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 10-20-10
Posts: 847
Football 101 is on a distinguished road
with all I read on here and other places

It seems there is a growing concern of programs being told to have cross overs or playing lopsided games (meaning enrollment disparities)

I am beginning to think maybe the "8" school league is not as "perfect" as it once was.

Maybe a 6 school league would benefit to allow more flexibility in the scheduling of football.

Play the back 5 in league - opens up games the first 5 weeks

Sounds like Dover/NewPhilly have Louisville as an interested party to the north...and maybe CCC???

thats 4 - 2 more and its a go - Wooster is mentioned? are they looking to change?

opinion is if you get 6....7 and 8 will come along eventually and knock on the door to get in.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 01-17-18, 03:56 PM
ECOLace ECOLace is online now
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-25-12
Posts: 660
ECOLace is on a distinguished road
The major issue is that Dover and New Philadelphia are outliers, they’re at least 30 minutes the Canton schools (more like an hour) and are too large for other schools in T-Coubty to compete.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 01-17-18, 10:25 PM
BGFalcons86 BGFalcons86 is offline
All World
 
Join Date: 02-26-02
Location: Hilliard, OH 43026
Posts: 3,372
BGFalcons86 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey View Post
You’d think Dover and Phila would be attractive schools to join a league, they bring huge crowds and are always worth a lot of harbin points
Time to get Dover, New Philadelphia and Louisville on the same page.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 01-18-18, 08:41 AM
styx styx is offline
All District
 
Join Date: 09-18-14
Posts: 239
styx is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ECOLace View Post
The major issue is that Dover and New Philadelphia are outliers, they’re at least 30 minutes the Canton schools (more like an hour) and are too large for other schools in T-Coubty to compete.
No IVCace. Claymont should be in a league with Dover and Phila but instead of accepting the challenge and getting better the last 20 years they decided to develop a woe is me mentality with every sport except wrestling. Enjoy those big IVC victories...
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 01-18-18, 09:00 AM
doverbuck doverbuck is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-04-13
Posts: 565
doverbuck is on a distinguished road
Cold hard facts are that no other schools exist close to Dover or phila that are looking to form a new league. The only hope I can see is Dover,phila,Louisville, and Steubenville. Would need 1 or ideally 2 more but who,I don't know. If not a league maybe these 4 could at least end the season by playing each other when spots are hard to fill for independents.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 01-18-18, 09:05 AM
Football 101 Football 101 is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 10-20-10
Posts: 847
Football 101 is on a distinguished road
doverbuck, what we know - Louisville, New Philly, Dover, CCC - no league or soon to have no league.

those four should form up a league. Yeah 4 teams. do it. Won't be long, others would come knocking - and if not finding 7 games is easier than finding 10 games.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 01-18-18, 12:06 PM
ECOLace ECOLace is online now
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-25-12
Posts: 660
ECOLace is on a distinguished road
Sounds like Styx is worked up about the fact that Dover can’t find a suitable league. Keep in mind it was Coshocton, Meadowbrook and Dover who pushed to move the ECOL to two teirs which forced Claymont to try and schedule week ten games with non-league opponents. The difference in enrollment between Claymont and Dover/New Philadelphia was larger when the new IVC was formed than the difference between Claymont and Newcomerstown. Competition and travel is way better for Claymont. Have fun trying to find a new league.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 01-18-18, 12:23 PM
Journey Journey is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-11-09
Posts: 1,610
Journey is on a distinguished road
I’m sorry but ‘the competition is better’ may be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. If by better you mean wayyyyy weaker and Claymont has a better chance at competing I’d buy that.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 01-18-18, 12:28 PM
dograt dograt is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-29-03
Location: Dayton
Posts: 582
dograt is on a distinguished road
OCC west- Sr High, Madison, Ashland, Lex, MV
OCC east- Dover, New Philly, West Holmes, Wooster, Louisville

4 league games and 1 crossover in weeks 6-10. schedule non-conf in 1-5. 4 and 5 would be tough, but you could always crossover unofficially during those weeks is 2 schools can't find a game.

poach Shelby and add CCC if you want. Make it 6 & 6.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 01-18-18, 12:32 PM
Quakerbacker Quakerbacker is offline
Junior Varsity
 
Join Date: 09-29-13
Posts: 27
Quakerbacker is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by dograt View Post
OCC west- Sr High, Madison, Ashland, Lex, MV
OCC east- Dover, New Philly, West Holmes, Wooster, Louisville

4 league games and 1 crossover in weeks 6-10. schedule non-conf in 1-5. 4 and 5 would be tough, but you could always crossover unofficially during those weeks is 2 schools can't find a game.
Where do we sign?
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 01-18-18, 12:37 PM
Journey Journey is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-11-09
Posts: 1,610
Journey is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobcatQB View Post
Just seems like everyone has given up for some reason.
I don’t know if that’s true.

Cardinal Conference is viable, maybe the Fed would be interested in Dover Phila and Louisville to join Lake and Green and go two tier again like they used to be, or maybe a new league with CCC Louisville Steubenville and someone NBC like a Canton South.

Dover and Phila come as a package and would Give a boost to any league, I’m sure the ADs are working on it.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 01-18-18, 12:40 PM
ECOLace ECOLace is online now
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 08-25-12
Posts: 660
ECOLace is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Journey View Post
I’m sorry but ‘the competition is better’ may be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. If by better you mean wayyyyy weaker and Claymont has a better chance at competing I’d buy that.
Compared to the two tiered ECOL the IVC competition is much better. Only Coshocton was consistently good in the small school ECOL, the IVC has 3 tremendous programs with Ridgewood, Garaway and IV and Tusky Valley is no slouch either.
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 01-18-18, 01:00 PM
dograt dograt is offline
All Ohio
 
Join Date: 09-29-03
Location: Dayton
Posts: 582
dograt is on a distinguished road
Clear Fork leaving the OCC has to be a pain for them. they have an odd number now, which means out of conference games every week. No AD wants to search for an OOC game week 7,8,9,10! Seems they would be open to something!
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 01-18-18, 01:08 PM
Journey Journey is offline
All American
 
Join Date: 11-11-09
Posts: 1,610
Journey is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by ECOLace View Post
Compared to the two tiered ECOL the IVC competition is much better. Only Coshocton was consistently good in the small school ECOL, the IVC has 3 tremendous programs with Ridgewood, Garaway and IV and Tusky Valley is no slouch either.
Coshocton has won more playoff games than the entire IVC south combined. And Tusky Valley is a slouch, has been since the Martini years. Garaway and Ridgewood are pretenders. Indian Valley is the only real football team in that league.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dover @ Zanesville doverbuck Football 27 10-17-17 07:30 AM
Dover vs. Steubenville valuska Football 176 10-07-17 10:48 PM
Dover at Tallmadge Updates doverbuck Football 163 09-24-17 12:46 AM
East at Dover doverbuck Football 83 09-16-17 07:54 PM
Lake 1-0 @ Dover 1-0 mrfootball Football 50 09-02-17 08:13 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:04 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Registration Booster - Powered By Dirt RIF CustUmz