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Old 04-13-18, 09:37 AM
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#1-O'Connell
#2-Fleming
#3-Schrand
#4-Wyant
#5-Minor
No particular order here.
AD wants Hamilton and GMC knowledge. None have Hamilton roots or past experience but think understanding of Hamilton is what is implied.
Don't think Moss, Martin, Gillespie, Kerr, or Gentry are options for different reasons.
OíConnell and Wyant are both out. And if itís true about Schrand and Minor that just leaves Fleming. Does Hamilton hire a first time head coach?
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Old 04-13-18, 09:42 AM
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Why isn't Steve Gentry a candidate? He's coached everywhere else in the Cincy area.
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Old 04-13-18, 10:19 AM
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Why isn't Steve Gentry a candidate? He's coached everywhere else in the Cincy area.
I don't think Gentry and his travelling road show/transfers that would come with him would be welcomed very warmly in Hamilton. That community wants Hamilton kids that have developed in the program representing them on the court.
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Old 04-13-18, 11:42 AM
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OíConnell and Wyant are both out. And if itís true about Schrand and Minor that just leaves Fleming. Does Hamilton hire a first time head coach?
I would think that Argentati (former HC at Badin and current HC at Northwest) would be in the mix for an interview likely. Would think Hamilton AD would have 6-8 interviews at least for the 1st round.
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Old 04-13-18, 09:32 PM
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OíConnell and Wyant are both out. And if itís true about Schrand and Minor that just leaves Fleming. Does Hamilton hire a first time head coach?
ok, good points, I doubt they hire a rookie.
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Old 04-13-18, 10:08 PM
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ok, good points, I doubt they hire a rookie.
So what direction do they go? Surprised no Hamilton insiders have anything to say.
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Old 04-14-18, 08:47 AM
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[QUOTE=RetiredCoach;7028061]So what direction do they go? Surprised no Hamilton insiders have anything to say.[/QUOTE

I think the people of Hamilton just want the best possible coach that applies. The circus we have had with the last 2 coaches at Hamilton we just want a good basketball coach. The inner VW circle of coaches has to go from freshman all the way up, clean house. I think none of VW guys should stay out with the old and in with the new.
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Old 04-14-18, 04:56 PM
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I will assume that the job posting by law has to be posted for 10 days before interviews begin. Like I said in my previous post all these names are SPECULATION.
Only Grimm knows who has applied and whom is being considered.
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Old 04-15-18, 07:51 AM
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I was told that the AD wants a coach with head coaching experience. That would seem to shorten the list somewhat.
I wonder about John Thomas at Edgewood. Was on Wooden's staff for a year or two at HHS before returning to Edgewood.
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Old 04-15-18, 10:45 AM
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Whoever gets the job will be walking into a very good situation. Roughly 50 points per game coming back. JV team was above average (I think) and I saw where the Freshman team had a really good season while winning the Freshman tourney at Fairfield. Not sure about the middle schools. Also, everyone seems to be pleased with the youth feeder system.
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Old 04-15-18, 12:38 PM
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Just a small rumor, but don't surprised if Kevin Higgins from Lebanon becomes a topic for discussion. He public stated that he would get out Lebanon if ECC fell thru. Knows the GMC and respected for his Bball knowledge.
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Old 04-15-18, 12:40 PM
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By the way, Lebanon's freshmen team went 21-1, but got beat by Hamilton by 40 !!!!
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Old 04-15-18, 02:21 PM
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Just a small rumor, but don't surprised if Kevin Higgins from Lebanon becomes a topic for discussion. He public stated that he would get out Lebanon if ECC fell thru. Knows the GMC and respected for his Bball knowledge.
Publicly stated? How so and to whom? Higgins isn't a terrible choice but I believe he has been at 3 schools over the past 9 years.

Perhaps the greatest case against him is his teams have averaged 51.65ppg over his 4 seasons in Lebanon. I'd love to see a coach in the GMC get the scoring up.
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Old 04-15-18, 04:00 PM
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Publicly stated? How so and to whom? Higgins isn't a terrible choice but I believe he has been at 3 schools over the past 9 years.

Perhaps the greatest case against him is his teams have averaged 51.65ppg over his 4 seasons in Lebanon. I'd love to see a coach in the GMC get the scoring up.
Lebanon beat Hamilton 63-55 this year with Higgins "moderate" scoring Warriors--pretty sure he could get Hamilton up into the 60's regularly--he coached Lebanon based on the talent offensively they had and played good defense-- a solid coach but has 15+ years in the public system so it would be a pay cut to leave Lebanon or Hamilton would spend a bunch to match those years.

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Old 04-15-18, 04:18 PM
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Lebanon had a lot of younger players with offensive limitations at the varsity level this year. Higgins did what he had to do offensively to be able to compete and win. If he were to find his way to Hamilton, I'd expect an offense with more freedom like the ball screen offense he ran with great tournament success at Colerain. Years credited and compensation may be major hurdles to him leaving Lebanon.

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Old 04-15-18, 04:30 PM
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Since they were mentioned on the Northmont search thread, Brett Kopp (Bethel) would be interesting here if he's all in on getting to a bigger school. Short but successful track record as a head coach, and a relatively younger teacher that would likely be an easier candidate to get in the building due to his intervention specialist credentials.

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Old 04-15-18, 09:16 PM
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Publicly stated? How so and to whom? Higgins isn't a terrible choice but I believe he has been at 3 schools over the past 9 years.

Perhaps the greatest case against him is his teams have averaged 51.65ppg over his 4 seasons in Lebanon. I'd love to see a coach in the GMC get the scoring up.
Lebanon actually ran an offense in the games that I watched them. Also, their big men were not exactly running the court as Karl Malone did.
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Old 04-15-18, 10:07 PM
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Lebanon actually ran an offense in the games that I watched them. Also, their big men were not exactly running the court as Karl Malone did.
What are you talking about?
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Old 04-16-18, 07:21 AM
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Speculation, Speculation, Speculation... until there is a list provided by the news paper or someone on here with an insider it is what it is. Hire the most qualified and someone with innovation. Hire a guy with the same characteristic as the guy before him is not going to change the scheme of how they will play. Most coaches only know how to coach one way, grind it out, 1 minute per possession! Speed the game up.
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Old 04-16-18, 07:43 AM
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Speculation, Speculation, Speculation... until there is a list provided by the news paper or someone on here with an insider it is what it is. Hire the most qualified and someone with innovation. Hire a guy with the same characteristic as the guy before him is not going to change the scheme of how they will play. Most coaches only know how to coach one way, grind it out, 1 minute per possession! Speed the game up.
So what is the point of the Speculation rant--Yappi is a forum for fans opinions/speculation/and insider info from being in the coaching profession--it's about sharing ideas and interest in the GMC and Hamilton in particular. I doubt that Grimm will put in the paper who is being interviewed--but we as followers of GMC basketball can espouse what we have heard/think about who would be a good "fit" for Hamilton going forward.

Time will tell
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Old 04-16-18, 10:38 AM
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My two cents, Big Blue better grab a coach who can get EVERYBODY to buy in. That's players, parents, and diverse community (like Colerain in football). This is more important than knowing the GMC or being a Hamilton guy.
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Old 04-16-18, 12:46 PM
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What's everyone's take on Jim Leon? Saw he just left Mariemont- he had success there despite not having a lot of talent. Also had coached at more urban Cincinnati schools so that might work in his favor coming into a district like Hamilton.
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Old 04-16-18, 02:24 PM
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Whoever gets the job will be walking into a very good situation. Roughly 50 points per game coming back. JV team was above average (I think) and I saw where the Freshman team had a really good season while winning the Freshman tourney at Fairfield. Not sure about the middle schools. Also, everyone seems to be pleased with the youth feeder system.


Just wondering as someone on the outside who doesn't really watch or follow any GMC basketball:

What's the biggest knock on VW? From this post it sounds like he had Hamilton headed in the right direction? However, it also seems that a lot of folks were chartering his bus to get him and his coaching staff out of town.

Just wondering.
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Old 04-16-18, 04:06 PM
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Just wondering as someone on the outside who doesn't really watch or follow any GMC basketball:

What's the biggest knock on VW? From this post it sounds like he had Hamilton headed in the right direction? However, it also seems that a lot of folks were chartering his bus to get him and his coaching staff out of town.

Just wondering.
He isn't a good coach
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Old 04-16-18, 05:27 PM
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He isn't a good coach
oh.
cleared that up for me.
thank you.

I just thought it was interesting that one poster wrote that it seems that the lower levels are loaded in in good shape... while others are running him out on a rail?
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Old 04-16-18, 06:14 PM
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Just looking at the GMC website Big Blue's last winning season was 2007.

Last couple years Hamilton's been hovering around 4th place or so -- not ideal but a lot better than the 4 or 5 win years from '08 - '13. He's also been behind some pretty good GMC teams right??

I don't know when he took over but it seems like VW has them around .500 while building up lower levels.

What are the expectations at Hamilton right now?
Did he walk out on his own or was he pressured by all knowing parents?

Again, just wondering about thoughts from Big Blue faithful.
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Old 04-16-18, 08:46 PM
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I saw West play quite a few times under VW. He inherited a pretty talented group of players, including an NFL Super bowl Champ, and maybe 4 scholarship basketball players.
Never thought he had them playing to their ability. Didn't see the Hamilton teams as much but he also walked into some pretty good players at HHS. Looked like more of the same in terms of playing below their ability. To his defense I've had a few people acknowledge his good work with the youth programs that were in poor shape.
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Old 04-17-18, 06:44 AM
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oh.
cleared that up for me.
thank you.

I just thought it was interesting that one poster wrote that it seems that the lower levels are loaded in in good shape... while others are running him out on a rail?
It really is as simple as that- he can do all the extraneous/rah rah stuff- lots of tweets, pick out cool uniforms, run camps, but he has no touch for coaching the game of basketball. He manages players poorly, wastes talent, doesn't create team unity, game plans are horrible, can't make adjustments and when things aren't going well, blames others. All of which leads to the conclusion- he's a bad coach.
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Old 04-17-18, 09:24 AM
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What has happened to Mike Noszka's star? Did it shine bright and fade just as quick? He was a finalist for St. X not too long ago and now he's not mentioned here or on the Lakota West thread.
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Old 04-17-18, 09:32 AM
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What has happened to Mike Noszka's star? Did it shine bright and fade just as quick? He was a finalist for St. X not too long ago and now he's not mentioned here or on the Lakota West thread.
If he put his name in for the Hamilton job they would be insane not to hire him.
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