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Old 07-20-18, 07:40 PM
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Too much lollygagging in the game today. Batters take too long to get in the box. Pitchers take too long to pitch. Too much tossing to first. Too much mound visiting. Compare the pace and flow of a game from a couple decades ago to today and you see why the game has dipped in popularity with younger demographics.

I don't think commercial breaks are a huge issue. There's only 2 minutes between half-innings. If that were cut down by half, it wouldn't even cut 20 minutes out of the gametime.


I keep hearing rumblings about making a rule against the shift. I think that's ridiculous. The players need to learn to hit away from it to make it pointless.
Now >33% of plate appearances end in a stroll to first or the dugout. That's boring as hell, and it comes from guys trying to lift the ball over the shift much of the time.

Properly used "shifts" are always accompanied specific pitch selection. If a guy is commanding a breaking ball for low strikes inside, it's pretty silly to expect the hitter to take it half way around the opposite side of second base
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Old 07-20-18, 07:45 PM
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My MLB changes

This is my idea of making the season more interesting without changing the way the game is played.

1 Expansion, this is not necessary but in my scenario expand to include 2 teams out west... some possible sites, Vegas, West Texas, Iowa, Albuquerque, Vancouver... or what not.....

no

2 Get rid of the Central division in both the National and Amercian League. REDS, Pirates, and Cubs get moved to the East with the Cards and Brewers to the west + 1 NL expansion team. With the AL, move KC and MN to the West with + 1 AL expansion team and the rest to the east. This leaves 8 teams in 2 divisions for each National and American Leagues.

no

3 No more NL vs AL games.... each team in the NL east plays the other 14 times and plays the west teams 7 times for a total of 162 games. The schedule is split in half for the first half and 2nd half of the season.

meh

4) Split season. winner of each league after 81 games qualify for the playoffs same with winners of the 2nd half. That is 2 teams in each division making the playoffs, now add the next team with the most wins overall in each division making 3 teams in each division qualifying.

hell no

5) The top overall record of each division gets a first round bye in the playoffs even if they did not win either half of the division... AKA Reds the last time they had a split season. The remaining 4 teams play a best 3 out of 5 series with the team with the best overall record hosting 3 of the games. Pairings will also be determined by overall records of teams...

you're getting crazy now....


6) This will keep more teams in the race longer and give other teams who may have been devastated early by either injury or something else and 2nd chance on the 2nd half of the season. Also, since the overall record counts it will also keep teams who have wrapped up a playoff spot still competing for first round byes and home games.

The schedules in each division will be balanced so no team will have an advantage over another in each division because of scheduling.

thoughts....
more harm than good here

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Swap Milwaukee and Cleveland
Move the Pirates to Vegas
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$75,000 to start for first year in majors....
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I keep hearing rumblings about making a rule against the shift. I think that's ridiculous. The players need to learn to hit away from it to make it pointless.
Agreed. Instead of making the players become better, some want to make a rule change to help out those that can't adjust.
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Old 07-20-18, 10:27 PM
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Nice troll post. What specifically about my post do you disagree with?
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Old 07-21-18, 07:27 AM
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So if we pay the players less, where should the extra money go?
Everything else would be less as well.

Take away the greed and prices come down.

so, are you a fan of greed?
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Old 07-21-18, 07:29 AM
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Explain?

Do you like 1 game deciding the winner of the wild card spot in which it takes 162 games to determine who plays in it?
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Old 07-21-18, 08:31 AM
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Explain?

Do you like 1 game deciding the winner of the wild card spot in which it takes 162 games to determine who plays in it?
I don’t like that, no.

As far as the one game playoff, 154 games and a short series makes more sense.

Not everyone likes an extended bye period, though. Hot players get cold. Pitchers break “rhythm”. It’s not always a reward.


There are a few situations in which a team with injured players return at full strength, but there are as many or more in which a team just goes south. How are you planning to keep a sure loser out ?
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Old 07-21-18, 08:34 AM
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Nice troll post. What specifically about my post do you disagree with?
Your attention deficit is not my problem. The game is the game. Either up your Ritalin dose or switch over to Cartoon Network
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Old 07-21-18, 10:12 AM
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Your attention deficit is not my problem. The game is the game. Either up your Ritalin dose or switch over to Cartoon Network
I have attention deficit because I can't sit down for 3 hours every single night to watch a baseball game? That might work for people like you who really have nothing going on in life, but for others it's not feasible.
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Old 07-21-18, 10:58 AM
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I don’t like that, no.

As far as the one game playoff, 154 games and a short series makes more sense.

Not everyone likes an extended bye period, though. Hot players get cold. Pitchers break “rhythm”. It’s not always a reward.


There are a few situations in which a team with injured players return at full strength, but there are as many or more in which a team just goes south. How are you planning to keep a sure loser out ?
down period, does not have to be. Inter team games could be played during the week off. It is just a little longer than the AS break we have now.

Split season makes the season more exciting in the 2nd half. Everyone is back in the race in game 82. It is like new life. At the end of the season you have the best overall teams in the playoffs as well as the hottest teams in the 2nd half of the season....

My scheduling suggestions could be changed to have NL vs AL games as well as eliminating expansion.....

think about it... can you dig it! I said, CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!!
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Old 07-21-18, 11:00 AM
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I just threw a number out there but it is just a base pay... the minimum. Bonuses for things as team games won and stats/performance would bump up the overall pay.
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Old 07-21-18, 12:16 PM
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Everything else would be less as well.

Take away the greed and prices come down.

so, are you a fan of greed?
You haven't adequately defined what greed is. Perhaps if you did, I could better give you my thoughts.

I don't think trying to maximize revenue is greed as you seem to. Things are priced at the amount people are willing to pay for them. If prices were truly "too high" they would come down. It's not a charity.
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Old 07-21-18, 01:57 PM
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You haven't adequately defined what greed is. Perhaps if you did, I could better give you my thoughts.

I don't think trying to maximize revenue is greed as you seem to. Things are priced at the amount people are willing to pay for them. If prices were truly "too high" they would come down. It's not a charity.
Company raises prices of their product by 15% claiming they need to pay their employees more but they only give a few of their employees a raise and that of only 2%. The few high ends pocket the additional 13%....

GREED: A selfish desire for wealth and power that is more than what one needs.
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Old 07-21-18, 02:07 PM
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GREED: A selfish desire for wealth and power that is more than what one needs.
Define "needs" - what is that figure in your mind?
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Old 07-21-18, 02:50 PM
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By that definition we're all greedy. We all have more than we "need".
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Old 07-21-18, 03:13 PM
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By that definition we're all greedy. We all have more than we "need".
well, not everyone but yes, we are mostly greedy. That is not my definition but the definition for Greed.
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Old 07-21-18, 04:56 PM
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ESPN+

Well, basically ESPN+ was ESPN3 which I got as part of my ESPN cable package. Now, ESPN+ has showed up and ESPN wants more $$$ for stuff I did not have to pay an additional fee for..... sure, ESPN3 still exists but just a skeleton of what is once was. No more CFL games on ESPN3, they have been moved to ESPN+ which you have to pay for.
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Old 07-21-18, 05:17 PM
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Define "needs" - what is that figure in your mind?
How many yachts can you water ski behind ?
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Old 07-21-18, 05:35 PM
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I just threw a number out there but it is just a base pay... the minimum. Bonuses for things as team games won and stats/performance would bump up the overall pay.
What vocation in this world pays it's top 0.05% 5 figures ? Parking valet ?

I realize that you are not a materialistic person because I've read your posts for years. I respect and even admire that. I understand that most things that cause inflationary pressure can be frustrating to some people.

These guys - even the weakest among them - are the best in the world, though. They themselves are generating a scintillating amount of money (even if it isn't growing at pace with NFL and NBA). They should have their share of it.
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Old 07-21-18, 05:38 PM
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I have attention deficit because I can't sit down for 3 hours every single night to watch a baseball game? That might work for people like you who really have nothing going on in life, but for others it's not feasible.
Boy ronnie's Big Life!! WoooHooo!!!





Seriously, though - so you're not a baseball fan, nor will you become any more than the most casual of fans, then. That's cool.


But then why would anyone care about your opinion on the subject ? Seriously.



My position is that the fundamental nature of baseball does not lend itself to growing it's fan base by "jacking up" the game. The best way is to get people to spend on the pro game is to encourage youth to play it. MLB is far too stupid to see that and too lazy to significantly invest in that. They may as well be run by Bob Taft, because they are mired in a caretaker mentality.

They only seem to spend on youth in the ghetto, and the reasons for that should probably be discussed in the Debate Forum. They should try to make suburban rec baseball cool.

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Old 07-21-18, 06:26 PM
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Ironically, weirdo's argument of "well you're not a baseball fan(which is actually untrue), so why should we care what you think?", is exactly what will slowly kill the sport. Yeah, let's not address issues that may help bring fans in or back in. Solid plan you have there.

I don't pay attention to baseball as much as I'd like because, IMO, the pacing sucks and the season is way too long. But go ahead and only listen to what the "traditionalists" have to say and watch the game slowly lose fans because they refuse to evolve or change in any way that may help it.
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Old 07-21-18, 06:35 PM
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ronnie's ADHD was so bad he couldn't even focus on the real solution when it was right in front of him. Poor kid only made it through one and a half lines before he tweaked out
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Old 07-21-18, 06:48 PM
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Old 07-23-18, 11:16 AM
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$75,000 to start for first year in majors....
You are clearly a socialist with all that GREED talk. Do the players make a ridiculous amount of money? Yes.

But if we are willing to pay exorbitant ticket prices, and TV networks are in bidding wars to pay incredibly high fees for rights to broadcast games, does all that money go to the owners? I would think that a socialist would want the players to get their fair share.

Simple capitalism sir. High demand and limited supply = high prices. If I have a unique skill set and someone is willing to pay me millions per year for that skill, should I turn it down?
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And cut the season down. 162 games is beyond overkill.
That's never going to happen. You cut TV time, revenue and ticket sales. Let alone all statistics would be different.
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My MLB changes

This is my idea of making the season more interesting without changing the way the game is played.

1 Expansion, this is not necessary but in my scenario expand to include 2 teams out west... some possible sites, Vegas, West Texas, Iowa, Albuquerque, Vancouver... or what not.....

2 Get rid of the Central division in both the National and Amercian League. REDS, Pirates, and Cubs get moved to the East with the Cards and Brewers to the west + 1 NL expansion team. With the AL, move KC and MN to the West with + 1 AL expansion team and the rest to the east. This leaves 8 teams in 2 divisions for each National and American Leagues.

3 No more NL vs AL games.... each team in the NL east plays the other 14 times and plays the west teams 7 times for a total of 162 games. The schedule is split in half for the first half and 2nd half of the season.

4) Split season. winner of each league after 81 games qualify for the playoffs same with winners of the 2nd half. That is 2 teams in each division making the playoffs, now add the next team with the most wins overall in each division making 3 teams in each division qualifying.

5) The top overall record of each division gets a first round bye in the playoffs even if they did not win either half of the division... AKA Reds the last time they had a split season. The remaining 4 teams play a best 3 out of 5 series with the team with the best overall record hosting 3 of the games. Pairings will also be determined by overall records of teams...

6) This will keep more teams in the race longer and give other teams who may have been devastated early by either injury or something else and 2nd chance on the 2nd half of the season. Also, since the overall record counts it will also keep teams who have wrapped up a playoff spot still competing for first round byes and home games.

The schedules in each division will be balanced so no team will have an advantage over another in each division because of scheduling.

thoughts....
Excellent and thought provoking...

I'm ok with expansion, there are more - better young baseball players today than ever before, it would be easy to add two or more teams.

My guess if anything, they'd split into 8 divisions over 6, like football. Being in "first place" in your division is a big deal.

If the DH gets adopted, than yes, you can have no divisional weighting, which would be good.

The split season makes alot of sense. It would be very transformative by baseball, because no other pro sports leagues do this. It's always been a minor league baseball thing.
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Interesting ideas from Vamps - personally I like interleague play so I'd leave that alone.some changes I'd like to see:

-DH or no DH, make it the same in both leagues, I'd prefer no DH but I think it should be uniform
-Play every opponent at least twice (home/away) in a 3-game series - ideally schedule would look like this for the Reds: one home/away 3-game series vs. every AL team (90 games), one home/away 3-game series vs. every NL opponent (30 games), remaining 42 games against division opponents
-No shift rule
-All replays done centrally at MLB HQ but review result is given on the scoreboard, don't take the umpires off the field, take 30 seconds and give the call in real time
-One mound visit per inning from players, one visit per inning from staff - 3 total visits per game - extended by one in extra innings (essentially a timeout)
-Enforce the pitch clock - punishable by batter with a strike, punishable to pitcher by a ball
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Interesting ideas from Vamps - personally I like interleague play so I'd leave that alone.some changes I'd like to see:

-DH or no DH, make it the same in both leagues, I'd prefer no DH but I think it should be uniform
-Play every opponent at least twice (home/away) in a 3-game series - ideally schedule would look like this for the Reds: one home/away 3-game series vs. every AL team (90 games), one home/away 3-game series vs. every NL opponent (30 games), remaining 42 games against division opponents
-No shift rule
-All replays done centrally at MLB HQ but review result is given on the scoreboard, don't take the umpires off the field, take 30 seconds and give the call in real time
-One mound visit per inning from players, one visit per inning from staff - 3 total visits per game - extended by one in extra innings (essentially a timeout)
-Enforce the pitch clock - punishable by batter with a strike, punishable to pitcher by a ball
I'd like the DH to be uniform, and there is no way they are going to do away with it. I'd rather not have the DH, but the union would not allow 15+ jobs to go away.

Can't have a no shift rule, I just think that's part of the game. Learn how to hit the other way if necessary.

Not sure how you enforce the pitch clock. Batters are going to step out, pitchers step off. Cat and mouse, it's part of the game.
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