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View Poll Results: Was Tony Jameson Pinned?
Yes 31 81.58%
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Old 08-06-18, 08:56 PM
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Was Tony Jameson Pinned?

It is time to end the debate that has been tearing families apart for a decade. Was Tony Jameson pinned or was the correct call made?
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Old 08-06-18, 08:57 PM
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Old 08-07-18, 03:45 AM
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Old 08-07-18, 07:07 AM
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Pinned no question
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Old 08-07-18, 07:18 AM
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Maybe
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Old 08-07-18, 07:39 AM
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Only a handful of people mat side will know.

People in the stands at The Schott did not have a better view than those next to the mat, and especially the referee.
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Old 08-07-18, 07:44 AM
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If I remember correctly, Coach McCoy (Elder) was matside as he had a guy on deck. I'm interested in his opinion.
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Old 08-07-18, 07:51 AM
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Are we talking HS "2-count" pin, or collegiate "his scapula made a shadow on the mat so he was pinned" pin?
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Old 08-07-18, 09:21 AM
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I was mat side.
I believe he was initially pinned, but the referee knew the pressure of the call and repeatedly checked the shoulders (one at a time, over and over) more than he needed to, allowing Jameson to create space off the mat. By then, time expired to end the period. I don't believe it was intentional, but just wanted to be very sure with such a huge decision to make.

There is a video on the internet somewhere.
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Old 08-07-18, 09:46 AM
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Better question is why does Wrestling125 have such a longstanding, deep-seated, creepy obsession or vendetta against one of Ohio's great wrestlers?
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Old 08-07-18, 09:46 AM
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https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5091459
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Old 08-07-18, 11:05 AM
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Bladed!!! Couple of times
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Old 08-07-18, 12:52 PM
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He was pinned, it was not called. We have all been there. That's wrestling.
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Old 08-07-18, 12:56 PM
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Simple answer....what did the ref call. If he slapped the mat, it was a pin. If he did not, then he was not pinned. End of story
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Old 08-07-18, 01:24 PM
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Who?
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Old 08-07-18, 01:30 PM
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Old 08-07-18, 07:37 PM
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Let’s face it.......He was protected by the refs his whole HS career, thus the 4 state Titles. I suffered thru 4 years of misery due to my sons failures via the refs constantly making calls against him......He continues to be a disappointment to the entire family to this day.....”Dad I got promoted to Vice President of the Accounting Firm”, first loser is all that is.....
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Old 08-07-18, 08:04 PM
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This is the video i got from that link D3 Nathan Jones, Troy Christian v Stuart Miller, Delphos Jefferson
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Old 08-07-18, 09:16 PM
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Let’s face it.......He was protected by the refs his whole HS career, thus the 4 state Titles. I suffered thru 4 years of misery due to my sons failures via the refs constantly making calls against him......He continues to be a disappointment to the entire family to this day.....”Dad I got promoted to Vice President of the Accounting Firm”, first loser is all that is.....
I bet your son has an awesome pocket protector.
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Old 08-07-18, 09:24 PM
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Why yes he does.....Good guess.
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Old 08-08-18, 07:09 AM
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I have analyzed this video more than the Zapruder film over the last 10 years. When Rudy slapped the headlock in, Tony was flat. I believed it in the Schott that day, and everyday since then.
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Old 08-08-18, 08:16 AM
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This is the video i got from that link D3 Nathan Jones, Troy Christian v Stuart Miller, Delphos Jefferson
weird..... I watched then copied link. But I do notice its incorrect, correct one below.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5...n-bowling-gree
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Old 08-08-18, 08:20 AM
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What match was he wrestling when this happened?
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Old 08-08-18, 09:12 AM
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First round I believe against Rudy Hendon of BG
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Old 08-08-18, 09:47 AM
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It was Hendon. I don't remember it being first round?
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Old 08-08-18, 10:15 AM
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Only a handful of people mat side will know.

People in the stands at The Schott did not have a better view than those next to the mat, and especially the referee.
"View" has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Bias on the other hand..... Or possibly fear or lack of courage.

Jamison was most definitely stuck.

Refs are human and they are just as susceptible to error or emotion as everyone else.

That ref blew that call(s) during that match.

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Old 08-08-18, 02:03 PM
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Let’s face it.......He was protected by the refs his whole HS career, thus the 4 state Titles. I suffered thru 4 years of misery due to my sons failures via the refs constantly making calls against him......He continues to be a disappointment to the entire family to this day.....”Dad I got promoted to Vice President of the Accounting Firm”, first loser is all that is.....
Counseling Needed here!
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Old 08-08-18, 02:21 PM
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weird..... I watched then copied link. But I do notice its incorrect, correct one below.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/5...n-bowling-gree
PROPS to these refs for allowing two warriors to duke it out! we need to bring this mentality back!
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Old 08-08-18, 04:50 PM
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I was down on the floor waiting with my my guy on deck, didn’t look pinned then - years later I talked to dad of the official who did the match - and he said the other wrestler had his hand stuck underneath during the situation when he was almost pin - I have never thought he was pinned. I think a lot of people wanted the call for the drama of having him lose out on being a 4timer.
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Old 08-08-18, 06:16 PM
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Praying that the effected families can begin to heal.
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