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Old 02-06-18, 11:37 AM
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14red thinks no one should ask why Butler didnít play.
No, they asked, Bill gave them an answer, end of story. Now you can criticize Bill for the decision to sit him, but he's the coach. He's done this for awhile and is pretty good at it. Kinda sounds like Butler wasn't a very good boy last week, coach sat him. I applaud that. Patriots had every chance to win that game.
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Old 02-06-18, 01:31 PM
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No, they asked, Bill gave them an answer, end of story. Now you can criticize Bill for the decision to sit him, but he's the coach. He's done this for awhile and is pretty good at it. Kinda sounds like Butler wasn't a very good boy last week, coach sat him. I applaud that. Patriots had every chance to win that game.
So you applaud the coach benching the player for disciplinary reasons, and think the media should just drop the questions when the coach isn't honest and says the player wasn't benched for disciplinary reasons? Sounds about right.
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Old 02-06-18, 01:42 PM
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So you applaud the coach benching the player for disciplinary reasons, and think the media should just drop the questions when the coach isn't honest and says the player wasn't benched for disciplinary reasons? Sounds about right.
A coach can't win in this situation with the media ... tell the truth, and he is throwing the player under the bus ... lie and he is being deceptive ... either way the media will crucify him ... but I agree it is stupid to think that they will stop digging just because the coach said something ... therefore it is over ... not going to happen.

I also do applaud BB for benching him and sticking to his standards ... good coaches do ... there is a reason why he has been to sooo many Super Bowls ... because NE players know that what he says is gold ... therefore they do what he tells them or they are gone ... listen to any former NE player .... they all say it is different there ... everybody does what they are suppose to do ... that is why they win so much.
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Old 02-06-18, 01:58 PM
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So you applaud the coach benching the player for disciplinary reasons, and think the media should just drop the questions when the coach isn't honest and says the player wasn't benched for disciplinary reasons? Sounds about right.
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Old 02-06-18, 03:44 PM
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No, they asked, Bill gave them an answer, end of story. Now you can criticize Bill for the decision to sit him, but he's the coach. He's done this for awhile and is pretty good at it. Kinda sounds like Butler wasn't a very good boy last week, coach sat him. I applaud that. Patriots had every chance to win that game.
Good Jesus, are you serious? No, it's the BEGINNING of the story, a story that Belichick himself created with, A) the benching of Butler in the first place, and B) refusing to be forthcoming when asked why.

Belichick openly loathes the media and all he did was give them a chance to pounce on his coaching decisions. Karma. He gave not just the Boston media, but the national media, a fresh story they can feast on for days.
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Old 02-06-18, 03:48 PM
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Is the Patriots a public team? Do we pay them with tax dollars? If it's no, then that means it's a private business and they don't have to tell you jack sht.
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Old 02-06-18, 05:06 PM
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Is the Patriots a public team? Do we pay them with tax dollars? If it's no, then that means it's a private business and they don't have to tell you jack sht.
No, the Patriots, um, is not a "public team." But, the NFL does require that coaches speak to the media before and after the Super Bowl. Knowing that, Belichick chose to give vague answers to a specific decision he made that could have had a real impact on the outcome of the game. He only did so before the largest throng of media assembled at the biggest annual sporting event of the year. An honest answer would have sport-circuited the news cycle. Instead, he created one that lasted far longer than it should have had he only been up front.
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Old 02-06-18, 05:39 PM
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No, the Patriots, um, is not a "public team." But, the NFL does require that coaches speak to the media before and after the Super Bowl. Knowing that, Belichick chose to give vague answers to a specific decision he made that could have had a real impact on the outcome of the game. He only did so before the largest throng of media assembled at the biggest annual sporting event of the year. An honest answer would have sport-circuited the news cycle. Instead, he created one that lasted far longer than it should have had he only been up front.
Here is the list of people that don't care.

The Krafts
Bill

So, now what?
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Old 02-06-18, 05:40 PM
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Yeah coaches decisions have real impacts on games. This isn't on Bill, this is on the player who let his team mates down. Be angry at him.
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Old 02-06-18, 05:53 PM
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Yeah coaches decisions have real impacts on games. This isn't on Bill, this is on the player who let his team mates down. Be angry at him.
Exactly! If you know the rules ... then its your fault if you don't follow them ... especially in Super Bowl week.
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Old 02-06-18, 06:15 PM
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From most reports Butler was sick and unable to practice. If they didn't feel he'd be able to execute whatever they practiced doing to stop Philly, then it's the correct call to sit him.

That said, it's a little odd that after their DB's started getting torched all over the field they didn't try and sub in the guy who started for them the entire year, but Billy B has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt at this point.

It should also be noted not many defensive backfields could have done anything with as little pass rush as the Pats were getting.
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Old 02-06-18, 08:14 PM
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From most reports Butler was sick and unable to practice. If they didn't feel he'd be able to execute whatever they practiced doing to stop Philly, then it's the correct call to sit him.

That said, it's a little odd that after their DB's started getting torched all over the field they didn't try and sub in the guy who started for them the entire year, but Billy B has certainly earned the benefit of the doubt at this point.

It should also be noted not many defensive backfields could have done anything with as little pass rush as the Pats were getting.
I agree ... but to me if he was sick BB would given him some chance to show what he could do ... it has to something more (IMO)
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Old 02-08-18, 12:17 AM
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Exactly! If you know the rules ... then its your fault if you don't follow them ... especially in Super Bowl week.
Just saw report that a failed drug test may have been the issue.
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