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Old 07-11-17, 12:26 PM
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Thanks for taking this task on.
You're welcome. Thank you for the info on Dublin Coffman's state meet qualifiers. Every little bit helps.

I'm just working with the scraps I've been able to dig up. You'd be surprised how much stuff one can find with a free 7-day trial membership to one of those sites that have online newspaper archives. It's tedious but a lot of fun when you find new information, just like genealogy research.

Originally, I was keying info directly from the site into my files (which was taking too long) before I wised up and started downloading results summaries and articles onto my PC. I would guess that I copied and pasted somewhere b/w 700 and 800 clippings during that trial period. I'm still not 100% sure of what I have and still need (the clippings all look the same after awhile), but it's certainly a great supplement to what is available on the OHSAA's site.
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You're welcome. Thank you for the info on Dublin Coffman's state meet qualifiers. Every little bit helps.

I'm just working with the scraps I've been able to dig up. You'd be surprised how much stuff one can find with a free 7-day trial membership to one of those sites that have online newspaper archives. It's tedious but a lot of fun when you find new information, just like genealogy research.

Originally, I was keying info directly from the site into my files (which was taking too long) before I wised up and started downloading results summaries and articles onto my PC. I would guess that I copied and pasted somewhere b/w 700 and 800 clippings during that trial period. I'm still not 100% sure of what I have and still need (the clippings all look the same after awhile), but it's certainly a great supplement to what is available on the OHSAA's site.
It's really tough work. I know that a couple years ago we started looking for FAT times for athletes with hand times in our top 5 all time lists. And we started looking just for mistakes. It meant a lot of time spent at the library for me (I love the main branch of the Columbus library and it is a short jog from my house.) looking up results. And I only had to do it for one school.
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Old 07-13-17, 01:29 AM
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Update:

A Lancaster Fisher Catholic girls 400m qualifier is discovered, and the Lady Irish have thus completed the set. We'll see what turns up later today. The good news is I'm nearly done with the Akron paper clippings from '75-'00 and can then start to pay attention to a different part of the state.

How do track results for Fisher Catholic end up in the Akron paper? There were a handful of years when many of the DIII teams from NEO competed with the DIII teams from Central OH in a regional meet held at Mansfield. Ironically, no NWO teams were involved in some of these meets.

A 400m runner for the Pemberville Eastwood boys has been found, so the Eagles have completed the set.

Throw the Sandusky St. Mary CC girls on the "everything but the pole vault" pile.

Add Smithville boys to the list of teams that have completed the set.

Toledo Whitmer girls are in for all 17 events.

Cleveland Heights boys are in for all 17 events.

Brunswick boys are in for all 17 events.

Columbiana boys are in for all 17 events.

Findlay Liberty-Benton boys are in for all 17 events.

Twinsburg and Lakewood St. Edward boys are in for all 17 events.

A few more teams are ever so close, and I have yet to even look at the full list of boys state meet results from '01-'10! Still plenty of regional results left to examine as well.

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Old 07-17-17, 10:27 AM
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We're still rolling along with this project with plenty more material still to be examined.

Add Cleveland Benedictine, Euclid, and Painesville Harvey to the boys list, but the most significant update is that North Robinson Colonel Crawford joins the list of schools to have completed the set for both genders.

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Old 07-19-17, 09:42 AM
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Update: I have SVSM boys in for all events except the pole vault. I have yet to look at anything before 1975, but I don't expect to find a pole vaulter from SVSM or either of its 2 ancestor schools. Anything is possible though. I don't know that SVSM was much of a track school before Dan Lancianese. SVSM has always been good at football and basketball, but many of their better athletes played baseball in the spring back in the '70s and '80s.
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Old 07-19-17, 03:32 PM
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Minster girls have qualified in everything; including defunct events like the medley relay and the 80yd. low hurdles. They probably would've qualified in the softball toss if that event had ever made it into the postseason tournament program.

I'm going to bet McDonald boys and girls have qualified in everything except the pole vault, but I don't know for sure.

The East Canton boys have qualified in every event. If nothing else, Joe Bradley won the 100, 200, and 400 in '81. Josh Conrad was 2nd in the 800 last year and was All-Ohio in the 1600 his freshman year. Nick Dysle was All-Ohio in the 3200 a couple times in the mid '00s. All 4 of their relays qualified this year as well as entrants in both hurdle events, and the LJ and HJ. Cody Marshall won the PV in 2010. Chane Cline won the shot put in '96. Freshly crowned NCAA DII champ Duke Taylor was 2nd in the discus in 2012.

The East Canton girls may have also accomplished this feat; including the pole vault. Only event I can't find for them so far is LJ, but they may have had a qualifier pre-2001 who didn't score. I'd kill to get my hands on all the prelim results pre-2001.

The St. Thomas Aquinas boys have definitely qualified in every event except maybe the 300m hurdles. Their school record in that event is above 40 seconds which means it's possible but somewhat unlikely.

The St. Thomas Aquinas girls have definitely qualified in every event except maybe the throwing events. Their school records in the girls throws make it less likely that they had a state qualifier, but it might have happened.

Keep 'em coming.
STA definitely didn't have any throwers lol
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Still chipping away at this project after a few days of being away.

Add Elyria boys to the fray.

Hopefully, more teams will follow shortly.

Cleveland St. Ignatius boys are finally in, and Toledo Whitmer boys are also in. Whitmer girls were already in, so that makes another team to have completed the set for both genders. A boy long jumper is finally located to move CVCA boys onto the list. CVCA girls are already on the list, so CVCA makes the short list of teams to have made all events for both genders.

A girls 400 runner is finally located, so Findlay Liberty-Benton makes the list for both genders.

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With another fresh batch of state qualifiers to sift through (not to mention the mountain of old district/regional results I still haven't examined), we'll get this thread back up and running.

I'm slowly working my way through the qualifiers for this weekend, but I can already tell you that both the Walsh Jesuit and Pickerington Central boys have joined the list.

Centerville boys are in.

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Old 05-29-18, 10:52 AM
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Saving us some research, this site shows state championships, by school, by event.

http://ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Tr...pionsEvent.pdf

The first one that jumps out is Akron Buchtel with champions in 13 of the 17 events.

Cleveland East Tech also has 13 events (counting the Discus in 1920). Glenville has 14 events (1600 in '26).

Dayton Jefferson 13 events. I don't see any boys teams with more than 13 different events.

On the girls side I see Collingwood with 11, Beaumont with 13, Minster with 12.

http://ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Tr...pionsEvent.pdf
Buchtel got bumped up to D1 in 2008 (returned to D2 in 2010) the year Terrance Sommerville won the 110 hurdles, he also placed in the 300 hurdles and the long jump that year. The time and distance in those two events would have won the title in D2, which would have given Buchtel State champs in 15 out of 17 events (Akron Public Schools do not compete in the Pole Vault), which would have left the 1600 as their only event they still compete in not to have crowned a State Champ!

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Old 05-29-18, 12:09 PM
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Saving us some research, this site shows state championships, by school, by event.

http://ohsaa.org/Portals/0/Sports/Tr...pionsEvent.pdf
Frankly, I don't trust OHSAA researchers. I only checked one school, Cincinnati La Salle, and they have us winning the discus in 2015. Never happened.
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Frankly, I don't trust OHSAA researchers. I only checked one school, Cincinnati La Salle, and they have us winning the discus in 2015. Never happened.
They correctly have St. Ed's winning it in 2015 too. I thought maybe it should have been 1915 and somebody messed up the century, but they have Salem winning the event in 1915.
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Old 05-29-18, 01:12 PM
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Frankly, I don't trust OHSAA researchers. I only checked one school, Cincinnati La Salle, and they have us winning the discus in 2015. Never happened.


I checked just one school, Dublin Coffman, and they missed a state title (girls 200).
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They correctly have St. Ed's winning it in 2015 too. I thought maybe it should have been 1915 and somebody messed up the century, but they have Salem winning the event in 1915.
La Salle fielded its first track & field team in 1963
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Granville HS, Jim Alexander 1969 2 Mile 9:42.7 Champion was missed.
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La Salle fielded its first track & field team in 1963
Thank your lucky stars that I'm digging a little deeper than that. Either regional results or the prelim heat sheets are the best source for this. State prelim results aren't perfect due to kids who drop events and therefore aren't listed in the results.


St. Ed's didn't open until about 1954, IIRC.

They credited my school with a HJ champion from 1914, but I sent Tim Stried an e-mail 2 falls ago, and they eventually made the correction. The problem was Canton's original HS was called Canton Central, so that created some confusion. When the original Canton McKinley HS opened in 1918, Canton Central was demoted to being a jr. high. It was then torn down in the late '30s and was replaced by Timken Vocational HS. Timken Vocational was renamed Timken Senior in 1976 when Canton went from 4 HSs to 2 (Lehman and Lincoln closed. Lehman was an XC powerhouse in the late '60s and early '70s. Lincoln is the alma mater of '68 AA mile champ and future 800m Olympic Gold Medalist Dave Wottle.)

The OHSAA also once omitted 1 of the years that my school's boys XC team made state and forgot to indicate 1 of the years when our boys golf team finished 2nd (that's happened like 8 times, so very easy to miss one). We took a photo of the silver trophy in the trophy case, and submitted that.

All of those errors were eventually corrected after I e-mailed Tim Stried and could provide reliable documentation. Like I said, we sent a pic of the golf trophy, and I provided a link to the state XC results for the year that was omitted. The high jumper was easiest of all because my school didn't exist until 1945. Even my HS's ancestor school didn't exist until 1926.


Incidentally, add the Millersburg West Holmes boys to the list.

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Old 05-30-18, 09:27 AM
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Hilliard Davidson (Hilliard HS prior to 1997) - All but 400m
100 - 3
200 - 2
400 - 0
800 - 5 (2 state titles: Scott Rider '76, '78..current OSU 800m record holder)
1600 - 8
3200 - 7
4x1 - 3
4x2 - 2
4x4 - 6
4x8 - 5
110H - 1
300H - 2
PV - 3
Discus - 3 (*Pete Miller, National Record Holder, 1967)
Shot - 3
HJ - 6
LJ - 2

Hilliard Darby (1997-Present) - All but 400m and LJ
100 - 2
200 - 2
400 - 0
800 - 2 (Defending state champion, Malachi McGill)
1600 - 4
3200 - 2
4x1 - 2
4x2 - 3
4x4 - 1
4x8 -2
110H - 4
300H - 6 (2009 state champion, Jordan Rispress)
PV - 1
Discus - 2
Shot - 1
HJ - 3
LJ - 0

Hilliard Bradley (2009-Present) Missing 400, 800, 1600, 4x8, all field
100 - 1
200 - 1
400 - 0
800 - 0
1600 - 0

3200 - 1
4x1 - 1
4x2 - 1
4x4 - 1
4x8 - 0
110H - 2
300H - 1
PV - 0
Discus - 0
Shot - 0
HJ - 0
LJ - 0


Interesting that there has never been a 400m qualifier in Hilliard track history. Going to check through the archives and see if Scott Rider happened to qualify for the 400/440 back in the day. He still holds the Hilliard (Davidson) program record in the 400.
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Old 05-30-18, 10:17 AM
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...Interesting that there has never been a 400m qualifier in Hilliard track history. Going to check through the archives and see if Scott Rider happened to qualify for the 400/440 back in the day. He still holds the Hilliard (Davidson) program record in the 400.
Your findings for Davidson and Bradley agree with mine. I haven't examined much older stuff, but I haven't found a 400m qualifier yet for Davidson. I am only lacking a LJ qualifier for Darby. Darby does have a 400 qualifier. Roger Blake qualified in 2000 and was 15th place in 51.21. A special thanks to JAVMAN for pointing me in the direction of the 2000 state meet results which included the prelims.
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Mentor girls are in. Brunswick girls are also in which moves Brunswick onto the list of schools that are in for both genders.

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Quick question for retired events. Would you consider i.e. 120 hurdles as one for the current 110?
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Quick question for retired events. Would you consider i.e. 120 hurdles as one for the current 110?
Yes, I have been counting them if the retired event is comparable to anything currently in the meet program.
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Your findings for Davidson and Bradley agree with mine. I haven't examined much older stuff, but I haven't found a 400m qualifier yet for Davidson. I am only lacking a LJ qualifier for Darby. Darby does have a 400 qualifier. Roger Blake qualified in 2000 and was 15th place in 51.21. A special thanks to JAVMAN for pointing me in the direction of the 2000 state meet results which included the prelims.
Yup! I just found that as well. I will keep asking around and digging for a quarter miler from the past.
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St. Ed's didn't open until about 1954, IIRC.
I believe 1949. My uncle and godfather was in the first graduating class in 1953. My dad in 1958.
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Hilliard Davidson (Hilliard HS prior to 1997) - All but shot and discus
100 - 4
200 - 3
400 - 1
800 - 5 ('13 State Champ, Jessica Hoover)
1600 - 14
3200 - 11 (2x State Champion India Johnson '16-'17)
4x1 - 1
4x2 - 1
4x4 - 2
4x8 - 14 (01-03, 06, 08-11, 13-Present)!!!!!!
110H - 4 (09 State Champ, Brittany Cheese. 4x State Placer)
300H - 1
PV - 5 (2002 State Champion, Randi Stephens..Inaugural event champion)
Discus - 0
Shot - 0

HJ - 3
LJ - 6

Hilliard Darby (1997-Present) - Missing 200, PV, and HJ
100 - 1
200 - 0
400 - 1
800 - 1
1600 - 1
3200 - 4
4x1 - 2
4x2 - 4
4x4 - 2
4x8 - 1
110H - 3
300H - 4
PV - 0
Discus - 6
Shot - 2
HJ - 0
LJ - 11 (2004 State Champ, Chaquerra Allen)

Hilliard Bradley (2009-Present).... One relay qualification only.
100 - 0
200 - 0
400 - 0
800 - 0
1600 - 0
3200 - 0
4x1 - 1 (2011)
4x2 - 0
4x4 - 0
4x8 - 0
110H - 0
300H - 0
PV - 0
Discus - 0
Shot - 0
HJ - 0
LJ - 0
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Yes, I have been counting them if the retired event is comparable to anything currently in the meet program.
Thanks. Now the question is what do I do with the 180 hurdles
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Thanks. Now the question is what do I do with the 180 hurdles
That one I left alone since it bears no resemblance to the 300H in either the distance or the hurdle height (I don't know what the height was, but I've seen pics, and those suckers were low!).

I would just acknowledge that the event existed and acknowledge that your school had a qualifier in the event, but it isn't a viable substitute for the 300H, IMHO.
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Yup! I just found that as well. I will keep asking around and digging for a quarter miler from the past.
I misread my file. Davidson got one in 2013. Josiah Bernard, 12th place, 50.45.

Add their boys to the list.
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That one I left alone since it bears no resemblance to the 300H in either the distance or the hurdle height (I don't know what the height was, but I've seen pics, and those suckers were low!).

I would just acknowledge that the event existed and acknowledge that your school had a qualifier in the event, but it isn't a viable substitute for the 300H, IMHO.
The 180 low hurdles event (30") started in 1951. It was changed to 300 low hurdles in 1978 still at 30". In 1987 the event was changed to the 300 intermediate hurdles with the height at 36". I competed when the 180 yard low hurdles was the standard event, and I swear that the height was 30". Believe it or not but I once measured the height and found the standard hurdle to be that in the down position. When you flipped it up, it was 39" for the highs.
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Medina Highland girls are out. I was able to find additional info to indicate that the shot putter from Highland was from the other Highland HS (Sparta/Marengo).
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I misread my file. Davidson got one in 2013. Josiah Bernard, 12th place, 50.45.

Add their boys to the list.
Man, I don't know how I missed that either! Good catch.
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Thanks to SWOTCCA, OHSAA data base for state results and Lancer I think I have enough to say Anderson is short by a couple of events.

SP: 1
Disc: 2
PV: 3 (two state champs)
HJ: 1
LJ: 3 (one state champ)

100: zero
200: zero
400: 4
110H: 1 (120h in 1952. Jackson finished second and anderson missed title by fraction of a point)
300H: zero
800: 4
1600: 6 (including milers)
3200: 2
400r: 1
800r: 1 (1 state champ 880y relay 1952)
1600r: 5
3200r: 1


PS, Wendall Jackson 1952 180h champion. No comparable event to list this under.

This was a wonderful trip down memory lane for me and finding more information than I expected. My appreciation for Wendall Jackson has grown ten fold. 3 state titles and 5 trips to state in total between 1950-52.
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