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Old 04-12-13, 02:03 PM
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Reporting MT as FAT

It always amazes me how many meets we see in online results looking like FAT results when the timing is manual. I just saw Madeira results on baumspage looking like FAT. I then talked to the AD who admitted it was not FAT. This happens all too often.
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Old 04-13-13, 03:39 PM
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It always amazes me how many meets we see in online results looking like FAT results when the timing is manual. I just saw Madeira results on baumspage looking like FAT. I then talked to the AD who admitted it was not FAT. This happens all too often.
I guess everyone doesn't have money to have FAT. They just report the times they record. Don't think they are trying to fool anyone.
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Old 04-13-13, 06:26 PM
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I guess everyone doesn't have money to have FAT. They just report the times they record. Don't think they are trying to fool anyone.
But there are standard procedures to follow if a meet is hand timed, such as round the time one runs up to the next tenth of a second, and not report it out to the hundredth of a second.
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Old 04-14-13, 01:36 PM
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Agreed. At the Newton Falls Inv. (a nice early-season meet) they used the 8-lane timer popular for hand-timing meets. Throughout the meet, some of the timers were not standing with a straight-on view of the finish line. About 3-4 of them were standing 2-3m ahead of the finish line so their view was at an angle. All results were reported to the hundredth. Those of us taking times found that the "official" times were .3-.5 too fast all day long in all events. Some of those sprinters aren't going to sniff the same times until VERY late in the season.
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Old 04-14-13, 08:55 PM
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nice to see this annual topic come up. Bush league to not know how to time a meet
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Old 04-14-13, 10:03 PM
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nice to see this annual topic come up. Bush league to not know how to time a meet
True, but it seems the same meets always do so and it bugs the same people so much.
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Old 04-14-13, 10:29 PM
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I've seen several meets this year in which times in the prelims in sprints and hurdle races were 2 or 3 seconds faster than the seed times and the finals times and these are the times that are getting turned into Milesplit.
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Old 07-28-17, 04:54 PM
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Question: How many meets anymore have humans timing with stopwatches?

Most MT being reported as FAT is done either through ignorance or laziness on the part of the recording agency by not changing the output on their reporting forms.
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Old 07-28-17, 05:12 PM
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Every dual meet we go to, which is half of our meets, have manual times.

It's been several years since we've been to an invitational that uses anything but FAT.

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Old 07-28-17, 08:56 PM
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Every dual meet we go to, which his half of our meets, have manual times.

It's been several years since we've been to an invitational that uses anything but FAT.
We began to use a timing company for our home dual meets in 2016. This year we had three duals with FAT and two were hand timed. The simplest thing to do, and why so many track coaches don't get this, is to never record times to the hundredth in the results if they are HT. All of our invitationals have been FAT in this decade.

But I know that my son will go to meets next year that are manually timed. All but two of his middle school meets last year were manually timed. (When he was in 7th grade there was a meet where one stopwatch operator recorded him in 14.2 for the 110s, even though he was a full five meters behind the winner, who ran 15.9. They wrote his time down as a 15.8, but his coach (I was in complete agreement) didn't use that as an official time for him.
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