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Zishka's converted time should be 4:02.44. One shouldn't revert back to MT if the original time is in FAT.

Also, Todd Saul's mark (4:10.1 mile) should be a 4:08.7 MT converted mark, and that wonderful performance was made at the Southwestern Ohio AAA district (now region IV) meet at Welcome Stadium on May 29, 1981. He defeated George Nicholas in that race as Nicholas managed a 4:14.4 despite having mononucleosis.
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Gaynor has been moved way up from his state meet time. He also ran in the Boston meet in 2016
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Edwards has been moved way up from his state meet with his time at the Nike Outdoor Nationals.
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Solon's Kevin Blank has been added with his converted time at the New Balance Outdoor Nationals. Count now is at 34.
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1600 meters ( * = mile time X 99.42%)
4:01.71*, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, Adidas Grand Prix, June 9, 2012
4:01.92*, SAMUEL BORCHERS, Yellow Springs, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
4:02.44*, JOHN ZISHKA, Lancaster, Golden West, Inv., June, 14, 1980
4:03.41*, JEFF SEE, Middletown, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 18, 2005
4:04.5*, RON ADDISON, Cleveland. Rhodes, 1972
4:05.13, BOB KENNEDY, Westerville North, State Championship, June 4, 1988
4:05.27*, JOE BISTRITZ, Chagrin Falls, Adidas Boost Boston Games, June 18, 2016
4:04.6, JEFF SEE, Middletown, 2003
4:06.0*, MASON WARD, Colerain, Golden West, 2000
4:07.1*, REGGIE MCAFEE, Courter Tech, State Championship, May 24, 1969
4:07.1*, DARRELL HUGHES, Galloway Westland, 1991
4:07.12, RYAN ADAMS, CVCA, State Championship, June 6, 2015
4:07.52, DUSTIN HORTER, Lakota East, GMC Championship, May 12, 2017
4:07.7, MIKE HALLABRIN, Mansfield Malabar, 1980
4:07.96, MICHAEL VITUCCI, St. Xavier, State Championship, June 7, 2014
4:08.2* ALAN SCHARSU, Austintown Fitch, 1978
4:08.03. SCOTT FRY, Sandusky Perkins, 1985
4:08.04, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, OCC Championship, May 12, 2012
4:08.04, JACOB DUMFORD, Westerville North, Rod Russel Inv., May 11, 2013
4:08.41, CORY LESLIE, Perkins, State Championship, June 2, 2007
4:08.4*. Tom Rapp, Trotwood Madison, 1977
4:08.52, MICHAEL HALL, St. Xavier, State Championship, Jun 7, 2014
4:08.6* Todd Saul, Clayton Northmont, 1981
4:08.70, JESSE RHODENBAUGH, Talawanda, State, June 2, 2001
4:09.09, ARJUN JHA, Thomas Worthington, State, June 3, 2017
4:09.10, ROB MYERS, Lancaster Fairfield Union, 1999
4:09.24, GAVIN GAYNOR, Hudson, State Championship, June 4, 2016
4:09.26, GARRETT CRICHLOW, Twinsburg, NOC Valley, May 14, 2014
4:09.44, COLBY ALEXANDER, Strongsville, State Championship, June 5, 2010
4:09.54, JOSH TORMASI, Massillon-Perry, MMOC, Jun 13, 2009
4:09.54, CHRISTIAN NICHOLS, Hilliard Davidson, State, June 7, 2003
4:09.69, EMIL HEINEKING, Chardon, MMOC, Jun 9, 2007
4:09.89, JAKE EDWARDS, Hayes, State Championship, June 2, 2007
4:09.89, LUCAS BONS, Dublin Coffman, State Championship, June 3, 2017
4:09.92, SAMUEL PRAKEL, Versailles, MMOC, Jun 15, 2013

What is impressive as anything to me is that Reginald McAfee's 4:08.5 MT mile at the 1969 State meet (Class AA) still ranks #10, 49 years later. It was 4.8 seconds faster than his previous best, 4:13.3, which was also the all-time Ohio record at the time. McAfee's 4:08.5/1:52.5 double is still a legend almost 50 years later!
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What is impressive as anything to me is that Reginald McAfee's 4:08.5 MT mile at the 1969 State meet (Class AA) still ranks #10, 49 years later. It was 4.8 seconds faster than his previous best, 4:13.3, which was also the all-time Ohio record at the time. McAfee's 4:08.5/1:52.5 double is still a legend almost 50 years later!
It is claimed that he was the first African American under 4:00 in the mile.
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Colby Alexander has been moved up from his state meet time to his converted time at the Adidas Grand Prix
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It is claimed that he was the first African American under 4:00 in the mile.
I believe that is so, from everything I've read. 1973 was the year, I believe.

Another Cincinnati-product that was also nationally ranked during those years was the all-time great long/triple jumper, Mr. Al Lanier!
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Here is an updated list. This list is far from done. When I picked U4:10, I had no idea we would get this many. Any one listed without a meet and an exact date came from Craig Whitmore's list. I'm looking to update those. Seek Up once told me we need a venue to put someone on any list we do.

1600 meters ( * = mile time X 99.42%)
4:01.71*, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, Adidas Grand Prix, June 9, 2012
4:01.92*, SAMUEL BORCHERS, Yellow Springs, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
4:02.44*, JOHN ZISHKA, Lancaster, Golden West, Inv., June, 14, 1980
4:03.41*, JEFF SEE, Middletown, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 18, 2005
4:04.5*, RON ADDISON, Cleveland. Rhodes, 1972
4:05.13, BOB KENNEDY, Westerville North, State Championship, June 4, 1988
4:05.27*, JOE BISTRITZ, Chagrin Falls, Adidas Boost Boston Games, June 18, 2016
4:05.74*, GAVIN GAYNOR, Hudson, Adidas Boast Boston Games, June 18, 2016
4:06.0*, MASON WARD, Colerain, Golden West, 2000
4:06.58*, JAKE EDWARDS, Delaware Hayes, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
4:07.1*, REGGIE MCAFEE, Courter Tech, State Championship, May 24, 1969
4:07.1*, DARRELL HUGHES, Galloway Westland, 1991
4:07.12, RYAN ADAMS, CVCA, State Championship, June 6, 2015
4:07.52, DUSTIN HORTER, Lakota East, GMC Championship, May 12, 2017
4:07.70*, KEVIN BLANK, Solon, New Balance Outdoor Nationals, June 15, 2014
4:07.7, MIKE HALLABRIN, Mansfield Malabar, 1980
4:07.96, MICHAEL VITUCCI, St. Xavier, State Championship, June 7, 2014
4:08.2* ALAN SCHARSU, Austintown Fitch, 1978
4:08.03. SCOTT FRY, Sandusky Perkins, 1985
4:08.04, JACOB DUMFORD, Westerville North, Rod Russel Inv., May 11, 2013
4:08.41, CORY LESLIE, Perkins, State Championship, June 2, 2007
4:08.4*. TOM RAPP, Trotwood Madison, 1977
4:08.52, MICHAEL HALL, St. Xavier, State Championship, Jun 7, 2014
4:08.6* TODD SAUL, Clayton Northmont, Southwest AAA District, May 29, 1981
4:08.70, JESSE RHODENBAUGH, Talawanda, State, June 2, 2001
4:09.09, ARJUN JHA, Thomas Worthington, State, June 3, 2017
4:09.10, ROB MYERS, Lancaster Fairfield Union, 1999
4:09.26, GARRETT CRICHLOW, Twinsburg, NOC Valley, May 14, 2014
4:09.44, COLBY ALEXANDER, Strongsville, State Championship, June 5, 2010
4:09.54, JOSH TORMASI, Massillon-Perry, MMOC, Jun 13, 2009
4:09.54, CHRISTIAN NICHOLS, Hilliard Davidson, State, June 7, 2003
4:09.69, EMIL HEINEKING, Chardon, MMOC, Jun 9, 2007
4:09.89, LUCAS BONS, Dublin Coffman, State Championship, June 3, 2017
4:09.92, SAMUEL PRAKEL, Versailles, MMOC, Jun 15, 2013
For the record, Brannon's 4:03.12 Dream Mile was submitted to OHSAA for record consideration as it was run within the allowed period (ending one week after the state meet) and the race included only high school athletes. There was a clock(camera) at the 1500M mark and at the finish, but not at the 1600M, so the record was not approved/granted by OHSAA.

Separately, I'm disappointed that records prior to the metric conversion are no longer recognized by OHSAA... seems disrespectful to me. I understand that recognizing conversions is not appropriate, but why not maintain official records for both metric and "traditional" distances???

You could easily accuse me of being a "homer", given two of the first three names on the list above... but it just seems wrong to neglect all the great runners/performances that came before the metric conversion.
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Another for the sub4:10 list; Bill Beaty is listed in listed in our records at 4:09.0 (converted) from 1970.
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The never ending list of correction/additions continues as Danny Neff of Vandalia Butler is added to the list with his converted time at Arcadia. My goodness will it ever end.
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Updated list as of 1:00 a.m., May 2, 2018. When I picked U4:10, I had no idea we would get this many. Any one listed without a meet and an exact date came from Craig Whitmore's list. I'm looking to update those. Seek Up once told me we need a venue to put someone on any list we do.

All Time Ohio 1600m/1 Mile rankings.
1600 meters ( * = mile time X 99.42%)
1. 4:01.71*, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, Adidas Grand Prix, June 9, 2012
2. 4:01.92*, SAMUEL BORCHERS, Yellow Springs, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
3. 4:02.44*, JOHN ZISHKA, Lancaster, Golden West, Inv., June, 14, 1980
4. 4:03.41*, JEFF SEE, Middletown, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 18, 2005
5. 4:04.5*, RON ADDISON, Cleveland Rhodes, Baton Rouge, LA , June 10, 1972
6. 4:05.13, BOB KENNEDY, Westerville North, State Championship, June 4, 1988
7. 4:05.27*, JOE BISTRITZ, Chagrin Falls, Adidas Boost Boston Games, June 18, 2016
8. 4:05.74*, GAVIN GAYNOR, Hudson, Adidas Boast Boston Games, June 18, 2016
9. 4:06.0*, MASON WARD, Colerain, Golden West, June 10, 2000
10.4:07.1*, REGGIE MCAFEE, Courter Tech, State Championship, May 24, 1969
11. 4:07.1*, DARRELL HUGHES, Galloway Westland, 1991
12. 4:07.12, RYAN ADAMS, CVCA, State Championship, June 6, 2015
13. 4:07.28, JAKE EDWARDS, Delaware Hayes, MMOC, June 9, 2007
14. 4:07.52, DUSTIN HORTER, Lakota East, GMC Championship, May 12, 2017
15. 4:07.57, SCOTT HILDITCH, Woodridge, MMOC, June 7, 2007
16. 4:07.7, MIKE HALLABRIN, Mansfield Malabar, 1980
17. 4:07.96, MICHAEL VITUCCI, St. Xavier, State Championship, June 7, 2014
18. 4:07.90*, COLBY ALEXANDER, Strongsville, Adidas Grand Prix , June 12, 2010
19. 4:08.2* ALAN SCHARSU, Austintown Fitch, 1978
20. 4:08.03. SCOTT FRY, Sandusky Perkins, 1985
21. 4:08.04, JACOB DUMFORD, Westerville North, Rod Russel Inv., May 11, 2013
22. 4:08.41, CORY LESLIE, Perkins, State Championship, June 2, 2007
23. 4:08.41*, DANNY NEFF, Vandalia Butler, Arcadia Inv., April 11, 2009
24. 4:08.4*. TOM RAPP, Trotwood Madison, International Prep Invitational, 1977
25. 4:08.52, MICHAEL HALL, St. Xavier, State Championship, Jun 7, 2014
26. 4:08.6* TODD SAUL, Clayton Northmont, Southwest AAA District, May 29, 1981
27. 4:08.70, JESSE RHODENBAUGH, Talawanda, State, June 2, 2001
28. 4:09.09, ARJUN JHA, Thomas Worthington, State, June 3, 2017
29. 4:09*, Bill Beaty, Lancaster, Worthington AA Regional, May 16, 1970
30. 4:09.10, ROB MYERS, Lancaster Fairfield Union, 1999
31. 4:09.26, GARRETT CRICHLOW, Twinsburg, NOC Valley, May 14, 2014
32. 4:09.54, JOSH TORMASI, Massillon-Perry, MMOC, Jun 13, 2009
33. 4:09.54, CHRISTIAN NICHOLS, Hilliard Davidson, State, June 7, 2003
34. 4:09.69, EMIL HEINEKING, Chardon, MMOC, Jun 9, 2007
35. 4:09.89, LUCAS BONS, Dublin Coffman, State Championship, June 3, 2017
36. 4:09.92, SAMUEL PRAKEL, Versailles, MMOC, Jun 15, 2013

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I’m old and confused it was a 4:05 converted to 4:04, by Addison in 1972 . There was another meet out of state that served as a national championship race at the time. I just can’t remember the name of the meet. Maybe in Iowa ? He did have the fastest mile in the nation that year.
Craig Whitmore's record progression shows Addison running a mile in 4:05.9 in Baton Rouge, LA on June 10, 1972, converts to 4:04.5 for 1600m.
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Another for the sub4:10 list; Bill Beaty is listed in listed in our records at 4:09.0 (converted) from 1970.
Run at the Worthington regional in advance of the 1970 State Championship which I understand was held Gahanna Lincoln HS due to the unrest at OSU.
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Run at the Worthington regional in advance of the 1970 State Championship which I understand was held Gahanna Lincoln HS due to the unrest at OSU.
You are correct in your information. From the year 1910 (the 3rd year of the inception of the State HS championships in its current form) thru the year 1998, the meet was held on the OSU campus. The only year in exception, as you noted, was in 1970 due to the unrest on campuses throughout Ohio following the Kent State disastrous killing of 4 students earlier in the month of May.

Here are the locations of the State meet throughout the years:

1908 - Granville, OH
1909 - Delaware, OH
1910-1923 - Old Ohio Field, OSU
1924-1969 - Ohio Stadium, OSU
1970 - Gahanna Lincoln HS, Columbus
1971-1998 - Ohio Stadium, OSU
1999-2003 - Welcome Stadium, Dayton
2004-present - Jesse Owens Stadium, OSU
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Run at the Worthington regional in advance of the 1970 State Championship which I understand was held Gahanna Lincoln HS due to the unrest at OSU.
Yes, I do see now that Beaty ran 4:10.5 at his regional to qualify to state, converts to 4:09.0
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I have a couple more, but cannot produce a venue. These times come from the Shepherd list. Les Nagy ran a 4:10.0 mile in 1970. I was hoping Nagy ran against Beaty to produce that time, but it appears that is not the case.

Also, Mike Burley of Berea ran a 4:10.1 in 1971. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to do any investigating. I do believe both these times are legitimate.
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Updated list as of 1:00 a.m., May 2, 2018. When I picked U4:10, I had no idea we would get this many. Any one listed without a meet and an exact date came from Craig Whitmore's list. I'm looking to update those. Seek Up once told me we need a venue to put someone on any list we do.

All Time Ohio 1600m/1 Mile rankings.
1600 meters ( * = mile time X 99.42%)
1. 4:01.71*, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, Adidas Grand Prix, June 9, 2012
2. 4:01.92*, SAMUEL BORCHERS, Yellow Springs, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
3. 4:02.44*, JOHN ZISHKA, Lancaster, Golden West, Inv., June, 14, 1980
4. 4:03.41*, JEFF SEE, Middletown, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 18, 2005
5. 4:04.5*, RON ADDISON, Cleveland Rhodes, Baton Rouge, LA , June 10, 1972
6. 4:05.13, BOB KENNEDY, Westerville North, State Championship, June 4, 1988
7. 4:05.27*, JOE BISTRITZ, Chagrin Falls, Adidas Boost Boston Games, June 18, 2016
8. 4:05.74*, GAVIN GAYNOR, Hudson, Adidas Boast Boston Games, June 18, 2016
9. 4:06.0*, MASON WARD, Colerain, Golden West, June 10, 2000
10.4:07.1*, REGGIE MCAFEE, Courter Tech, State Championship, May 24, 1969
11. 4:07.1*, DARRELL HUGHES, Galloway Westland, 1991
12. 4:07.12, RYAN ADAMS, CVCA, State Championship, June 6, 2015
13. 4:07.28, JAKE EDWARDS, Delaware Hayes, MMOC, June 9, 2007
14. 4:07.52, DUSTIN HORTER, Lakota East, GMC Championship, May 12, 2017
15. 4:07.57, SCOTT HILDITCH, Woodridge, MMOC, June 7, 2007
16. 4:07.7, MIKE HALLABRIN, Mansfield Malabar, 1980
17. 4:07.96, MICHAEL VITUCCI, St. Xavier, State Championship, June 7, 2014
18. 4:07.90*, COLBY ALEXANDER, Strongsville, Adidas Grand Prix , June 12, 2010
19. 4:08.2* ALAN SCHARSU, Austintown Fitch, 1978
20. 4:08.03. SCOTT FRY, Sandusky Perkins, 1985
21. 4:08.04, JACOB DUMFORD, Westerville North, Rod Russel Inv., May 11, 2013
22. 4:08.41, CORY LESLIE, Perkins, State Championship, June 2, 2007
23. 4:08.41*, DANNY NEFF, Vandalia Butler, Arcadia Inv., April 11, 2009
24. 4:08.4*. TOM RAPP, Trotwood Madison, International Prep Invitational, 1977
25. 4:08.52, MICHAEL HALL, St. Xavier, State Championship, Jun 7, 2014
26. 4:08.6* TODD SAUL, Clayton Northmont, Southwest AAA District, May 29, 1981
27. 4:08.70, JESSE RHODENBAUGH, Talawanda, State, June 2, 2001
28. 4:09.09, ARJUN JHA, Thomas Worthington, State, June 3, 2017
29. 4:09*, Bill Beaty, Lancaster, Worthington AA Regional, May 16, 1970
30. 4:09.10, ROB MYERS, Lancaster Fairfield Union, 1999
31. 4:09.26, GARRETT CRICHLOW, Twinsburg, NOC Valley, May 14, 2014
32. 4:09.54, JOSH TORMASI, Massillon-Perry, MMOC, Jun 13, 2009
33. 4:09.54, CHRISTIAN NICHOLS, Hilliard Davidson, State, June 7, 2003
34. 4:09.69, EMIL HEINEKING, Chardon, MMOC, Jun 9, 2007
35. 4:09.89, LUCAS BONS, Dublin Coffman, State Championship, June 3, 2017
36. 4:09.92, SAMUEL PRAKEL, Versailles, MMOC, Jun 15, 2013
Darryl Hughes ran his race at the Keebler Inv. Elmhurst, IL (6/15/1991)
Mike Hallabrin took down the great John Zishka at state for his (5/31/1980)
Scott Fry's race was at state (6/1/1985)
Rob Myer's race was at state (6/5/1999)
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I have a couple more, but cannot produce a venue. These times come from the Shepherd list. Les Nagy ran a 4:10.0 mile in 1970. I was hoping Nagy ran against Beaty to produce that time, but it appears that is not the case.

Also, Mike Burley of Berea ran a 4:10.1 in 1971. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to do any investigating. I do believe both these times are legitimate.
Nagy's 4:10.0 is LEGIT and was listed in the June 1970 T&FN national listings (I have listings going back into the 1930's). I believe that Nagy's performance may have come, once again, at the Bellaire Relays in 1970. Do a search on baumspage for les nagy and you'll find old meet programs listing a converted 4:08.84 1600m mark of Nagy from that meet. While the conversion is about .3 seconds off, if anyone has those meet results or can look them up in local microfilm out in niles, I suspect the mark will be confirmed.

Regarding Burley, I do find him on the 1971 national listing; however, his best is listed as 4:14.1, not 4:10.1. I have no idea what meet his 4:14.1 was at.
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Nagy's 4:10.0 is LEGIT and was listed in the June 1970 T&FN national listings (I have listings going back into the 1930's). I believe that Nagy's performance may have come, once again, at the Bellaire Relays in 1970. Do a search on baumspage for les nagy and you'll find old meet programs listing a converted 4:08.84 1600m mark of Nagy from that meet. While the conversion is about .3 seconds off, if anyone has those meet results or can look them up in local microfilm out in niles, I suspect the mark will be confirmed.

Regarding Burley, I do find him on the 1971 national listing; however, his best is listed as 4:14.1, not 4:10.1. I have no idea what meet his 4:14.1 was at.
Mike Burley won the AAA State mile in 1971 in 4:14.1
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Darryl Hughes ran his race at the Keebler Inv. Elmhurst, IL (6/15/1991)
Mike Hallabrin took down the great John Zishka at state for his (5/31/1980)
Scott Fry's race was at state (6/1/1985)
Rob Myer's race was at state (6/5/1999)
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Updated list as of 12:30 a.m., May 4, 2018. When I picked U4:10, I had no idea we would get this many. Any one listed without a meet and an exact date came from Craig Whitmore's list. I'm looking to update those. Seek Up once told me we need a venue to put someone on any list we do.

All Time Ohio 1600m/1 Mile rankings.
1600 meters ( * = mile time X 99.42%)
1. 4:01.71*, BRANNON KIDDER, Lancaster, Adidas Grand Prix, June 9, 2012
2. 4:01.92*, SAMUEL BORCHERS, Yellow Springs, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
3. 4:02.44*, JOHN ZISHKA, Lancaster, Golden West, Inv., June, 14, 1980
4. 4:03.40, DUSTIN HORTER, Lakota East, Mason Inv. May 4, 2018
5. 4:03.41*, JEFF SEE, Middletown, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 18, 2005
5. 4:04.5*, RON ADDISON, Cleveland Rhodes, All American Inv. (LA), June 10, 1972
6. 4:05.13, BOB KENNEDY, Westerville North, State Championship, June 4, 1988
7. 4:05.27*, JOE BISTRITZ, Chagrin Falls, Adidas Boost Boston Games, June 18, 2016
8. 4:05.74*, GAVIN GAYNOR, Hudson, Adidas Boast Boston Games, June 18, 2016
9. 4:05.8*, MASON WARD, Colerain, Golden West, June 10, 2000
10. 4:06.58*, JAKE EDWARDS, Delaware Hayes, Nike Outdoor Nationals, June 16, 2007
11. 4:07.08*, DARRELL HUGHES, Galloway Westland, International Prep Inv., June 15, 1991
12.4:07.1*, REGGIE MCAFEE, Courter Tech, State Championship, May 24, 1969
13. 4:07.12, RYAN ADAMS, CVCA, State Championship, June 6, 2015
14. 4:07.57, SCOTT HILDITCH, Woodridge, MMOC, June 7, 2007
15. 4:07.7, MIKE HALLABRIN, Mansfield Malabar, State, May 31, 1980
16. 4:07.96, MICHAEL VITUCCI, St. Xavier, State Championship, June 7, 2014
17. 4:07.90*, COLBY ALEXANDER, Strongsville, Adidas Grand Prix , June 12, 2010
18. 4:08.2* ALAN SCHARSU, Austintown Fitch, 1978
19. 4:08.03. SCOTT FRY, Sandusky Perkins, State, June 1, 1985
20. 4:08.04, JACOB DUMFORD, Westerville North, Rod Russel Inv., May 11, 2013
21. 4:08.41, CORY LESLIE, Perkins, State Championship, June 2, 2007
22. 4:08.41*, DANNY NEFF, Vandalia Butler, Arcadia Inv., April 11, 2009
23. 4:08.4*. TOM RAPP, Trotwood Madison, International Prep Invitational, June 18, 1977
24. 4:08.52, MICHAEL HALL, St. Xavier, State Championship, Jun 7, 2014
25. 4:08.6* LES NAGY, Niles McKinley, Bellaire Relays, April, 25, 1970
25T 4:08.6* TODD SAUL, Clayton Northmont, Southwest AAA District, May 29, 1981
27. 4:08.70, JESSE RHODENBAUGH, Talawanda, State, June 2, 2001
28. 4:09.01, Chad Johnson, Colonel Crawford, Mason Inv. May 4, 2018
29. 4:09.09, ARJUN JHA, Thomas Worthington, State, June 3, 2017
30. 4:09*, BILL BEATY, Lancaster, Worthington AA Regional, May 16, 1970
31. 4:09.10, ROB MYERS, Lancaster Fairfield Union, State, June 5, 1999
32. 4:09.26, GARRETT CRICHLOW, Twinsburg, NOC Valley, May 14, 2014
33. 4:09.54, JOSH TORMASI, Massillon-Perry, MMOC, Jun 13, 2009
34. 4:09.54, CHRISTIAN NICHOLS, Hilliard Davidson, State, June 7, 2003
35. 4:09.69, EMIL HEINEKING, Chardon, MMOC, Jun 9, 2007
36. 4:09.89, LUCAS BONS, Dublin Coffman, State Championship, June 3, 2017
37. 4:09.92, SAMUEL PRAKEL, Versailles, MMOC, Jun 15, 2013

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I have received confirmation from Jack Shepard at Track & Field News that indeed, Les Nagy's 4:10.0 mile was at the Bellaire Relays on 4/25/1970. His splits in that race were 61, 64, 66, 59
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I have received confirmation from Jack Shepard at Track & Field News that indeed, Les Nagy's 4:10.0 mile was at the Bellaire Relays on 4/25/1970. His splits in that race were 61, 64, 66, 59
You're relentless JAVMAN83. I have added Les Nagy to the list. He pushes the final count up to 37.
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Iím old and confused it was a 4:05 converted to 4:04, by Addison in 1972 . There was another meet out of state that served as a national championship race at the time. I just canít remember the name of the meet. Maybe in Iowa ? He did have the fastest mile in the nation that year.
Seek Up Provided the name of the meet in Baton Rouge, LA. It was called the All American Inv. It was where Addison ran his best time.
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I have updated Horter's time and added Chad Johnson
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The 3200m list for under 9:00 goes 27 deep while the 1600m list for under 4:10 goes to 37. Should we change it to under 4:09 so we can get the same number 27. Under 4:10 was just guesswork on my part. What say you all is 4:10 or 4:09 in the 1600 comparable to 9:00 in the 3200.
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The 3200m list for under 9:00 goes 27 deep while the 1600m list for under 4:10 goes to 37. Should we change it to under 4:09 so we can get the same number 27. Under 4:10 was just guesswork on my part. What say you all is 4:10 or 4:09 in the 1600 comparable to 9:00 in the 3200.
No, don't change it. Those marks are arbitrary, but stick out in the mind as easy ones to remember.

I do recommend, however, that the original mile times be included with the converted 1600m marks for posterity's sake. Enclosing them in parentheses or brackets would be a sufficient demarcation.

FYI - I have Ward's 4:07.2 from GWI converting to 4:05.8 over 1600m, not 4:06.0.

ADDTIONALLY - Darrell Hughes time should be an FAT 4:07.08. He ran 4:08.52 FAT to win the Mile at the 1991 International Prep meet on June 15, 1991

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Corrections have been made to Ward and Hughes.
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Another correction/improvement:

Jake Edwards was 3rd in the race with Borchers in '07 at 4:08.02 for the mile. That converts to a 4:06.58 1600m vs. his 4:07.28 at the MMOC listed above.
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