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View Poll Results: With the 4th pick in the 2018 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns select:
Minkah Fitzpatrick, defensive back, University of Alabama 0 0%
Saquon Barkley, running back, Penn State 2 14.29%
Bradley Chubb, defensive end, North Carolina State 9 64.29%
Quenton Nelson, guard, Notre Dame 2 14.29%
Denzel Ward, cornerback, The Ohio State University 0 0%
Other 1 7.14%
Trade 0 0%
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Old 04-23-18, 07:35 PM
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Browns' Number 4 Pick

With the 4th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select:
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Old 04-24-18, 12:53 AM
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I picked Quenton Nelson ... he could make the Browns better at two positions ... both LG & LT

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Old 04-24-18, 07:10 AM
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Bumping Bonitio outside?

I can't argue your pick though, joe. Nelson might be the best player in the draft regardless of positional value.
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Old 04-24-18, 07:28 AM
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Nelson’s a stud. Probably the safest path to a perennial pro bowler in the draft.
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Old 04-24-18, 08:25 AM
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Another QB. In all seriousness I'd definitely take Chubb. Him and Garrett on the ends of the DL? Yikes.
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Old 04-24-18, 08:28 AM
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A lot of NFL guys are talking about Chubb's 2nd contract and how that would affect the Browns decision at 4. Positions of value are requiring huge pay days and if Garrett stays on track and the QB1 ends up working out in 4 years they will have 3 guys at positions of value looking for max $s and a possible salary cap problem. RBs in 4 years tend not to get paid big $s so that is why from an analytics stand point the smart move would be Barkley at 4 if available. I get this feeling that they may trade with someone and not get great value just to avoid this potential problem.
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Old 04-24-18, 08:45 AM
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I understand contracts/future contracts will be a consideration on some level, but it seems awfully silly to stockpile these great draft picks to then not take who you think is the best player. Kind of a waste to even get the draft picks in the first place.
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Old 04-24-18, 08:47 AM
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Nelson might be a pro bowler this season.

Browns have two great guards. Drafting Nelson would signal a move to LT for Bitonio? No one seems particularly convinced the Browns are willing to go that route, but he did play LT in college.
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That would be moronic to not draft a player because you are concerned about contract #2.
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Old 04-24-18, 08:50 AM
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Whose to say they will even pan out?
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Old 04-24-18, 09:05 AM
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That would be moronic to not draft a player because you are concerned about contract #2.
Yeah just shows the incompetence
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Old 04-24-18, 09:08 AM
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Whose to say they will even pan out?
Exactly.
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Old 04-24-18, 09:20 AM
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Certainly isnt a sure thing Myles Garret works out either.

If you have to pay big contracts to your draft picks that is a good problem to have imo. It means your talent evaluation team and player development are competent. That is the most "Browns" line of thinking I have ever heard. If that truly is in the mind of anyone in the organization they should be fired. That seems like something Sashi would say.

I doubt Dorsey or anyone in power really thinks that.
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Old 04-24-18, 09:21 AM
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Another QB. In all seriousness I'd definitely take Chubb. Him and Garrett on the ends of the DL? Yikes.
That pash rush would solve a lot of issues and hide plenty of them. That potentially could be a lethal combo.
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A lot of NFL guys are talking about Chubb's 2nd contract and how that would affect the Browns decision at 4. Positions of value are requiring huge pay days and if Garrett stays on track and the QB1 ends up working out in 4 years they will have 3 guys at positions of value looking for max $s and a possible salary cap problem. RBs in 4 years tend not to get paid big $s so that is why from an analytics stand point the smart move would be Barkley at 4 if available. I get this feeling that they may trade with someone and not get great value just to avoid this potential problem.
On the flip side, drafting him at 4 automatically makes his a top 3 (or 5? can't remember) runningback before he even touches an NFL field.
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Old 04-24-18, 10:40 AM
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Nelson might be a pro bowler this season.

Browns have two great guards. Drafting Nelson would signal a move to LT for Bitonio? No one seems particularly convinced the Browns are willing to go that route, but he did play LT in college.
Bitonio would be waaaayyyyyy better than Coleman .... Coleman was a bad RT how in the world do they believe he could play LT???

With all that said ... I agree with EP ... Nelson is the safest bet to be an All-Pro and I would love the attitude he brings to the field ... but I would also not be upset with Chubb ... loves his effort.

This video is why I love Nelson
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Old 04-24-18, 12:14 PM
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Whose to say they will even pan out?
Why draft anyone if you don't think they are going to pan out you Knucklehead?
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Old 04-24-18, 12:15 PM
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Take Chubb or Barkley, whichever is available
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Old 04-24-18, 12:22 PM
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Why draft anyone if you don't think they are going to pan out you Knucklehead?
No surprise, you missed the point.
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Old 04-24-18, 03:22 PM
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Cleveland will use their number 4 pick, to trade up for their number 1 pick.



and they will make a bad deal doing it.
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Old 04-24-18, 04:27 PM
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I don't see them sliding Bitonio to tackle. As I recall, he played RT for 3 years and LT for a year in college, but he's exclusively played guard in the NFL. I suspect they're hoping for one of the better tackles to be available early in the second. I could also see them using some of their assets to move back up into the late first and take someone like Kolton Miller or Connor Williams. My hope is that one of those 2 makes it to the second round and the Browns draft goes: Darnold, Chubb, Williams, Michel.
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Old 04-24-18, 04:58 PM
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A lot of NFL guys are talking about Chubb's 2nd contract and how that would affect the Browns decision at 4. Positions of value are requiring huge pay days and if Garrett stays on track and the QB1 ends up working out in 4 years they will have 3 guys at positions of value looking for max $s and a possible salary cap problem. RBs in 4 years tend not to get paid big $s so that is why from an analytics stand point the smart move would be Barkley at 4 if available. I get this feeling that they may trade with someone and not get great value just to avoid this potential problem.
Looks like the Texans with Watt, Clowney, and Watson, huh ? They're a few years ahead. Too bad our un-GM, former VP Sashi Brown, didn't hang around as a contract guy. That WAS a strong suit for him.

Caps go up every season, rookie max and staggered terms are going to help.


Trading #4 away low like it's a hot potato over your issue seems unlikely to me. Maybe if we had hired Farmer back......
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Old 04-24-18, 04:59 PM
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Whose to say they will even pan out?
true enough
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Old 04-24-18, 05:23 PM
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Agreed on looking down the road at contract extensions being idiotic.

Could just as easily make the opposite argument. If you draft a RB or a G at #4 - they're immediately one of the highest paid players at their position before ever setting foot on an NFL field. Pretty big risk, even if Barkley and Nelson look like sure things.

Where as a productive rookie contract QB or DE is a huge cap luxury given the price those positions usually command. Seattle with Wilson and Philly with Wentz are two recent examples of teams who won SB's because they were able to have a good QB for cheap and build up every other position on the field with the cap savings.
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Old 04-24-18, 05:24 PM
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Take Chubb or Barkley, whichever is available
Chubb can likely excel anywhere on the D-line, pass or run, in most any package. His value rotating in and out of the D-line with those that they have already and Collins blitzing would likely put them at a much higher level defensively. It'd be like achieving a critical mass.

I'd take Nelson or Fitzpatrick over Barkley, too.

If Chubb is gone, then only 2 QBs are gone. Someone higher than Buffalo may have one of the 2 remaining QBs as their favorite right now. If Denver wants to keep Buff off that guy, the price could easily be turned into Nelson or McGlinchey or Fitzpatrick or Ward AND Sony Michel - plus a later pick. 1-31 can't turn that away for Barkley, can they ?
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Old 04-24-18, 06:00 PM
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I really think you can't screw up the #4 pick in this draft. Guaranteed to have two or three studs available. The draft will be a success if Darnold is the pick at #1 and a failure if it's Allen or Mayfield
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I really think you can't screw up the #4 pick in this draft. Guaranteed to have two or three studs available. The draft will be a success if Darnold is the pick at #1 and a failure if it's Allen or Mayfield
No Rosen love at all ?

I found these interesting - the Old Spice shill-erview concept notwithstanding. (The "journalist" is probably getting paid, too, so it may as well be John Tesh)

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/fe...h-dan-patrick/

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I would take Rosen over Allen or Mayfield
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I would love to have Nelson on the o-line, but the Browns are good at G, C, G, so he would be a luxury pick. It must be Chubb. To have a dominant pass rush is something that can get the Browns to playoff level in a hurry.
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I would take Rosen over Allen or Mayfield
I still prefer him to Darnold in some ways.

Mayfield may actually have the highest floor. For him not to have the lowest ceiling would require exceptional commitment and football IQ, but many now have been impressed with his ability to digest and even synthesize a playbook. He's even been called a "football savant" by several, so mis-direction season or not that high-achiever in the mental game may be there. He's also physically durable if short. I'd be optimistic.

I want no part of a gamble on Allen. With all the sacrifices of tanking, dumping talent, passing on talent, it feels like cutting the cards for 401ks.
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