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Old 05-16-18, 04:00 AM
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I wonder if Jordan would've ever went down 2-0 to the Jazz if they were missing Stockton and Malone.
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Old 05-16-18, 06:41 AM
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The Cavs, outside LeBron and Love, are just really bad. If, and that is a big if, the Cavs can get past Boston they are going to get swept by GS. Herculean 40 point, triple double game and the Cavs still lose by double digits despite getting scoring helping from Love and Korver. Just a bad team.
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Old 05-16-18, 06:59 AM
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Itís 2-0, the sky is falling
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Old 05-16-18, 07:18 AM
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Old 05-16-18, 07:57 AM
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This is so much more about Cleveland being bad then Boston being good.

None of these new guys can do anything.

May have been better off losing to Indiana at this point.

Losing to a Garnett, Allen, Rondo and Pierce (even if I think he is overated af) squad coached by Doc Rivers in 7 and 6 games sucked but this Cavs team very well could get swept by Al Horford and the Boston Complementary Players. Sad.

Real question is what do you even do at this point after the season? I mean if you can even convince LeBron to stay the dead weight needs to go. They need a good scorer like Paul George or Kemba Walker to go along with him and Love.

The Jordan argument at this point is stupid. Jordan 6-0 in Finals. No the real stat is Jordan 1 win 9 losses without Scottie Pippen as his Robin and Phil Jackson pulling the strings. A 22 year old LeBron led a team to the Finals with Larry Hughes and his 14pts/gm as a #2 scorer.
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Old 05-16-18, 09:34 AM
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The bench and role players always play better at home. There is a reason they are 6 1/2 pt favorites Saturday night. I love the Cavs chances in a game 5 in Boston tied 2-2.
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Old 05-16-18, 09:49 AM
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I hate NBA flops.

Horford definitely got pushed in the back and deserved the flagrant 1 on JR Smith but the announcers going crazy calling for the flagrant 2 because he fell over forwards.

Then the next layup Horford gets hit much harder by Love and miraculously stays on his feet and flexes afterwards.

That was the end of any chance the Cavs had to come back.

But I still hate flops.
Didn't think Horford flopped. He was pushed in the back while airborne, instead of trying to catch himself and land on his feet, he hit the floor and rolled. Wouldn't call that flop, though the anouncers and media are definitely going overboard with want a Flagrant 2 and/or suspension.
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Old 05-16-18, 09:51 AM
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It will be 2-2 going back to Boston. The Celtics are a horrible road team.
Says the guy who said it'd be 1-1 going to Cleveland after a monster LeBron game. Sure you called the Toronto sweep, but other than that you've been wrong more than right.
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Old 05-16-18, 09:56 AM
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The Cavs, outside LeBron and Love, are just really bad. If, and that is a big if, the Cavs can get past Boston they are going to get swept by GS. Herculean 40 point, triple double game and the Cavs still lose by double digits despite getting scoring helping from Love and Korver. Just a bad team.
Without looking at the numbers by half, the biggest difference was Boston running the Cavs off the 3-point line in the 2nd half. Even Green hit a corner 3 in the 2nd Qtr because the ball movement was there. Korver had a strong 2nd Qtr, but didn't do much else the rest of the game. JR looks like a mess offensively. Boston should regress closer to the mean in Cleveland and the Cavs role players should play much better, so it wouldn't shock me to see it go back to Boston 2-2. Still, Boston has looked very impressive thus far without Kyrie and Hayward.
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Old 05-16-18, 10:09 AM
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Says the guy who said it'd be 1-1 going to Cleveland after a monster LeBron game. Sure you called the Toronto sweep, but other than that you've been wrong more than right.
Sure didnít and donít see any predictions from you except the fact you just regurgitated what I just posted, the role players will play better at home and it will be 2-2. Hell why didnít you just copy and paste it would have been easier.
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Old 05-16-18, 10:21 AM
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The Hayward argument is so assinine, he played 5 min and scored 2 pts this year and people act like Boston would have won 82 games with him. The dynamic of that team is completely different if he played all year. They had no choice but to play more guys and that created a team that is very deep. They also have a winning record in games Irving didn’t play so they don’t miss him much either.
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Old 05-16-18, 10:29 AM
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The Hayward argument is so assinine, he played 5 min and scored 2 pts this year and people act like Boston would have won 82 games with him. The dynamic of that team is completely different if he played all year. They had no choice but to play more guys and that created a team that is very deep. They also have a winning record in games Irving didnít play so they donít miss him much either.
True. Teams are almost always better without their 2 best players. I think if Hayward and Kyrie played all year the Celtics would be looking at a 5 seed and loss in the first round.
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Old 05-16-18, 10:35 AM
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True. Teams are almost always better without their 2 best players. I think if Hayward and Kyrie played all year the Celtics would be looking at a 5 seed and loss in the first round.
Please give us facts that show how the Celtics would have been this year had Hayward played....
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Old 05-16-18, 10:55 AM
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Sure ya are. Key word is assume. You have no idea how the Celtics would have been with Hayward. Please don’t give us the all star garbage, DeRozan and Lowry have been all stars also.
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Old 05-16-18, 10:57 AM
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Curry is a product of the system. Do they win the finals this year if Curry gets hurt tonight ? Odds are yes. Do they win the finals if Durant gets hurt tonight ? No chance in hell.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:05 AM
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Why would I give you facts that say they would have won more games with him if I'm agreeing with you?!
Because you canít and your ignorance shines through with each post.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:07 AM
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Because you canít and your ignorance shines through with each post.
No, it's because I agree with you.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:08 AM
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The Hayward argument is so assinine, he played 5 min and scored 2 pts this year and people act like Boston would have won 82 games with him. The dynamic of that team is completely different if he played all year. They had no choice but to play more guys and that created a team that is very deep. They also have a winning record in games Irving didnít play so they donít miss him much either.
Not sure how pointing out the Celtics are missing their two best players and still playing this well is asinine? Truth be told, I think Hayward added to the mix would be a huge benefit for Boston, whereas Kyrie might be a net negative in this matchup.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:08 AM
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Tranny's outside the box got me thinking. With the Cavs being down 0-2 to the Celtics, without their 2 best players, should the Cavs sit LeBron and Kevin Love? Both are All Stars so obviously playing rookies in their place will make the Cavs a better team.
Do the Celtics have a winning record when Kyrie hasnít played ? Yes Fact
Did they win 55 games and get the # 2 seed without Hayward ? Yes Fact
Did they come together as a team and create more depth ? Yes Fact


Can you give us facts they would have won more games with Hayward ? No
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Old 05-16-18, 11:10 AM
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Do the Celtics have a winning record when Kyrie hasn’t played ? Yes Fact
Did they win 55 games and get the # 2 seed without Hayward ? Yes Fact
Did they come together as a team and create more depth ? Yes Fact


Can you give us facts they would have won more games with Hayward ? No
See? We're in complete agreement! The Cavs really should try this out. Clearly it works!
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Old 05-16-18, 11:10 AM
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Itís pretty ignorant to believe the Celtics might be an ben better team if highly talented players like Hayward and Irving were playing. Good points by tranny.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:11 AM
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Not sure how pointing out the Celtics are missing their two best players and still playing this well is asinine? Truth be told, I think Hayward added to the mix would be a huge benefit for Boston, whereas Kyrie might be a net negative in this matchup.
Because he played 5 min this year. FIVE minutes.
So Hayward plays and gets 35-40 min. a game this year, who wouldnít be getting those minutes...Tatum ? Brown ? So no itís not the same team so to use the ďwithout their 2 best players argumentĒ is well assinine.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:13 AM
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Curry is a product of the system. Do they win the finals this year if Curry gets hurt tonight ? Odds are yes. Do they win the finals if Durant gets hurt tonight ? No chance in hell.
Curry built the system. He was there before Durant, and Klay, and Green and Kerr. If Curry gets hurt tonight Golden State is not winning the title.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:14 AM
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I wonder if the Celtics might be better on the road in the playoffs with two highly talented seasoned vets playing. Probably not.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:23 AM
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Because he played 5 min this year. FIVE minutes.
So Hayward plays and gets 35-40 min. a game this year, who wouldnít be getting those minutes...Tatum ? Brown ? So no itís not the same team so to use the ďwithout their 2 best players argumentĒ is well assinine.
Well for starters it's asinine, not assininie.

And yes Hayward would have taken minutes from Brown and Tatum, but their athleticism would still be there, as would their shot-making ability. Hayward would open more floor space for both. The one thing they may not have is the confidence they have now since they were thrown to the fire 5 minutes into the year. To think they're worse with Hayward in this series is asinine.
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Old 05-16-18, 11:53 AM
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I wonder if Brad Stevens could have made the Celtics better if he had Hayward for more than 5 mins and if he had both Irving and Hayward for the playoffs? Probably not.
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Old 05-16-18, 01:28 PM
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In all seriousness, despite the fact he scored 42, dished out 12 assists and pulled down 10 rebounds, there were a lot of moments where he looked completely uninterested in playing basketball despite being down single digits with plenty of time to mount a comeback. There's only 2-12 games left, the time for finding pockets of rest in game is over.
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Old 05-16-18, 06:21 PM
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This is so much more about Cleveland being bad then Boston being good.

None of these new guys can do anything.

May have been better off losing to Indiana at this point.
Toronto was supposed to be good. They had a great year. Cleveland's role players did quite well against them.

Boston is pretty good. Lots of young interchangeable parts that come in and do their job when called on. Well coached and they play good defense. Some good draft picks coming into their own. Toronto made Cleveland look like world beaters. Boston not so much so far. Time will tell.
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Old 05-17-18, 12:36 AM
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The Cavs, outside LeBron and Love, are just really bad. If, and that is a big if, the Cavs can get past Boston they are going to get swept by GS. Herculean 40 point, triple double game and the Cavs still lose by double digits despite getting scoring helping from Love and Korver. Just a bad team.
I think that this team is bad at iso-ball.
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Old 05-17-18, 12:37 AM
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The bench and role players always play better at home. There is a reason they are 6 1/2 pt favorites Saturday night. I love the Cavs chances in a game 5 in Boston tied 2-2.
I agree.
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