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Old 04-20-17, 04:49 PM
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Elder Lax is better than Sycamore.
How did you come to this conclusion?
Since 2011 Elder is 2-4 vs Sycamore. So you accept mediocrity?
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Old 04-20-17, 07:19 PM
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How did you come to this conclusion?
Since 2011 Elder is 2-4 vs Sycamore. So you accept mediocrity?
I thought they've beaten them 2 of the last 3? I don't accept mediocrity, and I'm not thrilled w/ where the LAX program is at, especially when just a few yrs ago they took Moeller down to the wire. However, I also understand it's extremely hard: 1) building a program from scratch and 2) working with a much, much smaller number of players than your competitors.
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Old 04-20-17, 07:24 PM
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I thought they've beaten them 2 of the last 3? I don't accept mediocrity, and I'm not thrilled w/ where the LAX program is at, especially when just a few yrs ago they took Moeller down to the wire. However, I also understand it's extremely hard: 1) building a program from scratch and 2) working with a much, much smaller number of players than your competitors.
Nope; and I revise my previous record. They are 2-5, they lost to them twice in 2013; beat them in 2012 and 2014.

Elder, i believe is in their 11th or 12th year of program, how long do they get?
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Old 04-20-17, 07:30 PM
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Nope; and I revise my previous record. They are 2-5, they lost to them twice in 2013; beat them in 2012 and 2014.

Elder, i believe is in their 11th or 12th year of program, how long do they get?
Isn't Nugent in his 6th year? The guy before him got fired which is nearly impossible when you're coaching at Elder. I agree they should be further along, but I can cut the guy some slack.
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Old 04-20-17, 08:08 PM
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Let's be honest...Elder will probably never be a top tier lacrosse program. The best lacrosse players are likely eastsiders and not choosing Elder over the real lacrosse programs in the city. It's not a knock...but it's kind of a pipe dream to ever expect Elder's program to compete with schools that have kids that go there exclusively for lacrosse.
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Old 04-20-17, 09:32 PM
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Let's be honest...Elder will probably never be a top tier lacrosse program. The best lacrosse players are likely eastsiders and not choosing Elder over the real lacrosse programs in the city. It's not a knock...but it's kind of a pipe dream to ever expect Elder's program to compete with schools that have kids that go there exclusively for lacrosse.
I agree with this. For spring sports, Elder is first a baseball school and second a volleyball school. LAX might be behind Track at this point.
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Old 04-27-17, 08:34 AM
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Lost to Lakota West 1-8, that can't be good.
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Old 04-27-17, 09:10 AM
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Lost to Lakota West 1-8, that can't be good.
Unacceptable. I know it's "just" LAX, but this team has too much talent to be so average. Nobody's expecting the world from the program, but they need to show improvement. This is BS.
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Old 04-29-17, 07:23 PM
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Lacrosse beat Sycamore 8-6 tonight in a game that was the completion of one delayed by rain a few weeks ago. (Tonight's action resumed at the start of the third quarter tied at 3.)
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Old 04-29-17, 08:11 PM
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In al fairness LW is actually a really good team, though not deep, and almost pulled off a W vs Moeller
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Old 04-29-17, 08:43 PM
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Lacrosse beat Sycamore 8-6 tonight in a game that was the completion of one delayed by rain a few weeks ago. (Tonight's action resumed at the start of the third quarter tied at 3.)
Sycamore is having a bad year.
Not a quality win.
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Old 04-29-17, 08:52 PM
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Sycamore is having a bad year.
Not a quality win.
Did anyone say it was? EHS01 was just giving an update, no need to be such a tool.
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Old 04-29-17, 08:53 PM
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In al fairness LW is actually a really good team, though not deep, and almost pulled off a W vs Moeller
Yeah, but to lose 8-1? The expectations for the program aren't very high, but they should be more competitive.
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Old 04-30-17, 12:16 AM
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Yeah, but to lose 8-1? The expectations for the program aren't very high, but they should be more competitive.
I have only seen Elder play a couple of times and not the west game but my guess is the matchups were just not in their favor. Outsider opinion- just didn't want you thinking that losing to LW was worth jumping off a bridge, they have a very solid starting lineup that could really do some damage in the post season.
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Old 04-30-17, 12:55 PM
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I have only seen Elder play a couple of times and not the west game but my guess is the matchups were just not in their favor. Outsider opinion- just didn't want you thinking that losing to LW was worth jumping off a bridge, they have a very solid starting lineup that could really do some damage in the post season.
I respect your opinion. It's not that they lost, it's that they lost 8-1. The program has been around for nearly a decade and hasn't gotten to the level of competitiveness they should be at. It's almost like they peaked 3 years ago, when they lost to Moeller by 1 goal.

I've heard nothing but awesome things about Nugent, and there's 0.000000% chance he'd ever get fired (almost never happens for performance at Elder), but they need to get better or they'll be a permanently average program. And if that's their ceiling, there's no point in even having the sport.
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Old 04-30-17, 03:14 PM
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And if that's their ceiling, there's no point in even having the sport.
So based on this, only teams that will win should play?
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Old 04-30-17, 04:33 PM
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So based on this, only teams that will win should play?
Only teams that have a realistic chance at competing at the highest level. What's the point in having a lax program if they're gonna get their azz kicked EVERY year by the Top Dogs? Just have intramural squads, but don't waste the Athletic Dept's $.

Again, not saying they should actually beat these programs with regularity, but they've got to start at least making it close.
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Old 05-02-17, 09:20 PM
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On the road, they beat Beavercreek last night and Lakota East tonight as a continuation from a couple weeks ago. Elder won't make up the Milford game....Elder is on a three game winning streak . Centerville on Saturday afternoon at the Pit.

Lakota West was not better than Elder....Elder just played horribly and without energy. It was uncanny how they couldn't catch or pass that night....just a bad night.
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Old 05-10-17, 08:09 PM
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Elder beat Mason tonight 8-6.
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Old 05-10-17, 08:34 PM
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On the road, they beat Beavercreek last night and Lakota East tonight as a continuation from a couple weeks ago. Elder won't make up the Milford game....Elder is on a three game winning streak . Centerville on Saturday afternoon at the Pit.
They beat Centerville, and along with tonight's win that makes 5 in a row. Mason was also ranked #2 in the region.
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Old 05-11-17, 05:21 PM
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Elder beat Mason tonight 8-6.
Crickets from Sbutler. That guy sucks.
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Old 05-12-17, 06:24 AM
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Crickets from Sbutler. That guy sucks.
I don't have to say anything.
The record and truth speak for themselves.

Congrats to the kids on a big win.
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Old 08-18-17, 04:55 PM
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Coach Nugent stepping down: http://blog.ehsports.com/2017/08/tom...se-head-coach/
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Old 08-18-17, 04:59 PM
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Is this good news or bad news? Don't follow LAX very closely.
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Old 08-18-17, 05:02 PM
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Is this good news or bad news? Don't follow LAX very closely.
Good news; unfortunately whoever they bring in will have a huge mess to fix.
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Old 08-18-17, 05:04 PM
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It seemed to take off for a few years - now you barely hear it talked about.
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Old 08-18-17, 06:08 PM
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Good news; unfortunately whoever they bring in will have a huge mess to fix.
Don't worry, you're not getting the job. Nugent deserves credit for building the program up to respectability, but they've plateaued recently, change could help them make the next leap.
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