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Old 06-14-18, 08:56 AM
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Old 06-14-18, 09:35 AM
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For some of Mahle's starts this year, when he loses it, he loses it FAST. Riggleman may have liked Garrett's matchup and didn't want to let the inning escalate.

Also, the Reds were off Monday, Romano gave us a long start Tuesday, so the bullpen, for once, was pretty rested. Another off day today so the bullpen has been used very little this week.
This bullpen is firmly in the negative as far as being overworked. I would think you would ignore the matchup and let Mahle ride. The bullpen needs all the rest that can be afforded.
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Old 06-14-18, 10:06 AM
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Old 06-14-18, 04:01 PM
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This bullpen is firmly in the negative as far as being overworked. I would think you would ignore the matchup and let Mahle ride. The bullpen needs all the rest that can be afforded.
Ah...I'm not so sure. Lorenzen hasn't pitched since Sunday, and Floro and Brice even longer. The pen is well rested. Two off days this week. We've seen Mahle blow up fast!
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Old 06-15-18, 11:07 AM
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Ah...I'm not so sure. Lorenzen hasn't pitched since Sunday, and Floro and Brice even longer. The pen is well rested. Two off days this week. We've seen Mahle blow up fast!
So again I ask...

Are we trying to win the game and therefore play the lefty/lefty matchup? Or are we trying to develop a quality young starting pitcher?

For a minute I thought Price was back in the dugout when I saw the switch being made. Nope. Riggleman just as dumb. The Reds as an organization need to decide what their direction is. Winning that game is unimportant next to having Mahle work through a tough match-up in a key spot.

We are 4 years into this mess and we will be in the same place 4 years from now if they can't consistently stick with a plan.
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Old 06-15-18, 06:19 PM
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So again I ask...

Are we trying to win the game and therefore play the lefty/lefty matchup? Or are we trying to develop a quality young starting pitcher?

For a minute I thought Price was back in the dugout when I saw the switch being made. Nope. Riggleman just as dumb. The Reds as an organization need to decide what their direction is. Winning that game is unimportant next to having Mahle work through a tough match-up in a key spot.

We are 4 years into this mess and we will be in the same place 4 years from now if they can't consistently stick with a plan.
That was the point I was attempting to make. Let the kids build their innings and pitch counts. Let them learn to negotiate their way through a lineup the 3rd and even 4th times through.
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Old 06-15-18, 07:15 PM
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So again I ask...

Are we trying to win the game and therefore play the lefty/lefty matchup? Or are we trying to develop a quality young starting pitcher?

For a minute I thought Price was back in the dugout when I saw the switch being made. Nope. Riggleman just as dumb. The Reds as an organization need to decide what their direction is. Winning that game is unimportant next to having Mahle work through a tough match-up in a key spot.

We are 4 years into this mess and we will be in the same place 4 years from now if they can't consistently stick with a plan.
It was a simple decision, wolves82. Two of the previous four batters against Mahle got hits -- one single, one double. It was time to get him. Let him leave with a positive outcome. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Old 06-15-18, 10:28 PM
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So again I ask...

Are we trying to win the game and therefore play the lefty/lefty matchup? Or are we trying to develop a quality young starting pitcher?

For a minute I thought Price was back in the dugout when I saw the switch being made. Nope. Riggleman just as dumb. The Reds as an organization need to decide what their direction is. Winning that game is unimportant next to having Mahle work through a tough match-up in a key spot.

We are 4 years into this mess and we will be in the same place 4 years from now if they can't consistently stick with a plan.
You make too much sense.

I often find myself agreeing with you 100%.
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Old 06-15-18, 11:15 PM
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But...Mahle's going to be able to look back on that time he threw six innings of scoreless baseball vs the second worst team in baseball and be like...yep if I can dominate the Royals I can do anything
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Old 06-16-18, 11:48 PM
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Votto is racking up those RBI this year isnít he?
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Old 06-17-18, 02:11 AM
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On a positive note, Senziel played SS last night for the first time this regular season. I don't know if it was at the Reds urging or if he finally realized thats the only path to the Bigs as long as Scooter's on the team. Or at least until Scooter's shoulder fully heals and he can take a stab at LF.
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Old 06-17-18, 06:43 AM
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Votto is racking up those RBI this year isnít he?
Votto's BA RISP is .355.

His RBI total is indicative of the inability of the guys in front of him to get on base.
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Old 06-18-18, 08:31 AM
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So again I ask...

Are we trying to win the game and therefore play the lefty/lefty matchup? Or are we trying to develop a quality young starting pitcher?

For a minute I thought Price was back in the dugout when I saw the switch being made. Nope. Riggleman just as dumb. The Reds as an organization need to decide what their direction is. Winning that game is unimportant next to having Mahle work through a tough match-up in a key spot.

We are 4 years into this mess and we will be in the same place 4 years from now if they can't consistently stick with a plan.
So you are not in the position of trying to win each game each day?? Good luck with keeping the team locked in. This isn't the minor leagues. You do everything you can, each game, to win that game with the players you have available that day. Anything else will not allow you to keep the clubhouse.
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Old 06-18-18, 08:39 AM
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And how about that Billy Hamilton???
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Old 06-18-18, 08:48 AM
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Old 06-18-18, 11:02 AM
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Billy was obviously amazing on Sunday. 3 hits, 3 runs, 2 SB, and oh my that catch. He was also good last Sunday. But in between, and for a long time before last Sunday, he has been the same old Billy. The 3 hits yesterday bumped him up to BA = .197 and OBP = .285. Not close to good enough. But the Reds are like 14Red, falling in love with the highlight reel, instead of using numbers.
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Old 06-18-18, 11:05 AM
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Old 06-18-18, 11:35 AM
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Has there been any notable improvements on this team over the last 3 years ?
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Old 06-18-18, 12:09 PM
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Has there been any notable improvements on this team over the last 3 years ?
The $5 16 oz beers they sell just outside the stadium.
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Old 06-18-18, 02:14 PM
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Billy was obviously amazing on Sunday. 3 hits, 3 runs, 2 SB, and oh my that catch. He was also good last Sunday. But in between, and for a long time before last Sunday, he has been the same old Billy. The 3 hits yesterday bumped him up to BA = .197 and OBP = .285. Not close to good enough. But the Reds are like 14Red, falling in love with the highlight reel, instead of using numbers.
A salute to Billy's performance on Sunday -- his best of the season. Clearly, though, the Reds must have more from him on a consistent basis for him to continue to be an integral part of the team.
For example......Yes, he was indeed 3 for 3 Sunday. The 3 hits matched how many he had gotten in his previous 40 at bats, going back to May 31.
I hope he can keep it up.
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Old 06-18-18, 03:46 PM
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I was being a bit trolling about Billy...but only a little. My contention all along has been that Billy Hamilton, on this current team, should be in centerfield every day. We don't have a better centerfielder, and Billy can do things that no one else can do on a baseball field.
Yes, I know he's hitting under .200. So is Adam Duvall. Jesse Winker can't run. So we don't have 3 outfielders better than Billy on a consistent basis.
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Old 06-18-18, 04:42 PM
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Old 06-18-18, 05:23 PM
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The Reds should sign Harvey to a 2yr/$5M deal.

He's had 4 decent outings and 3 bad ones. He has shown flashes of his old self. The above offer would be no riskier than the type of deals they've done in the last couple offseasons for guys who have far less pedigree and success.
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Old 06-18-18, 05:24 PM
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^How sad is it that the above might actually be correct?
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Old 06-19-18, 01:39 AM
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The Reds should sign Harvey to a 2yr/$5M deal.

He's had 4 decent outings and 3 bad ones. He has shown flashes of his old self. The above offer would be no riskier than the type of deals they've done in the last couple offseasons for guys who have far less pedigree and success.
Where does Harvey fit in the presumed starting rotation next year or after that? I also don't see Harvey resigning with Cincinnati unless something with his personality changes. He's always loved big city life but perhaps his attitude has changed.
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Old 06-19-18, 06:41 AM
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Where does Harvey fit in the presumed starting rotation next year or after that? I also don't see Harvey resigning with Cincinnati unless something with his personality changes. He's always loved big city life but perhaps his attitude has changed.
Disco, Mahle, Castillo, Harvey and an undetermined number 1 Free Agent (Dallas Keuchel??).

If this organization is serious about competing they will need to sign a legit starter, Develop Disco, Castillo and Mahle into MOR starters. Harvey at $2.5-3.5M a year would be an affordable risk as a number 5 starter with good upside. Maybe he isn't interested in Cincy but it is worth an offer.

Keuchel is interesting.... He is clearly the number 5 starter on the Astros making $13M. He is a FA after this season. He probably won't be on the postseason roster unless something happens. The Astros can secure a WC without him in August and Sept. Winning the division might be tough though. Would the Astros be willing to part with their most expensive and underperforming starter for 2 months for Robert Stephenson or some other AAAA prospect? Trading for Keuchel would give the Reds 8-10 starts to see him in person and in GABP to decide if a LTC is worth it. It would be a very long shot but something worth exploring.
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Old 06-19-18, 07:08 AM
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I was being a bit trolling about Billy...but only a little. My contention all along has been that Billy Hamilton, on this current team, should be in centerfield every day. We don't have a better centerfielder, and Billy can do things that no one else can do on a baseball field.
Yes, I know he's hitting under .200. So is Adam Duvall. Jesse Winker can't run. So we don't have 3 outfielders better than Billy on a consistent basis.
True, in the short term (2.5 months of this season). But we also know that this is Billy's ceiling. This is close to his career number in terms of OBP. This is who he is.

We also know Duvall's career averages. Ceiling is much higher, lots of past productivity, let him hit every day. We don't know about Winker yet, but that stroke has gap power written all over it. I want to see him more.
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Old 06-19-18, 07:11 AM
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Disco, Mahle, Castillo, Harvey and an undetermined number 1 Free Agent (Dallas Keuchel??).

If this organization is serious about competing they will need to sign a legit starter, Develop Disco, Castillo and Mahle into MOR starters. Harvey at $2.5-3.5M a year would be an affordable risk as a number 5 starter with good upside. Maybe he isn't interested in Cincy but it is worth an offer.

Keuchel is interesting.... He is clearly the number 5 starter on the Astros making $13M. He is a FA after this season. He probably won't be on the postseason roster unless something happens. The Astros can secure a WC without him in August and Sept. Winning the division might be tough though. Would the Astros be willing to part with their most expensive and underperforming starter for 2 months for Robert Stephenson or some other AAAA prospect? Trading for Keuchel would give the Reds 8-10 starts to see him in person and in GABP to decide if a LTC is worth it. It would be a very long shot but something worth exploring.
An interesting idea, to be sure. But your faith in Disco, Mahle and Castillo is higher than mine.

If the rebuilding Reds, in a 100 loss season, trade a pitching prospect for 8 weeks of a possible ace, I will eat my Reds hat. And then vomit. And then find a new team to root for after 47 years of being a Reds fan.
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Old 06-19-18, 07:39 AM
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I was being a bit trolling about Billy...but only a little. My contention all along has been that Billy Hamilton, on this current team, should be in centerfield every day. We don't have a better centerfielder, and Billy can do things that no one else can do on a baseball field.
Yes, I know he's hitting under .200. So is Adam Duvall. Jesse Winker can't run. So we don't have 3 outfielders better than Billy on a consistent basis.
The gigantic difference is that Duvall has had productivity in the past. Billy has not and is nothing more than a liability at the plate.
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