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Old 04-19-17, 08:13 AM
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Brent Ullery named new Head Coach at Centerville

Good to see CHS administration go with an Elk & ex-Buckeye. This should help bring Pride back to Centerville. Good luck Coach!
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Old 04-19-17, 08:24 AM
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Met him once, great guy & very knowledgeable. Sweet hire Centerville.
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Old 04-19-17, 08:32 AM
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So in summation:
Elks fire Ron Ullery.
Elks have 1 good year in a new offense and still flame out rd 1 to a 16 seed.
Elks begin to struggle as a program and lose numbers.
Elks coach resigns for honorable family reasons.
Elks hire fired, successful previous coach son with no HC experience at any
level.

My take from this is that when Dad Ullery was let go the coaching pool was great with a good reputation in the area of the school. This time the pool was so good they hire a guy on the previous staff with no HC or I believe coordinating experience? I do not wish to bash Mr. Ullery but this seems like a weird, somewhat desperate hire by the AD for a school like Centerville. I hope I do not come across wrong, I do wish Mr. Ullery success.
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Old 04-19-17, 08:36 AM
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So in summation:
Elks fire Ron Ullery.
Elks have 1 good year in a new offense and still flame out rd 1 to a 16 seed.
Elks begin to struggle as a program and lose numbers.
Elks coach resigns for honorable family reasons.
Elks hire fired, successful previous coach son with no HC experience at any
level.

My take from this is that when Dad Ullery was let go the coaching pool was great with a good reputation in the area of the school. This time the pool was so good they hire a guy on the previous staff with no HC or I believe coordinating experience? I do not wish to bash Mr. Ullery but this seems like a weird, somewhat desperate hire by the AD for a school like Centerville. I hope I do not come across wrong, I do wish Mr. Ullery success.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Old 04-19-17, 08:43 AM
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It's a Centerville guy and that is good. Not sure about his qualifications but he has a challenge ahead of him. Dumbment set the program back and it may take awhile to turn things around.
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Old 04-19-17, 08:48 AM
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Established coaches could not run fast enough away from this job. No one wanted it. No one.
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Old 04-19-17, 04:42 PM
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Established coaches could not run fast enough away from this job. No one wanted it. No one.
Several questions -
1. Why hire someone with no Head Coaching or OC/DC experience?
2. Puckett has now been passed over twice, will he stay?
3. Why named Interim HC?
4. Will he change the offense back to the triple option?
5. Will he survive after this year's Senior class graduates (very thin on talent for 3 years)?
6. Heard some candidates that are current HCs pulled out of the process after initial interview. Why?
7. With a new baby, how will he juggle time commitment with a small staff?
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Old 04-19-17, 10:09 AM
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Good hire.
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Old 04-19-17, 10:30 AM
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I am curious as to what makes this a good hire to those in the Centerville loop? Is it just because he is a "Centerville" guy? What shows it in his current resume that leads you to believe this? This is a general question not meant to be aggressive. I look at it and scratch my head as a what the heck Im confused hire. So what am I missing?
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Old 04-19-17, 10:57 AM
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I am not a Centerville person, but having worked with Coach Ullery for several years at Dublin Coffman, I can say that he is a very good math teacher and was a well regarded assistant coach here at Coffman. The kind of coach that others assumed would be a head coach one day. Ended up leaving Coffman to return home to Centerville to work.
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Old 04-19-17, 11:02 AM
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I am curious as to what makes this a good hire to those in the Centerville loop? Is it just because he is a "Centerville" guy? What shows it in his current resume that leads you to believe this? This is a general question not meant to be aggressive. I look at it and scratch my head as a what the heck Im confused hire. So what am I missing?
After graduation from Centerville (2003), B. Ullery was a walk-on receiver for OSU for 4 years under Tressell. After graduation he coached at Centerville for few years before getting a teaching/coaching position at Dublin Coffman, then back to Centerville in 2014. He has only coached WO's, was just appointed the OC position at Centerville before RR quit. No doubt he can coach up receivers. There will be a learning curve for sure. He is a smart, hard working guy who would have been a HC someday, his time just arrived a bit early than anticipated. Luckily he will be coaching a talented, veteran team and know's what it takes be a successful coach at this level.

This hire wont totally heal all the wounds created with the elder Ullery firing but it's at least a bridge back to what is missing in the program.
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Old 04-19-17, 01:05 PM
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LMFAO....

Run a great coach out of town.
Change your system only to get same result before falling apart.
Hire the son of the coach you ran off.

Wtf is going on with Centerville??
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Old 04-19-17, 01:32 PM
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If you had said Centerville (or any GWOC school for that matter) was going to hire someone who had never been a HC or even a Co-ordinator) it probably would be panned. I know B.Ullery will have the support of the old guard as they want to return to PHYSICAL teams. His biggest problem will be; 1. will the Administration back him as he makes more demands and 2. will the parents of PLAYERS back him.
When schools start going soft and promote ASSESTS (self-esteem,etc.) that don't mention Self-Discipline or HARD WORK its tough to fight that mind-set.
It's good that he has coached at other places because what worked for Bob Gregg and even his Dad may be harder to implement. Wish him good luck and hopes he gets the backing he needs.
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Old 04-19-17, 03:01 PM
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A DDN news report of the hiring of Brent Ullery:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/sport...3XuuoT9gOmqhJ/

Congrats and good luck to the new interim head football coach!
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Old 04-19-17, 03:42 PM
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After graduation from Centerville (2003), B. Ullery was a walk-on receiver for OSU for 4 years under Tressell. After graduation he coached at Centerville for few years before getting a teaching/coaching position at Dublin Coffman, then back to Centerville in 2014. He has only coached WO's, was just appointed the OC position at Centerville before RR quit. No doubt he can coach up receivers. There will be a learning curve for sure. He is a smart, hard working guy who would have been a HC someday, his time just arrived a bit early than anticipated. Luckily he will be coaching a talented, veteran team and know's what it takes be a successful coach at this level.

This hire wont totally heal all the wounds created with the elder Ullery firing but it's at least a bridge back to what is missing in the program.
He was the interim OC in 2014 when Adams was out for 5 weeks.
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Old 04-19-17, 03:45 PM
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First off congrats to coach Ullery , he did a good job At Coffman and I think he will be a great HC at some point . As far as Hard Work and Discipline is concerned , I think all schools no matter how " SOFT" you think they are, believe in hard work and discipline not only I the obvious football sense but academically and from a personal standpoint.

Yes I agree the " SELF ESTEEM " movement as it were went too far no question , I am not as gung ho as a detractor on kids getting trophy's as some seem to be or that second place or third place ribbons are worthless as others opine or applaud a kid who throws a runner up trophy in the trash .

I don't think any school administration has a mind set that doesn't promote discipline and hard work and that football program have some kind of battle fighting that " Mind Set ". These dynamics are paramount to achieving , getting better and improving in any activity.

From my experience in youth athletics is getting a trophy sometimes is a cool thing for marginal athletes when young, no damage done or illusions of grandeur that I have seen. In fact kids are smarter and more aware than we realize in many instances, .

With my own kids and their teammates I saw them have a healthy regard for where they fit in in terms of the athletic pecking order if you will, knew there place in that whether they got a trophy or not, they knew they were better than some kids and not as good as others, getting a trophy or ribbon for participation or third place at times { Some trophy's were for tournament titles or a personal achievement } did not dissuade them from knowing their place or give them a false illusion of where they stood. or make them SOFT.

Ullery was a receiver, is he going back to the run centric option stuff they were doing for years?
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Old 04-19-17, 05:10 PM
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1-my guess would be upside.

2-not sure why he would leave, he is still DC @ Cville.....and his defense has had some struggles the last few years.

3-I agree with you on that tag?

4-no chance, he came from a passing oriented offense @ Coffman.

5-yes, if he puts in the work and demands a lot from all grades.

6-yes, heard the same. My understanding was because of Dement.

7-not the first or last with kids, baby.

All good questions. I think it was a good hire personally. He can instill the true meaning of Elk Pride, and also bring a balanced passing offense.......and make all parties/parents/ administration happy!
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Old 04-20-17, 08:14 AM
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I don't have much to say on the Ullery hire. I'm not emotionally tied to Centerville. It seems like an odd hire but I can say that at Miamisburg there was that, "You hire Burg guys to run to program" mentality going on for a long time in Miamisburg. The program flat lined and they finally broke the mold and hired an old rival coach, who wasn't a Burg guy, to run the program and the rest is history. I think the main difference is Channel was embraced by the Miamisburg community day 1. Good luck to the Elks. I wish we could flip Wayne for Centerville every once in awhile. Let Springboro play Wayne for a few years.
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Old 04-20-17, 09:36 AM
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I don't have much to say on the Ullery hire. I'm not emotionally tied to Centerville. It seems like an odd hire but I can say that at Miamisburg there was that, "You hire Burg guys to run to program" mentality going on for a long time in Miamisburg. The program flat lined and they finally broke the mold and hired an old rival coach, who wasn't a Burg guy, to run the program and the rest is history. I think the main difference is Channel was embraced by the Miamisburg community day 1. Good luck to the Elks. I wish we could flip Wayne for Centerville every once in awhile. Let Springboro play Wayne for a few years.
This. Hire the best guy possible, not the best guy who grew up/played there. If the best guy happens to be "family", then so be it.
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Old 04-20-17, 09:55 AM
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This. Hire the best guy possible, not the best guy who grew up/played there. If the best guy happens to be "family", then so be it.
The future will tell if he is the right guy. He has a great resource in his father. As an outsider, I just expected Centerville to land an established coach. Wayne went to Florida to find Jay. I think Wayne people are happy they didn't go with a Wayne guy. Look whats happened in Miamisburg with Channel. I think we can all agree that football is the one sport that coaching is critical for success. I hope Ullery can return the tradition to Centerville. I mean Centerville was the #1 seed not that long ago. Centerville football hasn't flat lined like Northmont in the 90's and Miamisburg from 2005 till Channel arrived. I've wondered for awhile if the rise of Springboro, Lebanon, and now Miamisburg has had anything to do with the decline of Centerville football. Centerville had a monopoly on successful families wanting to live in South Dayton for a long time and it seems plausible that the rise of the other South Dayton cities has caused the talent to spread out in South Dayton. Also, Alter was not Alter the last time the Elks had a team that could win a state title (1999). That was the best team in Ohio.
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Old 04-20-17, 12:46 PM
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The future will tell if he is the right guy. He has a great resource in his father. As an outsider, I just expected Centerville to land an established coach. Wayne went to Florida to find Jay. I think Wayne people are happy they didn't go with a Wayne guy. Look whats happened in Miamisburg with Channel. I think we can all agree that football is the one sport that coaching is critical for success. I hope Ullery can return the tradition to Centerville. I mean Centerville was the #1 seed not that long ago. Centerville football hasn't flat lined like Northmont in the 90's and Miamisburg from 2005 till Channel arrived. I've wondered for awhile if the rise of Springboro, Lebanon, and now Miamisburg has had anything to do with the decline of Centerville football. Centerville had a monopoly on successful families wanting to live in South Dayton for a long time and it seems plausible that the rise of the other South Dayton cities has caused the talent to spread out in South Dayton. Also, Alter was not Alter the last time the Elks had a team that could win a state title (1999). That was the best team in Ohio.
The rise of Lebanon ? Lebanon was last in the West last season. Lebanon has not beaten Boro since 2011. Last time they beat Burg was 2013. Centerville was just plain horrible last season, and that was the first time Lebanon has ever beaten Centerville.
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Old 04-20-17, 03:44 PM
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I've wondered for awhile if the rise of Springboro, Lebanon, and now Miamisburg has had anything to do with the decline of Centerville football. Centerville had a monopoly on successful families wanting to live in South Dayton for a long time and it seems plausible that the rise of the other South Dayton cities has caused the talent to spread out in South Dayton.
I've done some GWOC stuff with middle school basketball in the last few years, and those three schools definitely seemed to be trending upward with talent. I believe I've stated before on the basketball board that I'd expect all three to start performing at a fairly high level within the next couple years.

As far as football goes, you may be on to something here as Springboro and Miamisburg have been ticking upwards recently.
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I am sure Brett will probably hire his father as an assistant coach, which would be a good move.
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I think it is a good hire as well. I hope he wins nine regular season games every year.
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Solid Hire
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This goes right along with what I heard, everyone with experience said no way, speaks volumes that this is an interim hire. Not easy for Ullery or any coach but at least he gets his chance to force them to remove that tag, that's huge for an assistant with no experience of true responsibility. If it does open back up, according to coaches the job won't be attractive until the people running the district change or wake up.

But if this senior class is as talented as people say he should get Centerville back to where they expect to be for at least one season especially with his Coffman background which means solid regular season and early playoff exit.
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Old 04-21-17, 01:03 PM
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Coach Puckett right now https://i.imgur.com/Xpo01Q4.mp4
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I'm not sure what you mean by bitching comment? New Elk, Old Elk, I have not heard one single person confuse or argue the lack of physical or mental toughness since the loss to Lakota West in the playoffs 3 years ago.

I don't know who was more qualified, but the truth is the entire staff and players need to get a lot better. I hope they can all work together and spend 99% of the time on discipline & toughness. That alone will win 8 games on their schedule......it did for 40 years. If he can throw on some creative play calls/schemes, then maybe a 9 win season is possible.






QUOTE=HSFootballFan1972;6753949]Lets hope not. Puckett is a true competitor and embodies everything that the history of Elk football is.

I imagine that Dumbent decided to go with Ullery since it satisfies all the "old line" football guys bitching about how tough the program used to be blended with the new passing offense (remember - Ullery called all plays and essentially was HC of the JV guys), he wasn't only a WR coach.

I think it could have gone either way, (Puckett or Ullery) but Dumbent is such a panty waste that he took the safe route.[/QUOTE]
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I'm conflicted as I would like to have seen the AD go after a Cincinnati GCL OC or DC. I don't believe coaches were turning down the opportunity to apply for the Centerville job. The interim tag is not a vote of confidence either. I don't know anything about Brent other than he worked hard to earn a spot at OSU and is probably a very focused individual. It will be interesting as to who he hires to help support him, but then again, the interim tag will probably keep key coaches away as they may be looking for a new job after the one year is up.
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Believe it. Numerous posts on this thread have stated it and I've heard the same from those in the coaching circles. The leaders of that school are no longer thought of like they once were.
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