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Old 01-07-18, 03:33 PM
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The Bills vs Jags playoff game features two excellent RBs in McCoy and Fournette, but the offenses are struggling...not just due to the play of the defenses...but because Taylor and Bortles are mediocre QBs.
And there are actually people advocating for the Browns to get Taylor...
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Old 01-07-18, 03:34 PM
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Oder of importance by position (no proof just my opinion)
1) QB
2) DL
3) DB/OL
4) WR/TE
5) LB
6) RB
7) K
8) P
9) KR
I would agree. Most football people will say the most important attributes of a team are having a great passer, and having a pass rush to harrass the QB.
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Old 01-07-18, 03:40 PM
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Id list importance this way

1) QB
2) OL/DL
3) DB/LB
4) WR
5) TE/RB
6) K
7) P/ST
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Old 01-07-18, 03:42 PM
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And there are actually people advocating for the Browns to get Taylor...
I didn't advocate to get Taylor ... was my bet is what they will do ... because he will come cheap ... but now my bet is AJ McCarren
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Old 01-07-18, 04:08 PM
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You beat me to it. I was going to ask 'saders if he was enjoying this battle of stout defenses and non-elite QBs. They've got Fournette and Shady..... I don't understand...



Can anyone watching the painful game in Jax deny that with cap space and 2 top 5s we have to take some shot at an elite QB ? We have an O-line, we have the beginning of a fine defense - it's time.

No Saquon unless the new personnel evaluators think Cousins or another FA QB are the best option.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:10 PM
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And there are actually people advocating for the Browns to get Taylor...
Most I've heard on the radio have an "urban" sound to them.......coincidentally or not, many of those callers also like Lamar

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Old 01-07-18, 04:11 PM
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Order of importance by position (no proof just my opinion)
1) QB
2) DL
3) DB/OL
4) WR/TE
5) LB
6) RB
7) K
8) P
9) KR
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I’d list importance this way—

1) QB
2) OL/DL
3) DB/LB
4) WR
5) TE/RB
6) K
7) P/ST
Just for clarity - Generally speaking, I take it. Not for Cleveland '18 draft picks, right ?
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Old 01-07-18, 04:14 PM
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And you can win them without elite WR's. Their top 3 receivers when they won the SB last year were Edleman, Amendola, and Hogan. 3 white guys, one of which was a college lacrosse player.

Trying to replicate the Patriots model is useless unless you have the best coach & QB in NFL history.
Precision route runners and a precision passer. The whole thing in NE goes to crap without multiple reliable targets and an all-seeing QB.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:16 PM
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Right, hence why trying to duplicate the NE model is a fool's errand. Unless you can get the best coach in NFL history and the best QB. Otherwise, you need weapons in addition to a good QB.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:24 PM
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Right, hence why trying to duplicate the NE model is a fool's errand. Unless you can get the best coach in NFL history and the best QB. Otherwise, you need weapons in addition to a good QB.
no doubt

One quick, kinda thick, smart whitey slot WR works anywhere that the QB has a semi-quick release and a tall hands/burner threat to stretch it, though.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:27 PM
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Right, hence why trying to duplicate the NE model is a fool's errand. Unless you can get the best coach in NFL history and the best QB. Otherwise, you need weapons in addition to a good QB.
I guess they had the best NFL coach in history, but they fired him
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Old 01-07-18, 04:30 PM
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I didn't advocate to get Taylor ... was my bet is what they will do ... because he will come cheap ... but now my bet is AJ McCarren
If AJ wins his FA hearing and it's not a trade, he'd be a fine bridge to a top-potential pick. He'll never be a top QB without everything else aligning, though. Expend little or no draft capital for AJ.

The Browns have 0 "extra" draft picks.

NONE
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Old 01-07-18, 04:36 PM
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I guess they had the best NFL coach in history, but they fired him
Your post is a fool's troll. No shocker there.

It accidentally raises a question of how patient the Cleveland fans would have been with Bill, though, had Art not taken the team. Bill's "diminishing skills" assessment/benching of Kosar was very unpopular.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:39 PM
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Your post is a fool's troll. No shocker there.

It accidentally raises a question of how patient the Cleveland fans would have been with Bill, though, had Art not taken the team. Bill's "diminishing skills" assessment/benching of Kosar was very unpopular.
Stop being a jerk, and labeling people, when you don't even know what you are talking about
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Old 01-07-18, 04:45 PM
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Stop being a jerk, and labeling people, when you don't even know what you are talking about
You couldn't find your own azz with both hands and a flashlight, as proven by your last month of posts, but I "don't even know what (I am) talking about". Got it.
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Old 01-07-18, 04:47 PM
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You couldn't find your own azz with both hands and a flashlight, as proven by your last month of posts, but I "don't even know what (I am) talking about". Got it.
I was just making a post about Belichick. Not even close to trolling. You are ahole
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Old 01-07-18, 04:54 PM
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Last 15 SB winners leading rushers
2002/2003 season - Michael Pittman (Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
2003/2004 season - Antoine Smith/Kevin Faulk (New England Patriots)
2004/2005 season - Corey Dillon (New England Patriots) *
2005/2006 season - Willie Parker (Pittsburgh Steelers)
2006/2007 season - Dominic Rhodes (Indianapolis Colts)
2007/2008 season - Brandon Jacobs (New York Giants)
2008/2009 season - Willie Parker (Pittsburgh Steelers)
2009/2010 season - Pierre Thomas most yards, Mike Bell most attempts (New Orleans Saints)
2010/2011 season - Brandon Jackson/James Starks (Green Bay Packers)
2011/2012 season - Ahmad Bradshaw (New York Giants)
2012/2013 season - Ray Rice (Baltimore Ravens) *
2013/2014 season - Marshawn Lynch (Seattle Seahawks) *
2014/2015 season - Shane Vereen , though by committee (New England Patriots)
2015/2016 season - Ronnie Hillman (Denver Broncos)
2016/2017 season - LaGarrett Blount (New England Patroits)

Littered with HOFers
No one said anything about hall of famers, and no one said you don't need a good QB, too.

Unless you can guarantee your team is going to land a generational QB talent like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, or Tom Brady, you'd best have a good RB. In other words, take the RB when you have the chance.
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Old 01-07-18, 05:04 PM
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To me the writing is on the wall ... the Browns are going to take a QB with the first pick ... I think it will be Darnold ... safest pick ... or if Dorsey has guts ... Allen ... the one with the most upside ... with either of these picks(or Rosen) they are going to get a bridge/mentor QB ... the best of those would have been McClown ... but that ship has sailed ... so who is next ... McCarren (if FA) or Taylor or someone like Case Keenen (from last year) ... they are not going to want to pay a lot for the bridge QB. Alex Smith would be nice ... I just don't know if that is going to happen.

Other things the Browns need ... a slot WR ... a DB ... a RB to pair with Duke ... and an OL if Thomas calls it quits ... I would like to see them sign a few FAs in these spots so the can just take BPA with the rest of the draft.

They could go from 0-16 to 8-8 if they play their cards right ... starting with a quality OC!
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Old 01-07-18, 05:04 PM
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I was just making a post about Belichick. Not even close to trolling. You are ahole
Agree with this post 100%.
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Old 01-07-18, 05:15 PM
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No one said anything about hall of famers, and no one said you don't need a good QB, too.

Unless you can guarantee your team is going to land a generational QB talent like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, or Tom Brady, you'd best have a good RB. In other words, take the RB when you have the chance.
I get what you are saying ... I just feel that to get Barkley they are going to have to draft him 1st ... the Colts are going to take him with the 3rd pick other wise ... and a QB is a greater need and they are going to want to guarantee they get the one they want with the first pick ... second Minka Fitzpatrick is the best player in the draft (IMO) ... he is just too good to pass on with the 4th pick ... you can get good RBs later in the draft ... in fact many years the best value picks are RB later in the draft ... like Bell and Hunt ... in my opinion, they will be able to get a really good RB with one of their 2nd round picks.
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To me the writing is on the wall ... the Browns are going to take a QB with the first pick ... I think it will be Darnold ... safest pick ... or if Dorsey has guts ... Allen ... the one with the most upside ... with either of these picks(or Rosen) they are going to get a bridge/mentor QB ... the best of those would have been McClown ... but that ship has sailed ... so who is next ... McCarren (if FA) or Taylor or someone like Case Keenen (from last year) ... they are not going to want to pay a lot for the bridge QB. Alex Smith would be nice ... I just don't know if that is going to happen.

Other things the Browns need ... a slot WR ... a DB ... a RB to pair with Duke ... and an OL if Thomas calls it quits ... I would like to see them sign a few FAs in these spots so the can just take BPA with the rest of the draft.

They could go from 0-16 to 8-8 if they play their cards right ... starting with a quality OC!
It will be difficult for them to go wrong with 2 top 4 picks; Darnold, Barkley, and Fitzpatrick are all good selections. I just think Barkley and Fitzpatrick are better than any of the QBs.

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I was just making a post about Belichick. Not even close to trolling. You are ahole
Well, Modell fired him after the move to Baltimore was announced and the team was renamed. At the very least, you are a dimwit
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It will be difficult for them to go wrong with 2 top 4 picks; Darnold, Barkley, and Fitzpatrick are all good selections. I just think Barkley and Fitzpatrick are better than any of the QBs.
Not at playing QB.
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No one said anything about hall of famers, and no one said you don't need a good QB, too.

Unless you can guarantee your team is going to land a generational QB talent like Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, or Tom Brady, you'd best have a good RB. In other words, take the RB when you have the chance.
Well, how about Rookie of the Year in 2017 ?

Kamara or Hunt ? Which third rounder would you vote for ?
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I'd take Fournette if I had to pick one. Kamara and Hunt stepped right into potent offenses, Fournette went to the freaking Jaguars.
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Let’s not forget the Browns have enough ammo to move into the first round a third time if a QB they may like, such as Allen, slides toward the latter half of the first round.

The more likely scenario, however, is they take a QB at #1. Probably Darnold. I fully expect Dorsey to bring over a veteran QB to start for at least 2018.
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I'd take Fournette if I had to pick one. Kamara and Hunt stepped right into potent offenses, Fournette went to the freaking Jaguars.
And you can't even play him on 3rd and 5. Stupid post is stupid
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Cabe's going off the reservation again
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Well, Modell fired him after the move to Baltimore was announced and the team was renamed. At the very least, you are a dimwit
You still continue to be an ahole
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You still continue to be an ahole
Well, hes right about Belichick. He was the coach of the Browns to the literal end of the franchise in Cleveland. He was fired by Art Modell after the team had moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens.
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