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Old 07-17-17, 01:23 PM
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Nah. Just a scene that should have been cut
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Old 07-17-17, 02:05 PM
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I agree with you. You forgot about the Wonder Women warriors of Dorne. One of the most awful show story lines.
Yep. It's kind of out of control, thank god the best characters are men. IE Jon Snow, Davos, Tyrion. Hopefully Euron kills the Sand Snakes.
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Old 07-17-17, 02:52 PM
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I hope Dorne is completely cut out. There's really no reason to bring them back
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Old 07-17-17, 03:08 PM
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I thought it was just okay, but I'm not a huge fan overall. I enjoy the show, but I'm not a big fan of implausible fiction like the White Walkers, dragons and the whole Brandon Stark story line.

I think Sansa is on her way to betraying Jon Stark beyond just spouting off at meetings. Hopefully, she and that puke Petyr Baelish meet a common demise.

I think they're setting up Arya whacking Cersei in the last episode, wearing the face and ________ of her brother Jaime.
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Old 07-17-17, 03:43 PM
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The issue with Sansa was her publicly questioning Jon in front of his men. You would never call out your boss in front of clients.
I agree but like others have said she's inexperienced and has a lot of motivation to see everyone who helped Ramsey suffer.
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Old 07-17-17, 03:47 PM
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Did GoT just jump the shark with Ed Sheeran last night?
Not for me. I didn't know the guy from Adam but I just saw on yahoo that he's supposed to be some kind of famous singer? IMO that whole scene was one of the best in last nights episode and the only way they jumped the shark would have been if a leather jacket clad Fonzi was in it!
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Old 07-17-17, 03:48 PM
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I hope Dorne is completely cut out. There's really no reason to bring them back
Send the Dragons over for an aerial bombardment and be done with it.
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Old 07-17-17, 04:11 PM
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So who are you rooting for to take the throne? Dany? Snow? Someone else
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Old 07-17-17, 04:19 PM
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So who are you rooting for to take the throne? Dany? Snow? Someone else
Dany marries Jon Snow and they rule happily ever after with Tyrian as the hand of the land (or whatever the damn title is). Sansa marries someone nice and rules over the North and Brienne becomes the high commander guarding the Wall and scarring all the White Walkers away. Arya travels down to Dorn and shows the lady's down there what a true assassin looks like and she takes over that Kingdom. The Spider becomes grant Measter of Westros. Oh and Little Finger is killed during the battle of the dead (running away but not quite fast enough). Sam is given control of that Maester college.
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Old 07-17-17, 04:53 PM
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So who are you rooting for to take the throne? Dany? Snow? Someone else
Nobody should end up king.
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Old 07-17-17, 05:00 PM
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Dany marries Jon Snow and they rule happily ever after with Tyrian as the hand of the land (or whatever the damn title is). Sansa marries someone nice and rules over the North and Brienne becomes the high commander guarding the Wall and scarring all the White Walkers away. Arya travels down to Dorn and shows the lady's down there what a true assassin looks like and she takes over that Kingdom. The Spider becomes grant Measter of Westros. Oh and Little Finger is killed during the battle of the dead (running away but not quite fast enough). Sam is given control of that Maester college.
I don't root for incest
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Old 07-17-17, 05:07 PM
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Never seen an episode of this.
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Old 07-17-17, 07:30 PM
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Did GoT just jump the shark with Ed Sheeran last night?
Yeah his cameo was stupid
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Old 07-17-17, 09:40 PM
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Did GoT just jump the shark with Ed Sheeran last night?
already did with Ian McShane. They've entered the "let's get all our good friends a guestshot" stage. Sure the dedicated fanboys are going to say this was great, because it would hurt too much to say otherwise. It was a poorly laid out snoozefest. In the big picture, it will probably fit in but I'd hoped with the fewer eps, they'd be tighter packed and move the story along. Like any middle ager, the body is stretching in every direction.

Is he done changing pots yet?
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Old 07-17-17, 09:46 PM
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They brought in Ian McShane because they needed a guy who could deliver the lines. He's a solid actor, not an HBO suck-tit
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Old 07-18-17, 06:28 AM
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already did with Ian McShane.
At least Ian McShane is an actor
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Old 07-18-17, 07:52 AM
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At least Ian McShane is an actor
there's a point. Would have been nice if he'd both acted and been used as an actor. I'm betting the number of cameos will begin climbing.
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Old 07-18-17, 09:35 AM
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For everyone complaining about Ian McShane and Ed Sheeran, let's not forget that a few years ago, George RR Martin held a fundraiser for a Santa Fe, NM wolf sanctuary where the top donors would be written into the ASOIAF book series and then killed off.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...0-000-20140606
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Old 07-18-17, 11:44 AM
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For everyone complaining about Ian McShane and Ed Sheeran, let's not forget that a few years ago, George RR Martin held a fundraiser for a Santa Fe, NM wolf sanctuary where the top donors would be written into the ASOIAF book series and then killed off.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...0-000-20140606
Had to know about it before I could not forget about it.

Clever bit of fundraising.
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Old 07-18-17, 12:36 PM
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I made better use of my time by watching Breaking Bad reruns on AMC.
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At least Ian McShane is an actor
A damn good actor as well. I don't really know much about Sheeran, I guess he's polarizing, but it's not like his character impacted the story. There's no reason for it to be this big of a discussion point.
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Old 07-18-17, 06:48 PM
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A damn good actor as well. I don't really know much about Sheeran, I guess he's polarizing, but it's not like his character impacted the story. There's no reason for it to be this big of a discussion point.
I hope the cameo bug isn't something we have to suffer through for two seasons.

McShane's was jarring for me because I actually knew who he was and I really like some of his roles. This was, IMO a fairly uninspired effort but at least the character did have impact.

I went right by Sheeran's until I saw the headlines it made but I can see the point that it would throw someone out of the story same as I was with McShane, at least on first watch. Any reasonable person should be over it on second watch.
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Old 07-18-17, 07:05 PM
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A damn good actor as well. I don't really know much about Sheeran, I guess he's polarizing, but it's not like his character impacted the story. There's no reason for it to be this big of a discussion point.
I just asked the question. Apparently people DO think it's worthy of discussion...
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Old 07-19-17, 02:41 AM
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I just asked the question. Apparently people DO think it's worthy of discussion...
"big"

He, like I might have been thinking more globally. The guy had to shut down his twitter, which I imagine is a big deal. So I agree it shouldn't be so "big" a deal that people feel the need to harass the guy.

The appearance doesn't seem to merit all the discussion but the public response to it might. I think that goes to your question. "Jumped the shark?" Yes I think the cameos can distract from the story. I think it seems to qualify under one of the definitions I see added to the term from its original intent. As the show is at an increasing popularity, I can't say the motivation for the cameos was to distract from a decreasing quality or popularity, in any way. I think more they contribute to a decline,
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This seems like a good idea

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Old 07-20-17, 08:46 AM
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^^^
Let's just say this is not going over well at all; can you see the imagery of this subject matter with a GOT type treatment? Also, isn't this too much like Amazon's "The Man in the High Castle" where the US loses WW II? Dumb plagiarized idea and it should be killed.
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Old 07-20-17, 09:27 AM
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The Man in the High Castle is pretty decent.
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Old 07-20-17, 10:54 AM
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Never seen an episode of this.
I never had either till this week. My son is a big fan so I rented Season 1 from Red Box and watched. I think its rather well done. We don't have HBO so I'll find other ways to watch but not in any hurry.
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Old 07-20-17, 12:48 PM
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Let's just say this is not going over well at all; can you see the imagery of this subject matter with a GOT type treatment? Also, isn't this too much like Amazon's "The Man in the High Castle" where the US loses WW II? Dumb plagiarized idea and it should be killed.
Plagiarized? From where?

Just being alternate history, a common genre, doesn't seem to qualify as "plagiarism" to me. It's theirs to flop or not but I don't recall this particular topic even being addressed, let alone a copy of a plot.

If they've something in mind they think they can accomplish with this storyline, I'd wonder what it is. The country has embraced realistic approaches to the topic of "American slavery," so I'd think the writers best be ready for the defensive if they make accusations if it flops. If they make the Confederates stereotypes, they'll cause conflict because that shouldn't be done. If they make the Confederates shades of grey, they'll cause conflict because there's too big a segment of population that doesn't want to hear that reality. If it's only point is to call out hypocrisies of the Union, that's going to have a small audience. I'd imagine they already have half the country predicting another "white guys bad" show.

And mostly, all these topics have been discussed ad nauseam, what are they going to find new?

Seems like a lose-lose idea to me but maybe they'll surprise.
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Seems like a solid way to celebrate and promote racism.
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