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Old 06-18-16, 03:57 PM
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Will be hard to pick a team to root for between Austria/Iceland, want both to advance

Keep in mind Iceland is a country of 300k people and is second in their group. Awesome
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Old 06-18-16, 05:47 PM
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Will be hard to pick a team to root for between Austria/Iceland, want both to advance

Keep in mind Iceland is a country of 300k people and is second in their group. Awesome
Alaba is a world class talent who is fun to watch but I'll be cheering for the underdogs, Iceland.
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Old 06-18-16, 06:36 PM
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Looks like the US will be playing Argentina in the semi-final.
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Old 06-18-16, 06:52 PM
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Sejas might as well defect to the US after that penalty attempt.
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Old 06-18-16, 07:13 PM
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Solid thinking by putting two of the quarterfinals games on FX and not FS1/Fox

Had no idea what channel this was on
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Old 06-18-16, 07:15 PM
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Sejas might as well defect to the US after that penalty attempt.
Well, Venezuela is a total disaster right now so the whole team might defect
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Old 06-18-16, 07:31 PM
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Old 06-18-16, 10:16 PM
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Mexico getting ripped apart. Beautiful
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Old 06-18-16, 10:25 PM
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5-0 Chile, one of the worst games in Mexican history.
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Old 06-18-16, 10:42 PM
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Old 06-18-16, 10:51 PM
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Man, either Mexico has completely sh#t the bed, or this is some major match fixing. Wow.
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Old 06-18-16, 10:52 PM
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The sixth goal was the most embarrassing thing ever

7-0, but still nothing like Germany/Brazil
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Old 06-19-16, 12:43 AM
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6th goal was Mexico having given up on the game. Pathetic.
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Old 06-22-16, 07:39 AM
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Not surprised the US got thrashed last night. Klinsmann put out a very uninspiring starting XI that had no chance of competing.

Here's my team for Russia 2018:

GK: William Yarbrough

DF: Fabian Johnson, John Brooks, Matt Miazga, Timothy Chandler

MF: Gyasi Zardes, Darlington Nagbe, Michael Bradley, DeAndre Yedlin

FW: Bobby Wood, Jozy Altidore
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Old 06-22-16, 08:12 AM
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Not surprised the US got thrashed last night. Klinsmann put out a very uninspiring starting XI that had no chance of competing.

Here's my team for Russia 2018:

GK: William Yarbrough

DF: Fabian Johnson, John Brooks, Matt Miazga, Timothy Chandler

MF: Gyasi Zardes, Darlington Nagbe, Michael Bradley, DeAndre Yedlin

FW: Bobby Wood, Jozy Altidore
Really? Timmy Chandler has proven time and time again he is not willing to put forth the effort and work rate needed out of the USA fullbacks, not to mention his one or two BAADDD mental errors a game. The talent is there, but, between his ears he doesn't have it.

Geoff Cameron and John Brooks proved in every game besides Argentina that they may be the best pairing of CBs the USA has had in many many years. Don't let one game against the best attacking team in the world change that. I'm sure Jurgen agrees with me on that.

GK is an interesting debate. Guzan is uninspiring a lot of times, and is getting up in age even for a GK. I certainly would doubt Jurgen opts for a keeper with little to no experience in competition of that level though...
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Old 06-22-16, 08:58 AM
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Not surprised the US got thrashed last night. Klinsmann put out a very uninspiring starting XI that had no chance of competing.

Here's my team for Russia 2018:

GK: William Yarbrough

DF: Fabian Johnson, John Brooks, Matt Miazga, Timothy Chandler

MF: Gyasi Zardes, Darlington Nagbe, Michael Bradley, DeAndre Yedlin

FW: Bobby Wood, Jozy Altidore
Bradley is the guy that I think that is hurting this team more than anybody else at this time. I understand he plays probably the most demanding position, central midfield play maker, but someone has to play it; maybe it is time to give someone else a shot. Here is a great column that talks about his struggles>

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2016/...ica-centenario
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Old 06-22-16, 09:14 AM
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Not surprised the US got thrashed last night. Klinsmann put out a very uninspiring starting XI that had no chance of competing.

Here's my team for Russia 2018:

GK: William Yarbrough

DF: Fabian Johnson, John Brooks, Matt Miazga, Timothy Chandler

MF: Gyasi Zardes, Darlington Nagbe, Michael Bradley, DeAndre Yedlin

FW: Bobby Wood, Jozy Altidore
Several mistakes in this in my mind both with some names you included, spots you put them in and likely formation.

GK: Guzan, Howard, Horvath/Hamid
DF: Yedlin, Cameron, Brooks, Fabian Johnson(D/M) Besler, Orozco, Chandler, Miazga,
MF: Bradley, Jones, Bedoya, Pulisic, Nagbe, Hyndman
F: Zardes(F/M), Wood, Dempsey Morris, Altidore, Zelalem(F/M)

Both Jones and Dempsey still have plenty in the tank and I think that is even more clear after this tourney. Obviously that could change between now and then, but until they show a dropoff in form/ability I think they get the nod. Bedoya is still a very solid option in the midfield and while he doesnt have as much talent, he has the experience which will be needed. Cameron and Brooks have shown to be a very good pairing. Found it odd you have Fabian and Yedlin backwards based on were they play for their clubs. I like Altidore, but I doubt he ever becomes a full time starter again. Still has time though.

Another lineup I would like to see would move Fabian Johnson to midfield, but they need to find another fullback who wouldn't need as much help as Besler did. This would give a lineup along the lines of:

Guzan
Yedlin, Cameron, Brooks, Besler/Miazga
Johnson, Bradley, Nagbe
Zardes, Wood, Dempsey


I think we'll see a starting XI of experienced players with the talented young guns on the bench to come on as subs/change of pace players
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Old 06-22-16, 09:35 AM
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What happened with Morris, Pulisic, Trapp, Zelalem, Johannsson and Green? Especially Green and Zelalem, I remember these guys being deemed the future, and possible ascension, of the USMNT.
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Old 06-22-16, 09:50 AM
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Julian Green has barely played in the Bundesliga in the last two years. I doubt he'll ever amount to anything. Needs to leave Bayern for a smaller club where he'll get playing time, because he probably belongs in the 2nd or 3rd tier and not on the best club in the world.
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Old 06-22-16, 10:07 AM
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By the way, is there any other player than Messi that you would want to take a free kick? Dude can place the ball in a 1' X 1' box from 30 yards out if needed.
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Old 06-22-16, 10:42 AM
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What happened with Morris, Pulisic, Trapp, Zelalem, Johannsson and Green? Especially Green and Zelalem, I remember these guys being deemed the future, and possible ascension, of the USMNT.
Pulisic was on this roster. Morris should have been over Wondolowski. Zelalem was still working on gaining some sort of document in order to play. Idk if he has it yet. Green has had a couple injuries and can't find playing time as was mentioned above. A move to a smaller club would be good for him to get consistent time. Still very young and plenty of time to improve. I don't think Johannsson will ever do much. Hes too inconsistent. Haven't heard as much about Trapp because I mainly follow the US National team and he hasn't gotten much if any time with them.
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By the way, is there any other player than Messi that you would want to take a free kick? Dude can place the ball in a 1' X 1' box from 30 yards out if needed.
Ronaldo maybe? Messi is unreal
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Old 06-22-16, 10:51 AM
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Ronaldo maybe? Messi is unreal
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Old 06-22-16, 11:31 AM
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Pulisic was on this roster. Morris should have been over Wondolowski. Zelalem was still working on gaining some sort of document in order to play. Idk if he has it yet. Green has had a couple injuries and can't find playing time as was mentioned above. A move to a smaller club would be good for him to get consistent time. Still very young and plenty of time to improve. I don't think Johannsson will ever do much. Hes too inconsistent. Haven't heard as much about Trapp because I mainly follow the US National team and he hasn't gotten much if any time with them.
Yeah, I know Pulisic is on the roster. I can read, thanks. The question is why isn't he getting much playing time? Again, a lot of the guys I mentioned were supposed to be saviors of USMNT deemed by the media and "experts."
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Old 06-22-16, 01:27 PM
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Old 06-22-16, 01:37 PM
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By the way, is there any other player than Messi that you would want to take a free kick? Dude can place the ball in a 1' X 1' box from 30 yards out if needed.
Is a wicked free kick but Guzan played it bad as well. Ive never been a Guzan fan .Howard was a much better keeper in big games like this . And its time for Klinsman to back up his words. He said we would go another level of success and quality soccer ..I do not see it ... not in the defeat but in how we look ... we cant possess against quality teams and sometimes we get lucky and win but last night shows how far away we are ...Argentina ..Germany are great ,no doubt ,but we should never lose...to anybody on home soil that bad and that dominated
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Old 06-22-16, 01:57 PM
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The loss was brutal, but highlighted one of the key points Jurgen has been harping on since he started. The USA players need to be overseas, getting experience with Champions League teams in order to take the next step. Look at the players Argentina are trotting out there. Almost all of there players are from Elite Clubs in the World. Barcelona, Man U, Man City, PSG. Outside of Bradley, Brooks, Cameron, and Fab Johnson, no one on the field for the USA plays anywhere near the daily competition the Argentine players do.

I agree with Jurgen on that, and it is difficult when players like Bradley, Altidore, Dempsey, and Jordan Morris to name a few decide to stay home and play in the MLS when they could be starters on solid clubs overseas.

Looking forward, the young USA talents on high level clubs is getting much better, Brooks, Miazga, Green, Yedlin, Zelalem, Hyndman could lead the USA further than we have ever gone. I, for one, am optimistic
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Old 06-22-16, 02:20 PM
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Not having Wood hurt but even if everyone out there played their A-game, they would have struggled to compete. Argentina is the best in the world right now.

Jurgen's also been calling to massive reforms at the youth levels as well, and I completely agree with him. Youth soccer here is terrible.
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Old 06-22-16, 02:46 PM
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Jurgen's also been calling to massive reforms at the youth levels as well, and I completely agree with him. Youth soccer here is terrible.
+1

The US technical skills are for spit because the lower levels are too much about winning a trophy for coach dad's ego and not player development.
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Not having Wood hurt but even if everyone out there played their A-game, they would have struggled to compete. Argentina is the best in the world right now.

Jurgen's also been calling to massive reforms at the youth levels as well, and I completely agree with him. Youth soccer here is terrible.
And he's gotten so much resistance on it.
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