State Champs (1923-2017) Mr Basketball (1988-2017)

[TroyTrojan05]

As for sato, I only speculate but I've heard the same. He was a great player nonetheless. Kind of like Alex Carmona(aka alejandro sanchez)from Troy back in early 2000s. Was like 21 or 22 years old and dominated like someone should who is a grown man.

[Johnstown Benny]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

I am sure there could have been a number reasons, but who leaves Stanford at that point for freakin' Northern Florida? Doesn't education count for anything?

I agree that it does seem strange that Bobby Patton would leave Stanford and transfer to North Florida after 2 years because of the quality of education he would have received from Stanford vs North Florida and the value of a degree from Stanford would carry and this is where the story gets really confusing.

I did some research on Bobby Patton Jr and found where he did play basketball at Stanford for his first 2 years in college and then verified that he did, indeed transfer to North Florida and played there for the seasons of 1993 thru 1995. In the North Florida media guide I found where he was the team's leading scorer for the 94/95 season with 356 points and also led the team in assists with 129 that season. He also ranks 4th in career assists w/ 232, 4th in 3 pt fg percentage w/ 39% and 5th in career treys made w/124.

What is odd to me is the fact his coaching resume listed in a couple of newspaper articles shows him graduating from Stanford in 1995 with a degree in Political Science and later a masters from Kent State. I wonder how he played hoops at North Florida during the '95 season and then somehow still graduated from Stanford in '95 ?????? In the newspaper articles I looked at none have any mention of him ever playing basketball at North Florida ???? Yet he is listed in the North Florida media guide as having played there 2 years and also shows his HS as Youngstown Liberty so there is no question it's the same person. Maybe someone closer to NE Ohio hoops can shed some light on the
1995 confusion with graduating from Stanford while playing for North Florida.

Apparently he has coached hs basketball for several years in NE Ohio at Westlake, Kenston, and Solon and prior to that was an Ast coach at Dublin Coffman. Interesting, not to mention confusing.

JB

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by Johnstown Benny

I agree that it does seem strange that Bobby Patton would leave Stanford and transfer to North Florida after 2 years because of the quality of education he would have received from Stanford vs North Florida and the value of a degree from Stanford would carry and this is where the story gets really confusing.

I did some research on Bobby Patton Jr and found where he did play basketball at Stanford for his first 2 years in college and then verified that he did, indeed transfer to North Florida and played there for the seasons of 1993 thru 1995. In the North Florida media guide I found where he was the team's leading scorer for the 94/95 season with 356 points and also led the team in assists with 129 that season. He also ranks 4th in career assists w/ 232, 4th in 3 pt fg percentage w/ 39% and 5th in career treys made w/124.

What is odd to me is the fact his coaching resume listed in a couple of newspaper articles shows him graduating from Stanford in 1995 with a degree in Political Science and later a masters from Kent State. I wonder how he played hoops at North Florida during the '95 season and then somehow still graduated from Stanford in '95 ?????? In the newspaper articles I looked at none have any mention of him ever playing basketball at North Florida ???? Yet he is listed in the North Florida media guide as having played there 2 years and also shows his HS as Youngstown Liberty so there is no question it's the same person. Maybe someone closer to NE Ohio hoops can shed some light on the
1995 confusion with graduating from Stanford while playing for North Florida.

Apparently he has coached hs basketball for several years in NE Ohio at Westlake, Kenston, and Solon and prior to that was an Ast coach at Dublin Coffman. Interesting, not to mention confusing.

JB

Makes me wonder if his resume was falsified. I don't know, it just seems odd.

[ohiopup]

Most Appearances in Final-4 OHSAA Boys Basketball Tournament
(mininum of 6) - 31 schools listed

RK = Rank
F4 = Total Final-4 Appearances
TCG = championship games - Titles - Runner-ups
FRST-LAST = First and Last years apprearing in Final-4
P/V = Public or priVate
## = School closed

RK F4 TCG    FRST-LAST  P/V   SCHOOL
01 23 11-3-8 1928-2006  P Can.McKinley
02 12 08-6-2 1949-2013  V Ak.SVSM
02 12 09-5-4 1979-2013  V Clv.St.Joseph (VASJ)
02 12 09-7-2 1944-1983  P Middletown
05 11 08-4-4 1927-2012  P Portsmouth
06 10 07-3-4 1949-2002  V Delphos St.John
06 10 06-3-3 1956-1972  P Clv.East Tech
08 09 04-3-1 1975-2013  V Kettering Alter
08 09 04-3-1 1962-2012  P Berlin Hiland
08 09 06-5-1 1924-2001  P Col.East
11 08 07-5-2 1971-2012  P Day.Dunbar
11 08 05-3-2 1967-2005  P Col.Linden-McKinley
11 08 04-2-2 1968-1990  V Mansfield St.Peter
11 08 01-1-0 1959-1990  P Tol.Scott
11 08 05-2-3 1971-1986  P Ak.Central-Hower ##
16 07 04-3-1 1977-2013  P Ottawa-Glandorf
16 07 01-1-0 1991-2012  V Bedford Chanel ##
16 07 02-1-1 1996-2012  V Lakewood St.Edward
16 07 04-2-2 1927-2004  P Dover
16 07 05-4-1 1984-1991  V Col.Wehrle ##
21 06 05-3-2 1977-2010  P Day.Jefferson Twp.
21 06 03-1-2 1989-2010  V Lima Cent.Cath.
21 06 05-4-1 1926-2010  P Zanesville
21 06 03-0-3 1993-2009  V Tol.St.John
21 06 05-4-1 1936-2008  P Newark
21 06 02-0-2 1982-2007  P Wheelersburg
21 06 02-0-2 1924-2006  P Archbold
21 06 04-3-1 1966-2004  V Day.Chaminade-Julienne
21 06 03-1-2 1975-2003  P Clv.Heights
21 06 00-0-0 1974-1995  V Cin.McNicholas
21 06 04-2-2 1972-1994  P Gnadenhutten Indian Valley South (merged w/IVN into Indian Valley)

Ak.SVSM (does not include 1 Ak.St.Mary before merger)
Ak.Central-Hower (does not include 2 Ak.Central before merger)
Gnadenhutten IVS (does not include 1 Gnad.IV since merger with IVN)

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Up on 2 wheels: 1982 Honda CM250C (Custom-Runabout)

[Maple_City_Fan]

Originally Posted by ohiopup

.

That Lorain (aka Lorain Sr.) won the first OHSAA big school
(Class A) tournament and never made it back to the Final-4 since.

Technically, it wasn't aka Lorain Sr. as it wasn't called Lorain Senior until Admiral King was built in the early 60s. So, simply Lorain, like today, is/was the correct name.

As hinted, Lorain had a solid history until the other 2 schools, Admiral King and Southview, came along. Admiral King had outstanding teams for many years, and nearly took out powerhouse Hower in the early 80s.

[ohiopup]

Originally Posted by ross football fan

Technically, it wasn't aka Lorain Sr. as it wasn't called Lorain Senior until Admiral King was built in the early 60s. So, simply Lorain, like today, is/was the correct name.

As hinted, Lorain had a solid history until the other 2 schools, Admiral King and Southview, came along. Admiral King had outstanding teams for many years, and nearly took out powerhouse Hower in the early 80s.

Technically it's Ak.Central-Hower since the 2 schools; Ak.Central (a general
classification H.S.) and Ak.Hower (a vocational H.S.) merged in 1970.
Ak.Central had a couple of decent teams in the 50's-60's while Hower
was never a threat. Once the merger took place Ak.C-H was a beast
(see post #28).

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Up on 2 wheels: 1982 Honda CM250C (Custom-Runabout)

[Maple_City_Fan]

Very good. Knowledge is power.

I failed to mention it was the same with Mansfield as well. It was simply Mansfield until Malabar was built, as the same time as Lorain's Admiral King. Coincidently, AK and Mansfield Senior joined the old Buckeye Conference for the 62-63 school year.

[ohiopup]

Refer to post #28 / this thread...

Clv.East Tech ... Now 11 times in Final-4
Lakewood St.Ed ... Now 8 times in Final-4
Ak.SVSM ... Now 13 times in Final-4
Clv.VASJ ... Now 13 times in Final-4

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Up on 2 wheels: 1976 Huffy tandem

[Yappi]

Did the Coaches Association select a Mr Basketball yet? Their website appears to be down and I haven't found any announcement.

[ohiopup]

Originally Posted by Yappi

Did the Coaches Association select a Mr Basketball yet? Their website appears to be down and I haven't found any announcement.

Usually announced in April - closer to the All-Star game.

Last year the rosters for the game was put out around 04/11
with the game played 04/21.

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Up on 2 wheels: 1976 Huffy tandem

[Middie 85 Alum]

Originally Posted by ohiopup

The following is a list of 'The Players of the Year'
from 1952 ~ 1987 compiled from the AP/UP/INS/UPI etc...

From 1923-1971 there were only 2 Classes... Large school and Small school
(A,B from '23~'56 / AA,A '57~'70)
3 Classes AAA,AA,A from 1971~87
4 Divisions from 1988 to date (D-I,D-II,D-III,D-IV).

No mention of POY or MVP or Team Capt. prior to 1952.

* not confirmed (listed 1st in the All-Ohio team which by practice was the spot the POY was placed)

1952	Robin Freeman	Cin.Hughes
1953	Bob Ashley	Middleport
1953	Eddie Jordan	Sebring
1953	Leroy Thompson	Waynesburg
1953	Cliff Hager (Hafer ?)	Middletown (spelling?)
1954	Dick Bogenrife	Sedalia Midway
1954	Owen Lawson	Middletown
1955	Frank Wade	Col.East
1955	Jim Thomas	Gallipolis
1955	Rex Leach	Vienna
1956	Gary Kesler	Willshire
1956	Jerry Lucas	Middletown
1957	Jerry Lucas	Middletown
1958	Ed Bode		Bethel Twp.
1958	Jerry Lucas	Middletown
1958	Lawrence Auger	Savannah
1960	Al Thrasher	Salem Local (Champaign)
1961	Dan Neff	Ayersville
1961	Gail Evans	Urbana
1961	Mike Haley	Portsmouth
1962	Dan Neff	Ayersville
1962	Henry Burlong	Day.Roosevelt
1963	Jim Gardner	War.Harding
1963	Mike Hyde	Wakeman Western Res.
1963	Rob Ben Wiley	Powhatan
1964	Bill Hosket	Day.Belmont
1964	Larry Jordan	Richmond Dale S.Eastern (Ross)
1965	Jeff Miller	Lima Shawnee
1965	Jerry Turner	Albany
1966	Dave Sorenson	Findlay
1966	Kerry Myers	Celina ICHS
1967	Jim Harris	           * Lorain Adm.King
1967	John Studer        * Strasburg
1968	John Fraley	Middletown
1969	Dan Thallman	Bloomville
1969	Ed Ratleff	Col.East
1969	Nick Weatherspoon	Can.McKinley
1970	Dan Gerhard	Day.Chaminade
1970	Jeff Reisinger	Zane Trace (Ross)
1970	Wardell Jackson	Tol.Macomber
1971	Dan Weston	Morral Ridgedale
1971	Ed Stahl	Col.Walnut Ridge
1971	Joe Fisher	Lima Cath.
1972	Bob Huggins	Gnad.Indian Valley So.
1972	Dave Smith	Uhrichsville Claymont
1972	Greg Taylor	Springfield No.
1972	Ken Brooks	Findlay
1973	Archie Aldridge	Middletown
1973	Brian Williams	Col.South
1973	Dan Hagen	Columbia
1973	Mike Buurma	Willard
1973	Mike Phillips	Manchester
1973	Phil Saunders	Cuyahoga Hgts.
1974	Larry Harris	Lorain Clearview
1974	Mark Bayless	Chillicothe
1974	Mike Phillips	Manchester
1974	Randy Ayers	Springfield No.
1975	Frank Sanders	Day.Stivers
1975	Greg Cobb	Olmsted Falls
1975	Larry Fortner	Lorain Clearview
1975	Phil Hubbard	Can.McKinley
1975	Steve Lemming	Mans.St.Peter
1976	Butch Carter	Middletown
1976	Greg Johnson	Lockland
1976	Jeff Lambert	Swanton
1976	Jim Arnzen	Delphos St,John
1977	Dave Olinger	W.Lafayette Ridgewood
1977	Dave Smith	Old Fort
1977	Herb Williams	Col.Marion-Franklin
1977	Joe Faine	Cory Rawson
1977	Marquis Miller	Col.St.Charles
1978	Brad Weston	Morral Ridgedale
1978	Dave Zeigler	Coshocton
1978	Dwight Anderson	Day.Roth
1978	John Denen	Washington C.H.
1979	Clark Kellogg	Clv.St.Joseph
1979	Joe James	Ytn.Rayen
1979	Larry Huggins	Indian Valley So.
1980	Bill Szabo	Oberlin Firelands
1980	Bobby Harris	Col.South
1980	Dexter Bailey	Cin.Country Day
1980	Jimmy Gooden	Ak.Central-Hower
1980	Tim Reiser	Napoleon
1981	Dave Jones	Jewett-Scio
1981	Greg Stokes	Hamilton
1981	Joe Concheck	Canal Fulton Norhtwest
1982	Alan Kortokrax	Delphos St.John
1982	Bruce Timko	War.Kennedy
1982	Mike Giomi	Newark
1982	Mike Lillo	Willard
1983	Curtis Wilson	Ak.St.Vincent-St.Mary
1983	Kannard Johnson	Cin.Taft
1983	Mike Smith	Old Washington Buckeye Trail
1984	Bob Mroczkowski	Bridgeport
1984	Gary Grant	Can.McKinley
1984	Jay Burson	New Concord John Glenn
1984	Tom Wilson	Wellsville
1985	Jay Burson	New Concord John Glenn
1985	Jerome Lane	Ak.SVSM
1985	Jerry Francis	Col.Wehrle
1985	Rick Calloway	Cin.Withrow
1986	Chad Keller	Van Buren
1986	Maurice Gray	Gates Mills Hawkin
1986	Melvin Newbern	Tol.Scott
1986	Nolan Robinson	Willard
1987	Eli Bewster	Col.Wehrle
1987	Tim Shepherd	Oberlin
1987	Treg Lee	Clv.St.Joseph

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San Bernardino...

OHIO Pup the spelling for the 1953 name is Cliff Hafer. The Middies won the state Title that year too.

[Bo Kimble]

Originally Posted by Henry37

LeBron as a freshman was a good player but was very much growing into his arms and legs and was dominant only in stretches. It was the next year that he grew and the hype machine took off.

A coaches association Mr. Basketball...never knew it existed or was acknowledged.

Are you crazy? He was the best player on that team, too. He averaged 18 I think and every time there was a play to be made he made it, period. That was the last time media types would deny big honors based on grade, giving many honors to teammate & LRMR business partner Maverick Carter, who was a great HS player in his own right but LeBron dazzled in 9th grade.

[Bo Kimble]

Originally Posted by Johnstown Benny

I agree that it does seem strange that Bobby Patton would leave Stanford and transfer to North Florida after 2 years because of the quality of education he would have received from Stanford vs North Florida and the value of a degree from Stanford would carry and this is where the story gets really confusing.

I did some research on Bobby Patton Jr and found where he did play basketball at Stanford for his first 2 years in college and then verified that he did, indeed transfer to North Florida and played there for the seasons of 1993 thru 1995. In the North Florida media guide I found where he was the team's leading scorer for the 94/95 season with 356 points and also led the team in assists with 129 that season. He also ranks 4th in career assists w/ 232, 4th in 3 pt fg percentage w/ 39% and 5th in career treys made w/124.

What is odd to me is the fact his coaching resume listed in a couple of newspaper articles shows him graduating from Stanford in 1995 with a degree in Political Science and later a masters from Kent State. I wonder how he played hoops at North Florida during the '95 season and then somehow still graduated from Stanford in '95 ?????? In the newspaper articles I looked at none have any mention of him ever playing basketball at North Florida ???? Yet he is listed in the North Florida media guide as having played there 2 years and also shows his HS as Youngstown Liberty so there is no question it's the same person. Maybe someone closer to NE Ohio hoops can shed some light on the
1995 confusion with graduating from Stanford while playing for North Florida.

Apparently he has coached hs basketball for several years in NE Ohio at Westlake, Kenston, and Solon and prior to that was an Ast coach at Dublin Coffman. Interesting, not to mention confusing.

JB

Bobby Patton had a "hands on" approach during his days as basketball coach @ Pleasant.

[NDXUFan]

Originally Posted by DrunkUncle

How about that run by Cin. NCH with 3 straight titles?? No one could stop Mayo and Walker.

ND:

'02 Bacon had 9 players that went on to play college hoops and beat LeBron. '02 Bacon would have ran them out of the gym, you are not playing St. Bernard or Lockland.

2002 D2 - St. Bernard Roger Bacon 71, Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary 63

[NDXUFan]

Originally Posted by Cantrell

Mayo and Walker lost to Reading there 1st year. won the next 2 and left. NCH lost 3 games in 3 years Reading, St. X and Oak Hill acad. When Mayo, Walker and Ellis played together they never lost a game.

ND:

St. X and Oak Hill are real teams. NCH would not have beaten this team that send 9 players to play college hoops.

[Yappi]

The Mr Basketball and OHSAA State Champs threads have been merged to keep them both in the same place permanently.

[Scipio]

1976 Barberton Magics

That is all I have to say about that.

[D4fan]

Originally Posted by Carl Rick

Lebron had a very good freshman yr. in HS. Sato was dominant as a Sr. Think he may have been 21 yrs old.
Ohio is a great basketball state. Lima has produced many dominant guards and each area has great players from past. In the big school division SW Ohio is the best. The cities of Dayton and Cincinnati have multiple tough leagues. No offense to Cleveland because they are also top notch with mix of public private schools that play great HS basketball. Columbus also is right there with many top teams.

I know Sato's birth certificate, or better said the lack of one, has been the subject of much controversy. I made a special trip one winter evening to Kettering Middle School to watch this Dayton Christian recruit from Africa (yes they scouted overseas in those days, though they eventually were sanctioned for it). I sat in the first row mid court and was astonished at Sato's physical strength relative to the other "boys". If I was forced to pick between 18 or 21 I would have picked 21. Now many years latter, I hope I was wrong and he was just a really developed man among boys. He was very fun to watch.

[trojandave]

Looking at the updated lists of the OHSAA, Portsmouth is 2nd all-time in state appearances with 15, and 8th all-time in total wins with 1,381. The Trojans have also made the state tournament in 8 decades, topped only by Canton McKinley's 10 decades. Portsmouth has an overall record of 14-11 in the state tournament, 12-7 in Final 4 games. The Trojans have an 8-1 record in state semifinal games since 1931(state champions in Class AA), and are 7-1 in regional final games since 1961(state champions in Class AA). PHS has a 4-4 record in state championship games, and have won the state title in D2(1988--first year of D2), Class AA(1978--PHS's first year in AA), Class AA(big school--1931, 1961).

As of this post, Portsmouth has a record of 9-4(1,390 total), and needs 10 more wins this year to reach 1,400. It will be tough to do, but it could happen if they can make regionals.

[UnTouchableVoL33]

Originally Posted by DrunkUncle

How about that run by Cin. NCH with 3 straight titles?? No one could stop Mayo and Walker.

Defending state champions the Reading Blue Devils did on Saturday, March 6, 2004 in Sectional final at Cintas. It was NCH only loss of the year. Final score was 58-47 The Blue Devils (17-6), unbeaten NCH (21-1)

http://www2.cincinnati.com/preps/2004/03/06/prep1a.html

[Force Ten]

McKinley is 3-8 in State Championship games? Really?

[ohiopup]

Originally Posted by Force Ten

McKinley is 3-8 in State Championship games? Really?

Yes ~ Really!

it's about the only stat that off the mark in; the pyramid of the
OHSAA tournament....

since 1923 (the 1st OHSAA tournament)
McK ...
92 tournaments...
47 Sweet-16 ~ (1st 1924 - last 2012)
23 Final-4s ~ (1st 1928 ~ last 2006)
11 Title-games ~ (1st 1928 ~ last 2006)
3 Titles ~ (1st 1984 ~ last 2006)

Each of the figures is apx 50% of the previous except the 3 titles

Not counting the title games that McK was in the Bulldogs
were defeated in tournament play by the eventual State
Champion 12 times.
1930 Day.Stivers (State semi-final)
1941 Martins Ferry (Regional final)
1954 Hamilton (State semi-final)
1961 Portsmouth (Regional final)
1963 Col.East (Regional final) ** (2OT)
1964 Day.Belmont (State semi-final)
1976 Barberton (Regional Semi-final)
1986 Ak.Central-Hower (Regional final)
1990 Tol.Scott (State semi-final) * (1OT)
1997 Clv.Heights (Regional Semi-final)
2004 Hamilton (State semi-final)
2012 Pickerington Central (Regional final)

Tidbits:
From 1954 thru 2000 McKinley had 47 consecutive winning seasons.

In 1937 McKinley and Massillon (Paul Brown as coach) played in the
state semi-finals (Massillon won; it's the Tigers only title game
appearance - they lost).

In 1940 McKinley and Massillon would meet in the State Semi-finals
(McKinley won) but play was stopped because of rough play and the
teams given warnings by the officials. Massillon would finish the
game with only on 4 players on the court.


P.S. All of this at/in the same class/division.
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[csg62]

1934 and 1935 five kids from a very small school beat everybody, even the big boys. Someone should make a movie out of it, like Hoosiers.

[OUcats82]

Originally Posted by Yappi

D1-D2-D3-D4 (1988-2014)

A Division
1970 A - Cincinnati Lincoln Heights 62, Sebring McKinley 60
1969 A - Arcanum 84, Bridgeport 59
1968 A - Mansfield St. Peter's 73, Petersburg Springfield 50
1967 A - Strasburg 54, Arcanum 47
1966 A - New Lebanon Dixie 75, Rossford 63
1965 A - West Salem Northwestern 55, Springboro 45
1964 A - Dresden Jefferson 71, Celina 61
1963 A - Dresden Jefferson 48, Jackson Center 46
1962 A - New Lebanon Dixie 74, Berlin Hiland 62
1961 A - Ayersville 40, Youngstown Liberty 38
1960 A - Salem Local 74, Frazeysburg 59
1959 A - Edgerton 57, Linwood Jacksontown 53
1958 A - West Salem Northwestern 60, Bucyrus Holmes Liberty 56
1957 A - Ayersville 74, Gratis 73, OT
1956 A - Arcanum 72, Columbus St. Marys 71
1955 A - Lockland Wayne 64, Wilshire 56
1954 A - New Lexington St. Aloysius 65, Delphos St. John's 63
1953 A - Mariemont 87, Philo 44
1952 A - Lockland Wayne 56, Nelsonville 46
1951 A - Grand Rapids 52, Waynesburg 51
1950 A - Miller City 44, Eaton 36
1949 A - Delphos St. John's 47, Lockland Wayne 43
1948 A - Eaton 45, Lima St. Rose 36
1947 A - Columbiana 43, New Knoxville 34
1946 A - Farmer 36, Worthington 32
1945 A - Dayton Northridge 51, Columbiana 42
1944 A - Akron Ellet 49, Lima St. Johns 39
1943 A - Yorkville 54, Tipp City 30
1942 A - Somerset 49, Bremen 42
1941 A - Glenford 48, Canfield 28
1940 A - New Carlisle 43, Canfield 26
1939 A - North Canton 24, Sandusky St. Marys 23
1938 A - Canal Fulton 42, Enon 21
1937 A - Upper Arlington 43, Lockland 25
1936 A - Sandusky St. Mary's 25, Leesburg 22
1935 A - Waterloo 25, Oxford Stewart 22
1934 A - Waterloo 40, Mark Center 26
1933 A - Springfield Lawrenceville 36, Henrietta 24
1932 A - Castalia Margaretta 26, Ostrander 24, OT
1931 A - Austintown-Fitch 26, Lancaster St. Marys 24, 2 OT
1930 A - Lancaster St. Marys 34, Rome 3
1929 A - Akron St. Mary 28, Bluffton 26
1928 A - Marshall 20, Manchester 17
1927 A - Kent State 20, Oberlin 16
1926 A - Oberlin 32, Miamisburg 13
1925 A - Bellpoint 42, Oberlin 24
1924 A - Bellpoint 24, Archbold 20
1923 A - Plattsburg 16, Bellpoint 15

Did anyone else notice that Kent State beat Oberlin 20-16 in 1927?

Was there a high school affiliated with the university at one time? Or did the university actually play in a high school tournament? I know back in the day it was not uncommon for colleges to play high schools, military schools, YMCA team etc. but I would think a state tournament would have been limited to the prep level.

[ohiopup]

Originally Posted by OUcats82

Did anyone else notice that Kent State beat Oberlin 20-16 in 1927?

Was there a high school affiliated with the university at one time? Or did the university actually play in a high school tournament? I know back in the day it was not uncommon for colleges to play high schools, military schools, YMCA team etc. but I would think a state tournament would have been limited to the prep level.

That is the College's (Kent State) own H.S.
The State Universities had their own in-house high schools back then.
I am fairly certain the enrollment was pretty much limited to the
children of the employees, from Professors to Janitors.


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[Yeoman]

Originally Posted by ohiopup

That is the College's (Kent State) own H.S.
The State Universities had their own in-house high schools back then.
I am fairly certain the enrollment was pretty much limited to the
children of the employees, from Professors to Janitors.


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Wikipedia has a nice entry on the school--it was still open in the early '70s and won a couple of state championships in track and cross country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_St...versity_School

The idea, originally, was to have a school where the education students could do their training. Eventually it became a research site for the education faculty and their students.

Enrollment wasn't limited to children of University employees but there must have been quite a few or they wouldn't have bothered to have a rule restricting the number. Quoting the article: "The school had a policy that classes could not exceed 50% of children of KSU faculty, staff, or students unless there were no names on the waiting list."

[OUcats82]

Originally Posted by Yeoman

Wikipedia has a nice entry on the school--it was still open in the early '70s and won a couple of state championships in track and cross country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_St...versity_School

The idea, originally, was to have a school where the education students could do their training. Eventually it became a research site for the education faculty and their students.

Enrollment wasn't limited to children of University employees but there must have been quite a few or they wouldn't have bothered to have a rule restricting the number. Quoting the article: "The school had a policy that classes could not exceed 50% of children of KSU faculty, staff, or students unless there were no names on the waiting list."

Very interesting stuff-thank you for sharing!

[Cantrell]

Originally Posted by NDXUFan

ND:

St. X and Oak Hill are real teams. NCH would not have beaten this team that send 9 players to play college hoops.

If I remember they didn't play a league schedule the 2nd and 3rd year. Played D1 and out of state teams alot. I remember going up to Fairfield and watching them crush a St. Johns team with Raymond and Hilerland? I don't know if there has ever been a team in Ohio that would have run NCH out of the gym. Like I stated Mayo, Walker and Ellis never lost a game.

[Yeoman]

Originally Posted by Cantrell

If I remember they didn't play a league schedule the 2nd and 3rd year. Played D1 and out of state teams alot.

They played a partial league schedule: seven games, one against each school in their conference except New Miami (which seems wise) and maybe Clark but I'm not sure if Clark was in the conference then. A full schedule would have been home-and-away in the division and a single game outside.

They were still doing this in 2009, long after everyone was gone and they'd stopped being a dominant force in the league. Maybe somebody over on the MVC board would know the story.

[D4fan]

Originally Posted by csg62

1934 and 1935 five kids from a very small school beat everybody, even the big boys. Someone should make a movie out of it, like Hoosiers.

You are aware there is a very well written book on this group called the Waterloo Wonders? They may have been one of the very original teams to travel and put on a show more so than merely play basketball. Pretty incredible dedication on the coaches part. He would load them into his own car and travel from school to school.