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Old 01-26-17, 04:14 PM
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Welling was a great coach, not just someone who rolls the balls out and won because he had more talent than you.

He went 550-127 .810 at Owens (with a ton of talent) playing an up and down high scoring style. When he went to Central he went 110-31 .780 playing a slower style that best fit who he had in the gym (good but not top talent). His teams were better than the individual parts.

Welling could make adjustments in season as well as in games. Plus, his teams/players got better as the season went on. You see a lot of teams come out strong, but fade as the season grinds on. Welling knew how to avoid that pitfall from 20+ years of JC coaching.

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Old 01-26-17, 05:31 PM
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If Welling is such a great coach, why isn't he actually coaching?
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Old 01-26-17, 06:43 PM
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If Welling is such a great coach, why isn't he actually coaching?


From what I heard he was just done with it. As a HC myself working a regular full time job is incredibly stressful in season and truly wears on you. Just no downtime at all
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Old 01-26-17, 08:14 PM
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Administration wasn't happy with him so they let him go. Boy I'm betting they are second guessing their decision now.
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Old 01-26-17, 08:17 PM
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Don't agree 100% with this, but I see how you could come to this comment. Welling had his best year in 2011 with 2 kids who were Central Catholic bound no matter any circumstance, Lehman and Marquette, a transfer from Whitmer and a few random role players and 3-4 football players. I never saw the best junior high players from NW Ohio beating the doors down to enroll because Welling was there,
What I meant by "more" was more than they have (as mentioned by IB), not more than other programs. I think you're correct, they'd probably not get the "best." But they would beat the best.
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Old 01-27-17, 12:42 AM
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Administration wasn't happy with him so they let him go. Boy I'm betting they are second guessing their decision now.
Let him go...? He still works in the building as Director of Admissions. Although, it's a big mystery why he isn't still the head coach.
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Old 01-27-17, 10:07 AM
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What I meant by "more" was more than they have (as mentioned by IB), not more than other programs. I think you're correct, they'd probably not get the "best." But they would beat the best.
Great point, agree.
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Old 01-27-17, 10:14 AM
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Great articles on SFS basketball and hockey teams. Hope they don't get the Blade jinx.
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Old 01-27-17, 11:21 AM
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Great articles on SFS basketball and hockey teams. Hope they don't get the Blade jinx.
They wont, tough to get jinxed off something no one reads.
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Old 01-27-17, 04:32 PM
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Old 01-27-17, 09:28 PM
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Lima Senior beats St. Francis 54-51 on a halfcourt buzzer beater by Jarius Ward. SJJ now in sole possession of first place in the TRAC.

Video- https://mobile.twitter.com/BCSNsport...73932185616385

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Old 01-27-17, 10:13 PM
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Ward finished with 31 points and 12 rebounds.
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Old 01-28-17, 06:26 AM
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Tough lost for Knights. Down the whole game, fought back to tie it with 5 seconds. Ward for Lima hit a tough shot at buzzer to win it. Tip hat off to Lima.
Doesn't get any easier for the Knights. @Whitmer Tuesday.
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Old 01-30-17, 09:52 AM
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Some important games in Trac tomorrow.
St. Francis @ Whitmer
Lima Sr. @ SJJ
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Old 01-30-17, 12:19 PM
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Games could go a long way in determining the seeds for NW D1 bracket.
Early seeding: 1. St Johns 2 St Francis 3 ?? Lima, Ashland or Whitmer
Definite bottom feeders
17. Clay 16 Springfield 15 Mans Sr 14 Ross.
Middle is a toss up!
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Old 01-30-17, 04:55 PM
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Games could go a long way in determining the seeds for NW D1 bracket.
Early seeding: 1. St Johns 2 St Francis 3 ?? Lima, Ashland or Whitmer
Definite bottom feeders
17. Clay 16 Springfield 15 Mans Sr 14 Ross.
Middle is a toss up!
Don't see Ashland in the Top 4. Whitmer is the only win that could be considered good....and a 17 point loss to a D4. Also, remember, coaches vote and Ashland is kind of the "outsider" among teams in the District....don't see them getting votes over the "local" teams.
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Old 01-30-17, 10:06 PM
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Don't see Ashland in the Top 4. Whitmer is the only win that could be considered good....and a 17 point loss to a D4. Also, remember, coaches vote and Ashland is kind of the "outsider" among teams in the District....don't see them getting votes over the "local" teams.
I agree with that the leagues will stick together. BTW, St. Peter's is not a typical D4 school. 4 players with D1 talent.

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Old 01-31-17, 08:02 AM
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Great game tonight in the Titan Dome on hand, will try to make it out there before work


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Old 01-31-17, 09:13 AM
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Also a great game at Whitmer against SFS. Winner stays alive for title hopes.
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Old 01-31-17, 09:17 PM
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SFS beats Whitmer 63-60. Burnham with a 3 at the buzzer.

SJJ beat Lima Senior 64-48. SJJ was 5/19 from three so this big of a win is impressive. Vincent Williams had 16 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists. 3 blocks and 2 steals.
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Old 02-02-17, 12:49 PM
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Big game coming up for SJJ vs. Whitmer. SJJ should win but Whitmer has been playing well lately despite buzzer beater vs. SFS.
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Old 02-02-17, 01:46 PM
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Vincent Williams had 16 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists. 3 blocks and 2 steals.
That's some very detailed stats from a fan less than 10 minutes after the game was over.
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Old 02-02-17, 03:54 PM
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That's some very detailed stats from a fan less than 10 minutes after the game was over.


sjj radio always posts the stats right after the game on twitter

can always listen to the games here
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Old 02-02-17, 07:31 PM
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That's some very detailed stats from a fan less than 10 minutes after the game was over.
Why the need to come in the basketball forum and b*tch about SJJ at every opportunity? We don't do the same thing on the football forum? Just accept your basketball program is good for a 3 year stretch every 20 years and wait to post til August.
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Old 02-02-17, 07:35 PM
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Why the need to come in the basketball forum and b*tch about SJJ at every opportunity?
Well... he would be considered a "rival" so I think it's expected. It was hardly a cheap shot at a player or anything.

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We don't do the same thing on the football forum?
uh.....

A. Yes
B. No
C. lol A
D. B and C.
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Old 02-02-17, 10:56 PM
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Why the need to come in the basketball forum and b*tch about SJJ at every opportunity? We don't do the same thing on the football forum? Just accept your basketball program is good for a 3 year stretch every 20 years and wait to post til August.
Our basketball success in the past decade is very comparable to St. John's success. Who has the most recent state final four appearance??

And actually, since football is a much more popular sport than basketball, there's usually conversations going on year round, so he actually doesn't have to wait until August to post.
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Old 02-03-17, 07:15 AM
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That's some very detailed stats from a fan less than 10 minutes after the game was over.
Great observation. I'll continue the multiple choice game...

A). He was at home laying on the couch in a dress, wearing lipstick with a bolt action rifle at his side, listening to the game online.

B). He has a great voice and sits right next to the stat guy.

C). Wait a minute, no one listens to SJ basketball online. Especially for a mid-season mediocre game.

D). B & C
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Old 02-03-17, 09:27 AM
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Our basketball success in the past decade is very comparable to St. John's success.
SJJ has a 70-9 record since joining the TRAC. Central is 52-27. SJJ has 3 league titles (with a 4th to be added soon). Central has 2 and is in the basement of the conference with no future.
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Old 02-03-17, 11:05 AM
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SJJ has a 70-9 record since joining the TRAC.
That's it? With how many trips to Cbus? I would of thought with all the recruiting violations and that stellar 20/20 program things would be much better....
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Old 02-03-17, 12:50 PM
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That's it? With how many trips to Cbus? I would of thought with all the recruiting violations and that stellar 20/20 program things would be much better....
They have a pretty good shot to get down to Columbus in a few weeks and next year. You have had one trip to Columbus in the last 50 years, correct?
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