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Old 01-07-18, 10:22 PM
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West Carrollton

I know most people consider West Carrollton sports to be irrelevant, but can anybody shed light on WC basketball? The current coach is in his 4th year and has won a total of 7 games. 5 of them were from his first season and they are now on a 47 game losing streak. Iím trying to look at player stats but the coach hasnít entered any stats since the second game of the season. I know they fired the football coach after three dismal seasons, Iíd have to guess that this coach is on the hot seat. Is the coach bad? Are the players bad? What is going on?
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Old 01-09-18, 01:14 PM
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There is no talent in WC...
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Old 01-09-18, 01:22 PM
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There is some talent as in decent. The problem is there's no talent administratively to manifest the culture that's at the school.......
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Old 01-09-18, 03:11 PM
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Any legit talent they get (apparently in every single sport) transfers.
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Old 01-12-18, 11:13 AM
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I'm usually at every game and sometimes unfortunately, but the coach really needs to go! The games always look like we rolled up to the corner and asked who wants to play tonight. It's street ball at it's worst. There are some talented kids, especially at the JV level but they need coached and discipline. The kids are getting coached from the stands and listening.The bench area always has extra kids hanging out, supposedly they are doing stats (yet to see this happening). The AD is way over their head in this job too!
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Old 01-12-18, 11:25 AM
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Team just isnít vey good. You can have all the coaching in the world but at some point you need talent
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Old 01-23-18, 03:41 PM
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Big difference between having no talent and "no talent" being developed. I think we all know where the current coach falls into this category. It's not like WC has ever been flooded with phenomenal basketball players but previous coaching staffs worked very hard to maximize the ability that was there and saw some success from that. Typically poor seasons were followed by improvement. Now it's poor season followed by poor season with no end in sight (that's a program and culture problem - coaches responsibility). While basketball has never been a dominant powerhouse in West Carrollton, under previous staff's it was at least organized and respected by the community. It's a shame to see how where the program is now.
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Old 01-23-18, 05:36 PM
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Big difference between having no talent and "no talent" being developed. I think we all know where the current coach falls into this category. It's not like WC has ever been flooded with phenomenal basketball players but previous coaching staffs worked very hard to maximize the ability that was there and saw some success from that. Typically poor seasons were followed by improvement. Now it's poor season followed by poor season with no end in sight (that's a program and culture problem - coaches responsibility). While basketball has never been a dominant powerhouse in West Carrollton, under previous staff's it was at least organized and respected by the community. It's a shame to see how where the program is now.
How can it be on the coach when no sport at the school is successful? Changing the coach won't help if the athletic andschool culture doesn't change. They have freshmen open enrollment they have regular housing,subsidized housing, it's right next to Dayton, a diverse population, great facilities,a feeder, right next to 75,centrally,located and the Metro bus let's off right in front of the school. It's a great destination and I know several coaches that would love to coach there but there's no support from staff administration or community. Coaches don't have the freedom to grow there program the way they want. From what I here, parents run to administration when they feel their child is not being right and administration supports them. Also teachers don't work with borderline kids that are good athletes. So you lose that athlete. They have everything in place to be successful but everyone has to be on the same page.
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Old 01-24-18, 01:30 PM
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From what I can see, the coach is a former assistant at Trotwood and is trying to run a program like Trotwood. That is well and good if you have the athletes to do it. You can man run and jump when you are better athletically then the other team, but if they are athletically superior to you, you're going to get smoked. A change in coaching philosophy could help considerably. They aren't jumping to 15 or 20 wins, but they'd do a lot better than 7 wins in 4 years!
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Old 01-24-18, 01:33 PM
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West Carrollton was beating Troy last night in the 4th quarter and could have won the game but Troy had a big 4th quarter. Despite Troy's 6-8 record, they are not a whole lot better than West Carrollton. If you cannot beat Troy, then you are not going to win many games.
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Old 02-06-18, 10:14 AM
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We went to the WC basketball game Friday evening against Trotwood. The buzz from the kids and some parents was there was suppose to be a issues during the Varsity game. The only issue was two of WC JV players fighting each other on the bench during the game. It was total chaos causing us to forfeit the game, one player in handcuffs and a lot of cussing! It was very sad for the community and the kids that care about the school. There was JV players for WC crying. No administration was in the gym when this started and the coach did not get involved!! It's time for a change
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Old 02-08-18, 04:02 PM
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We went to the WC basketball game Friday evening against Trotwood. The buzz from the kids and some parents was there was suppose to be a issues during the Varsity game. The only issue was two of WC JV players fighting each other on the bench during the game. It was total chaos causing us to forfeit the game, one player in handcuffs and a lot of cussing! It was very sad for the community and the kids that care about the school. There was JV players for WC crying. No administration was in the gym when this started and the coach did not get involved!! It's time for a change
That's awful to hear...but hey, according to some it's not the coaches fault but the lack of administration support. Comical.
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Old 02-08-18, 08:59 PM
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Help is on the way. 8th grade is 13-3 and 7th grade is 13-2.
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Old 02-09-18, 11:25 AM
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Help is on the way. 8th grade is 13-3 and 7th grade is 13-2.
That of course is promising, but success at middle school doesn't necessarily translate into success at the high school. Especially in basketball when so many schools have two middle school teams and the talent is split in half. It is nice to see there is something in the pipeline though!
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Old 02-09-18, 11:40 AM
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A player in uniform was taken away in handcuffs?
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Old 02-09-18, 06:14 PM
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Only seen 3 games (2 home, 1 away) and the things that stood out on those nights were a general lack of disciple. Players ignoring coaches from such simple things as get you hands up (play defense like they are armless lol) to refusing to come over and talk to a coach during free throws or even when bringing it up the court. Seems like the kids have kinda given up respecting simple requests. The other interesting sight is halftime of the Varsity game, the JV (and maybe freshman) shooting. That's not so bad if they were working on their skill but instead taking half-court shots and/or shots from behind the team bench. And then when the Varsity comes out, some refuse to give them the balls, etc. That's also on the Administration and I would agree with the assessment that the AD is not ready. Sometimes, change for he sake of change is appropriate. Looks like it could be here.
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