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Old 09-10-18, 08:21 PM
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Daniel Kerkvliet commits to Ohio State

Daniel Kerkvliet committed to Ohio State today via his Instagram. Kerkvliet is a projected heavyweight from Minnesota who is the #1 ranked overall wrestler in the 2019 class according to FloWrestling. Kerkvliet was a Cadet world champ last year and runner up this year, and made the Junior world team this year (but will miss the event due to injury).

Kerkvliet will not be wrestling in high school matches this year, but will be spending the year at the OTC. I also should mention (for those who want to project lineups) that Kerkvliet could potentially qualify for an Olympic redshirt if the criteria are similar to last time (Junior world medalist/top 7 at Trials for Kerkvliet in 2019).


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https://www.instagram.com/p/BnkQSfTA...anielkerkvliet
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Old 09-10-18, 09:30 PM
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Huge get - hope he rides the bench behind Singletary for a season (after Oly RS then a reg RS).
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Old 09-10-18, 10:35 PM
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Huge get - hope he rides the bench behind Singletary for a season (after Oly RS then a reg RS).
Your hope is to waste a year of eligibility for Kerkvliet? No offense to Singletary, but he isnít starting ahead of Kerkvliet IMHO. If Kerk wanted to sit 3 years before getting into the starting lineup he would have just stayed at Minnesota. If I was a Buckeye fan, which I admittedly am not, my hope would be to just hold onto Kerkís commitment, dude has committed to 3 teams already. He said he was going to take his time this time and take all of his visits, then he takes one visit and immediately commits to a team with a consensus top 20 overall recruit who is a freshman at his only spot in the lineup
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Old 09-11-18, 05:49 AM
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You say waste, I say maxamize the eligibility of two studs.

At a minimum, one guy will sit for one year. I hope thatís DK.
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Old 09-11-18, 06:55 AM
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You say waste, I say maxamize the eligibility of two studs.



At a minimum, one guy will sit for one year. I hope thatís DK.

If my math is right, and often it isnít, one guy sits for 2 years. Now if DK takes an OlyRS then just one year. And the guy sitting wonít be DK.


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Old 09-11-18, 07:10 AM
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You say waste, I say maxamize the eligibility of two studs.

At a minimum, one guy will sit for one year. I hope that’s DK.
And that all sounds good in theory, but unfortunately this isn’t a video game. I’m not sure about many things in life, but I am sure Kerk doesn’t want to sit 3 straight years at Ohio State. Most kids struggle with sitting out a single year, especially the super elite super competitive types which Kerk seems to be. The writing is on the wall imo, Singletary is likely either to sit behind Kerk, transfer, or try to get down to 97.
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Old 09-11-18, 07:31 AM
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Not a big deal...the same thing will happen as it did when Snyder bumped to heavy. Haines transferred.
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Old 09-11-18, 08:22 AM
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Kerk is already taking a year at OTC. Is it out of the realm of possibility for him to take two years (gray shirt) to focus on international career? Not to rain on anyone's parade here, but after backing out of two prior verbals I think anything is possible at this point. Although, admittedly, tOSU is the best fit for this kid, based on his stated goals.
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Old 09-11-18, 09:12 AM
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If you are a Olympic hopeful BIG man, why would you not want to eat, sleep, breath, and TRAIN with Kyle Snyder? GO BUCKS!

No spot is safe, the way it should be! Iron sharpens Iron, This is why we are among the best every year!
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Old 09-11-18, 09:40 AM
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Not a big deal...the same thing will happen as it did when Snyder bumped to heavy. Haines transferred.
That's how I see it. Haines is now a senior at Lock Haven and is part of a group of about 8 guys or so that are somewhere between a 5th or 6th if they have a great year or a R12 if they don't win enough of those 2-1 and 3-2 matches at 285. I see Singletary as one of those guys too. I think DK is going to be special. Maybe not Captain America special, but a guy who will be nipping at the heels of Gabe Steveson.
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Old 09-11-18, 10:10 AM
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I just hope it doesn't preclude tOSU from getting Braxton Amos next year.

Getting crowded at the top.
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Old 09-11-18, 11:40 AM
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Here's a few other #1 recruits that turned out pretty decent for tOSU:
Kyle Snyder 2014
Bo Jordan 2013
Logan Stieber 2010
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Old 09-11-18, 12:26 PM
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Singletary will be the one sitting in my opinion.

Kerkvliet is too good to waste a year....
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Old 09-11-18, 12:31 PM
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Not a big deal...the same thing will happen as it did when Snyder bumped to heavy. Haines transferred.
And with the new transfer rules, it makes it easier for someone like Singletary to transfer later in his career and not have to waste a year of eligibility.
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Old 09-11-18, 12:42 PM
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Singletary will likely be cutting to 197 now.
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Old 09-11-18, 01:13 PM
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I don't see it. He spent a year getting up to almost 240 lbs and will spend 2 more years wrestling heavy and then cut to 197?
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Old 09-11-18, 01:34 PM
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I just hope it doesn't preclude tOSU from getting Braxton Amos next year.

Getting crowded at the top.
My understanding is Amos is going 197 in college. Of course this is still a few years away, so things could change.
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Old 09-11-18, 05:28 PM
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My understanding is Amos is going 197 in college. Of course this is still a few years away, so things could change.

I guess weíll see if he gets any taller. Heís built a lot like Snyder. Which brings me to a recurring argument...I sure wish they had a 220 class in college. Makes too much sense.
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Old 09-11-18, 08:42 PM
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I guess weíll see if he gets any taller. Heís built a lot like Snyder. Which brings me to a recurring argument...I sure wish they had a 220 class in college. Makes too much sense.
Agree with 220
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Old 09-12-18, 07:59 AM
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Agree with 220
Nah, you only need it in high school.... <sarcasm alert>
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Old 09-12-18, 09:03 AM
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Agree with 220
I agree with 220 as well, but I don't think it's on the horizon. And if they did add a higher weight, they'd probably do a shift and stay with 10 weights. What would make sense to me is if the NCAA would try to come close to international weights in FS. That would keep it at 10 weights and look something like this:
125 (57kg)
134 (61kg)
143 (65kg)
154 (70kg)
163 (74kg)
174 (79kg)
189 ((86kg)
202 (92kg)
213 (97kg)
275 (125kg)

The gap at the top goes from almost 100 lbs (96) to 62 lbs.
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Old 09-12-18, 10:09 AM
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I agree with 220 as well, but I don't think it's on the horizon. And if they did add a higher weight, they'd probably do a shift and stay with 10 weights. What would make sense to me is if the NCAA would try to come close to international weights in FS. That would keep it at 10 weights and look something like this:
125 (57kg)
134 (61kg)
143 (65kg)
154 (70kg)
163 (74kg)
174 (79kg)
189 ((86kg)
202 (92kg)
213 (97kg)
275 (125kg)

The gap at the top goes from almost 100 lbs (96) to 62 lbs.
But that makes way too much sense, so it won't happen.
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Old 09-12-18, 08:07 PM
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No idea if he's thought about it or not, but Kollin Moore will have the option to use his Olympic redshirt as well for the 2019-2020 season.
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Old 09-13-18, 08:46 AM
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I agree with 220 as well, but I don't think it's on the horizon. And if they did add a higher weight, they'd probably do a shift and stay with 10 weights. What would make sense to me is if the NCAA would try to come close to international weights in FS. That would keep it at 10 weights and look something like this:
125 (57kg)
134 (61kg)
143 (65kg)
154 (70kg)
163 (74kg)
174 (79kg)
189 ((86kg)
202 (92kg)
213 (97kg)
275 (125kg)

The gap at the top goes from almost 100 lbs (96) to 62 lbs.
One of the main reasons I like adding 220 is to go to 11 weights. Sure makes duals a lot easier...instead of deciding them by who had the first 1st period takedown or most 2nd period riding time or however they're often decided now.

Which is also another reason why I am sure they won't do it. Makes too much sense.
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Old 09-13-18, 08:56 AM
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No idea if he's thought about it or not, but Kollin Moore will have the option to use his Olympic redshirt as well for the 2019-2020 season.
I see 2020 as a year that tOSU can make a run at an NCAA title, but would need all hands on deck. While it's possible this year, it is unlikely and would take a PSU injury or two, PSU under-performance and tOSU over-performance.

Strangely, this past year took an under-performance by tOSU and over-performance by PSU to win a title for PSU. While this was a nail biter all season long, tOSU was positioned to win the NCAAs if they held their seeds, which they did not. NaTo dropped from a #2 to a #3 (-2.5), Pletcher from a #3 to a #4 (-1), Hayes from a #5 to a R12 (-8) and Moore from a #1 to a #4 (-7.5). McKenna improved his seed from a #4 to a #3 (+1), Micah from a #7 to a #6 (+2.5) and Bo from a #6 to a #5 (+1). Based on seeds tOSU under-performed by 14.5. PSU, on the other hand, over-performed by 7 points. This 21.5 shift won the NCAAs for PSU by 8 points over tOSU. The other strange thing about last year is that tOSU actually scored more bonus points than PSU at the NCAAs (by 0.5 points). This was thought to be a clear PSU edge that didn't materialize.

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Old 09-13-18, 08:58 AM
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One of the main reasons I like adding 220 is to go to 11 weights. Sure makes duals a lot easier...instead of deciding them by who had the first 1st period takedown or most 2nd period riding time or however they're often decided now.

Which is also another reason why I am sure they won't do it. Makes too much sense.
Going to 11 weights dilutes the scholarships. They won't add another scholarship for wrestling, and you would have 9.9 for 11 weights instead of 10 weights.
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Old 09-13-18, 09:18 AM
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I see 2020 as a year that tOSU can make a run at an NCAA title, but would need all hands on deck. While it's possible this year, it is unlikely and would take a PSU injury or two, PSU under-performance and tOSU over-performance.
The 2020 lineup will be very young with as many as 5 or 6 RS or true freshmen in the lineup (Heinselman, Kinner, Sasso, Rocky Jordan, Hoffman and DK). They are probably too young to win it all, but they could make a nice four year run of being right up there.
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Old 09-13-18, 10:49 AM
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Going to 11 weights dilutes the scholarships. They won't add another scholarship for wrestling, and you would have 9.9 for 11 weights instead of 10 weights.


Yes, of course you are right. In my Pollyanna world they would also go back to 11 scholarships. Alas, a boy can dream...
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Old 09-13-18, 12:01 PM
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We're getting off the topic of DK, but here's a short history of NCAA weights:
1928 seven weight classes
1929-1951 eight weight classes
1952-2019 ten weight classes

I don't think this has changed in the last 68 years, but didn't check every year. So there could have been changes in the number of weight classes somewhere from 1929 to 1951 and 1952 to 2019.
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Old 09-13-18, 12:03 PM
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with the huge drop in NCAA D1 programs the past 68 years we could probably afford to add a class.
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