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Old 09-01-18, 06:16 PM
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Edgewood coach telling the kids to watch out for the cheap stuff. He said Franklin will do what Franklin does.
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Old 09-01-18, 06:22 PM
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Franklin 4th and 6 and the Edgewood 41. 3:08 to go
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Old 09-01-18, 06:24 PM
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1st down Franklin from an Edgewood face mask penalty
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Old 09-01-18, 06:25 PM
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Pass interference Franklin. 4th and 10 at the 40
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Old 09-01-18, 06:26 PM
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Interception in the end zone. Edgewood ball with 2:27 to go in the game.
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Old 09-01-18, 06:29 PM
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1st down Edgewood. 45 seconds time go. Ball game.
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Old 09-01-18, 09:15 PM
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Edgewood coach telling the kids to watch out for the cheap stuff. He said Franklin will do what Franklin does.


This isnít necessary. We donít need this kind of crap.

Hard fought games are what they are, divisive commentary not needed. Thanks


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Old 09-01-18, 09:24 PM
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Franklin needs to switch to a Pro style offense tomorrow. They donít have the playmakers required for the spread/read. Big Oline is anemic zone blocking. Get them low and driving in a power-I and get some production.


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Old 09-01-18, 09:26 PM
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Franklin needs to switch to a Pro style offense tomorrow. They donít have the playmakers required for the spread/read. Big Oline is anemic zone blocking. Get them low and driving in a power-I and get some production.


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Get your other QB off the bench, put 9 and 32 in the backfield. Lay the spurs to those big horses and watch the show. Itís not that hard. Stop trying to be cute.


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Old 09-01-18, 09:30 PM
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Suck it up buttercup. The coach obviously trying to protect his players and make them aware that they need to keep their heads up. When a team is down, you could start seeing cheap shots. That could come from any team, not just Franklin.

Also, being down 28-9, it wasnít necessary for the announcer to rub it in Franklinís face with a comment he made. In all honesty, neither team impressed me at all. Franklin is big up front on offense but slow. Edgewood was fast on defense and had Woods running for his life the rest of the 4th quarter.

Oh, and one last thing. If you donít like whatís being said, then donít read it. Just sayin
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Old 09-01-18, 09:40 PM
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Edgewood-Franklin Week 2

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Suck it up buttercup. The coach obviously trying to protect his players and make them aware that they need to keep their heads up. When a team is down, you could start seeing cheap shots. That could come from any team, not just Franklin.



Also, being down 28-9, it wasnít necessary for the announcer to rub it in Franklinís face with a comment he made. In all honesty, neither team impressed me at all. Franklin is big up front on offense but slow. Edgewood was fast on defense and had Woods running for his life the rest of the 4th quarter.



Oh, and one last thing. If you donít like whatís being said, then donít read it. Just sayin


Didnít see any cheap shots so your subjective commentary isnít necessary.
Just a stupid waste of a post. Donít put words in other peopleís mouths. State your opinion, ok, but unless you are on the sideline donít imply what coaches are telling their kids. Especially that negative crap. The game doesnít need that.


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Old 09-01-18, 10:22 PM
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Edgewood-Franklin

Edgewood completes conquest of Franklin, off to 2-0 start

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Old 09-02-18, 12:01 AM
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How many games do we get shutout of the end zone before we let Bowermaster play a series? Not even saying Woods is playing bad. But what is it going to hurt. This offense needs woke up!
Good point .....they are in a total funk on O...need to do something to shake things up...A change at the QB position is the most obvious when any team is without a TD for 2 games ...Usually is not J&ST the QB's fault but then again Woods isn't getting it done ...I have noticed Woods does much better on the games 1st series ...then the D adjusts a little and he seems to tighten up and force the pass or just take off running ...I can't recall seeing him step up in the pocket to avoid the rush then throw downfield ...too quick to pull down and run... The bleacher experts are saying the Sr QB is the one most of the team have confidence in ...he may be more of a leader and have better QB instincts ...but thats what they always say about a back up ...lol...BUT ...he should get a shot ...what's to lose ...Xenia will be a loss for sure the way things are now...
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Old 09-02-18, 12:15 AM
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Good point .....they are in a total funk on O...need to do something to shake things up...A change at the QB position is the most obvious when any team is without a TD for 2 games ...Usually is not J&ST the QB's fault but then again Woods isn't getting it done ...I have noticed Woods does much better on the games 1st series ...then the D adjusts a little and he seems to tighten up and force the pass or just take off running ...I can't recall seeing him step up in the pocket to avoid the rush then throw downfield ...too quick to pull down and run... The bleacher experts are saying the Sr QB is the one most of the team have confidence in ...he may be more of a leader and have better QB instincts ...but thats what they always say about a back up ...lol...BUT ...he should get a shot ...what's to lose ...Xenia will be a loss for sure the way things are now...
Uh the fact of the matter is, Franklin receivers dropped 2 sure touchdown passes. Uh would have totally changed this game.QB put the ball there, kids have to catch it.Edgewood played really stupid football .11 penalties, 6 of those of the 15 yard variety. Uh if we do this next week it will be a massacre.
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Old 09-02-18, 05:20 AM
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How many games do we get shutout of the end zone before we let Bowermaster play a series? Not even saying Woods is playing bad. But what is it going to hurt. This offense needs woke up!
No issues with seeing what the back up can do. Big issue with a huge line that canít get any push on running plays and has been terrible in pass protection. Iíd love to see a shake up there as well. Also, the franklin wide receivers are dropping to many balls and woods is throwing to many passes under duress. 8 quarters and zero touchdowns. Time for some soul searching.
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Old 09-02-18, 07:39 AM
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Woods was throwing on the run the entire time. 1 for sure touchdown in the 4th quarter was dropped. Would have made it 21-16. Another drop at the 10. Also a terrible call on the Franklin wide receiver for pass interference at the 10. The Edgewood corner didn't even turn to look for the ball. The Franklin kid put his arms around the corners back to try and catch it but they called in on the offense.

As big as that offensive line is they should be able to run on anyone. They're slow and can't block.
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Old 09-02-18, 07:50 AM
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So you're telling me the fix is putting in the less mobile QB in behind a bad offensive line? Woods is running for his life, and his wideouts don't help him at all with all the drops, they've had crucial drops the past two weeks and have lost their two starting wideouts now. Don't think putting the kid who doesn't run well behind that Oline is the cure all.
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Old 09-02-18, 08:13 AM
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Change the offense to a pro-style. Put 9and 32 in the backfield run the ball and let the big boys run block. Passive zone blocking is for those that can move their feet. Thatís not you.


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Old 09-02-18, 08:22 AM
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Woods was throwing on the run the entire time. 1 for sure touchdown in the 4th quarter was dropped. Would have made it 21-16. Another drop at the 10. Also a terrible call on the Franklin wide receiver for pass interference at the 10. The Edgewood corner didn't even turn to look for the ball. The Franklin kid put his arms around the corners back to try and catch it but they called in on the offense.



As big as that offensive line is they should be able to run on anyone. They're slow and can't block.


Actually he did turn and go for the ball. Stop the rose colored lenses and be honest. In HS ball the call could have gone either way except the WR pushed off a bit. Surprised they called it at all.


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Old 09-02-18, 01:55 PM
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So you're telling me the fix is putting in the less mobile QB in behind a bad offensive line? Woods is running for his life, and his wideouts don't help him at all with all the drops, they've had crucial drops the past two weeks and have lost their two starting wideouts now. Don't think putting the kid who doesn't run well behind that Oline is the cure all.
Typically Bowermaster gets the ball out faster than woods. Heís not as good as woods on the read option but he does get the ball out fast. I wouldnít mind him having a series or two in each half to see what he can do. Itís desperate times here.
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Old 09-02-18, 02:15 PM
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So you're telling me the fix is putting in the less mobile QB in behind a bad offensive line? Woods is running for his life, and his wideouts don't help him at all with all the drops, they've had crucial drops the past two weeks and have lost their two starting wideouts now. Don't think putting the kid who doesn't run well behind that Oline is the cure all.

You can say dropped passes, turnovers, missed opportunities, exc. All day long. At the end of the day it's week 3 and no touchdowns. Time to go back to the drawing board... latest article mention's changes in personnel
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Old 09-02-18, 05:07 PM
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You can say dropped passes, turnovers, missed opportunities, exc. All day long. At the end of the day it's week 3 and no touchdowns. Time to go back to the drawing board... latest article mention's changes in personnel
Uh don't understand Franklin totally changing the offense this season. Offense last season was outstanding before all injuries. One of the best players in the history of the school and a really good senior QB went down plus other important players. No D3 team could stand that.
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Old 09-02-18, 05:12 PM
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You can say dropped passes, turnovers, missed opportunities, exc. All day long. At the end of the day it's week 3 and no touchdowns. Time to go back to the drawing board... latest article mention's changes in personnel
Uh QB put the ball on target for 2 TDS and it was dropped. That's not on theQB, he found the open man and delivered a strike. Those 2 scores would have totally changed this game.Panic is not the way to run a football team.Matt Centers is a bad azz football player closes like a missile and when he hits you, you go down.
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Woods was throwing on the run the entire time. 1 for sure touchdown in the 4th quarter was dropped. Would have made it 21-16. Another drop at the 10. Also a terrible call on the Franklin wide receiver for pass interference at the 10. The Edgewood corner didn't even turn to look for the ball. The Franklin kid put his arms around the corners back to try and catch it but they called in on the offense.

As big as that offensive line is they should be able to run on anyone. They're slow and can't block.
Uh, please don't complain about the calls, Edgewood had 11 penalties called on them, 6 of the 15 yard variety.
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Old 09-02-18, 06:27 PM
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Uh QB put the ball on target for 2 TDS and it was dropped. That's not on theQB, he found the open man and delivered a strike. Those 2 scores would have totally changed this game.Panic is not the way to run a football team.Matt Centers is a bad azz football player closes like a missile and when he hits you, you go down.
Were you at the game ...lol...Woods was 8 for 28 for 64 yards ...add the two "drops " in question and the stats are still ugly....one of the td drops was very low but the receiver did touch it so he should catch it...Everyone saying Woods was running for his life ...18 carries ...but he pulls the ball down WAY too soon way too often...he is hesitant to step up in the pocket and throw knowing he will be hit ....Not being mean but it is part of the problem ...he will throw 1 ball on target and three too far off to catch ....not hard to see...Who knows if the Sr QB will do better but at 0 and 2 with NO TDs its probably time to see...Xenia won't be fun for either QB with the line playing the way they are ...
ALSO...what IF Edgewood didn't fumble OR make the bad punts OR play tressel ball in the 3rd QT...What ifs are always in every game ...Edgewood dominated ..largely due to no offence by Franklin..
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Old 09-02-18, 06:31 PM
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Uh don't understand Franklin totally changing the offense this season. Offense last season was outstanding before all injuries. One of the best players in the history of the school and a really good senior QB went down plus other important players. No D3 team could stand that.

BUT...they DON'T have Montgomery and the QB is not playing well AND both lines are erratic...they better do something different ...what's the definition of insanity ?
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Typically Bowermaster gets the ball out faster than woods. He’s not as good as woods on the read option but he does get the ball out fast. I wouldn’t mind him having a series or two in each half to see what he can do. It’s desperate times here.
I understand that the Sr QB played better in the 4 preseason events ....that he is much more accurate ..makes quicker decisions and gets the ball out quicker ...with the Franklin line he will need to...
I also understand he had a bad ACL in his Frosh and a 2nd ACL tear in Soph year....His Jr year he was ineligible for 1st 5 games as a transfer and Woods got the job when the starting QB went down...SOOO the Bowermaster kid has not had any real game high school time to speak of ...who knows what he can do ...At 0 and 2 & zero TDs he couldn't do any worse could he ...BUT ...a missing aspect is that according to the folks in the bleachers is that the players have much more confidence in the Sr ...he was a star and a leader in pee wee and Jr high and the kids know him well...they don't dislike woods but they trust Bowermaster...not my words ...came from some parents of other players ...

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So you're telling me the fix is putting in the less mobile QB in behind a bad offensive line? Woods is running for his life, and his wideouts don't help him at all with all the drops, they've had crucial drops the past two weeks and have lost their two starting wideouts now. Don't think putting the kid who doesn't run well behind that Oline is the cure all.
Good points...BUT ...IF the other kid is a better QUARTERBACK...and IF he makes quicker / better decisions and IF he is more accurate that can offset less mobility..We can look at RG3 and Drew Breeze to see it is feasible...
But we can't know if any of this is the case ...should they find out ??? They DO KNOW they are 0 and 2 with ZERO TDs...
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Good points...BUT ...IF the other kid is a better QUARTERBACK...and IF he makes quicker / better decisions and IF he is more accurate that can offset less mobility..We can look at RG3 and Drew Breeze to see it is feasible...
But we can't know if any of this is the case ...should they find out ??? They DO KNOW they are 0 and 2 with ZERO TDs...
Uh I say again QB put the ball right on the money for 2 TDS and the ball was dropped. He cant throw it and catch it. Same deal last week on Franklins first drive. All the way down the field and RB fumbled inside the ten yardline.Not the QBs fault.
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Were you at the game ...lol...Woods was 8 for 28 for 64 yards ...add the two "drops " in question and the stats are still ugly....one of the td drops was very low but the receiver did touch it so he should catch it...Everyone saying Woods was running for his life ...18 carries ...but he pulls the ball down WAY too soon way too often...he is hesitant to step up in the pocket and throw knowing he will be hit ....Not being mean but it is part of the problem ...he will throw 1 ball on target and three too far off to catch ....not hard to see...Who knows if the Sr QB will do better but at 0 and 2 with NO TDs its probably time to see...Xenia won't be fun for either QB with the line playing the way they are ...
ALSO...what IF Edgewood didn't fumble OR make the bad punts OR play tressel ball in the 3rd QT...What ifs are always in every game ...Edgewood dominated ..largely due to no offence by Franklin..
Uh, no both dropped TD passes were right on the numbers, easy catches but we are dealing with teenagers.Point is QB made the proper throws and recievers did not make the plays.
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