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Old 01-24-18, 10:43 PM
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No Iím not mad at all. Those of you that know the actual rules of the game. The intentional foul call was correct. It was unfortunate but it was right.
then how come it was not called later in OT when it was obvious?
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Old 01-24-18, 10:44 PM
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No I’m not mad at all. Those of you that know the actual rules of the game. The intentional foul call was correct. It was unfortunate but it was right.
If you say so. Good luck vs. Wayne Feb 3rd. You'll need it
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Old 01-24-18, 10:48 PM
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then how come it was not called later in OT when it was obvious?
Maybe they thought Wayne shot enough free throws
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Old 01-24-18, 10:52 PM
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If you say so. Good luck vs. Wayne Feb 3rd. You'll need it
We will see
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Old 01-24-18, 10:53 PM
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Maybe they thought Wayne shot enough free throws
Springfield is a physical team that presses and fouls a lot. Not Wayne's fault...not to mention the officials missed multiple over the back fouls on Springfield
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Old 01-24-18, 10:53 PM
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We will see
We sure will
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Old 01-24-18, 10:53 PM
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then how come it was not called later in OT when it was obvious?
You canít grab a player by the waist and not make a play on the ball. What was so obvious in OT?
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Old 01-24-18, 10:54 PM
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Springfield is a physical team that presses and fouls a lot. Not Wayne's fault...not to mention the officials missed multiple over the back fouls on Springfield
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Old 01-24-18, 11:03 PM
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Homer
Maybe, maybe not. I've said on here many times how good Springfield is and think they'll win the rematch in SF. I was not criticizing the Cats just saying the type of defense they play can be called for more fouls but I am a Wayne fan so biased.
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Old 01-24-18, 11:05 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. I've said on here many times how good Springfield is and think they'll win the rematch in SF. I was not criticizing the Cats just saying the type of defense they play can be called for more fouls but I am a Wayne fan so biased.
Just ribbing you
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Old 01-24-18, 11:06 PM
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Wayne shot 23 free throws. 8 of them are from SF fouling to put Wayne on the line. Wayne made 15. Springfield shot 9 and made 6.
Thanks, that's about what I thought.

As far the foul on the baseline at the end of OT, I do agree that it should have been called intentional, especially after the one called on Blue - which was pretty flagrant. I know they had a foul to give, but as Moss tried to race past Blue he basically bear hugged him rather than just grab his arm or something like that. IMHO it was the right call.

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Old 01-24-18, 11:07 PM
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Just ribbing you
I know, great game. Good luck the rest of the year besides the rematch
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Old 01-24-18, 11:07 PM
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Maybe, maybe not. I've said on here many times how good Springfield is and think they'll win the rematch in SF. I was not criticizing the Cats just saying the type of defense they play can be called for more fouls but I am a Wayne fan so biased.
So itís okay for you to say Springfield is going to win at home, but I cant say that I feel they are better than Wayne? Lol
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Old 01-24-18, 11:13 PM
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So itís okay for you to say Springfield is going to win at home, but I cant say that I feel they are better than Wayne? Lol
Well IF Springfield does win the rematch they will be 1-1 vs. each other which translates to being equal IMO. I say that I think they will win in SF because they are insanely tough to beat there and Rodgers will be back...You can feel however you want of course lol but Wayne won so as of now is better. In my opinion
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Old 01-24-18, 11:17 PM
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Well IF Springfield does win the rematch they will be 1-1 vs. each other which translates to being equal IMO. I say that I think they will win in SF because they are insanely tough to beat there and Rodgers will be back...You can feel however you want of course lol but Wayne won so as of now is better. In my opinion
Wayne also has a better resume so far this year, though Springfield will get some tough games later in the year against Moeller and Trotwood. There is a reason Wayne is rated so high and that is based on their record and schedule.
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Old 01-24-18, 11:20 PM
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Springfield is a physical team that presses and fouls a lot. Not Wayne's fault...not to mention the officials missed multiple over the back fouls on Springfield
With Springfield's style of play I do expect them to get called for more fouls, but I did think that Wayne wasn't called for lot of hand checks that Springfield was, and there could have been a lot more fouls called in the paint (which I think Springfield did a good job of exploiting).

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Old 01-24-18, 11:22 PM
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Thanks, that's about what I thought.

As far the foul on the baseline at the end of OT, I do agree that it should have been called intentional, especially after the one called on Blue - which was pretty flagrant. I know they had a foul to give, but as Moss tried to race past Blue he basically bear hugged him rather than just grab his arm or something like that. IMHO it was the right call.

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I think you mean Quisenberry. He was the one that fouled at mid court.

I still did not like the call especially at the point of the game. It could of been a game changer.

Will the rematch take place before or after seeding?
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Old 01-24-18, 11:24 PM
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With Springfield's style of play I do expect them to get called for more fouls, but I did think that Wayne wasn't called for lot of hand checks that Springfield was, and there could have been a lot more fouls called in the paint (which I think Springfield did a good job of exploiting).

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Very valid points. Well said...I think we can all agree at least that the refs left something to be imagined. They do their best at the end of the day, it's a thankless tough job esp. a sold out Springfield-Wayne game
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Old 01-24-18, 11:30 PM
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Will the rematch take place before or after seeding?
According to Ohsaa.org the tournament Draw is Feb. 11th, the rematch is Feb. 9th
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Old 01-24-18, 11:31 PM
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Wayne also has a better resume so far this year, though Springfield will get some tough games later in the year against Moeller and Trotwood. There is a reason Wayne is rated so high and that is based on their record and schedule.
That's a fair point, Wayne has played a pretty strong schedule. Other than Centerville and Cleveland Heights (and maybe Belmont) Springfield's schedule has been rather easy, but considering they mostly played that stretch without their two starting guards I felt the Cats were being overlooked/underrated by many (including vamps).

Whatever Taylor did between the game last night and tonight to get benched for the 1st quarter I hope he learned his lesson, that was the absolute worst time for it to happen and may be the reason the Cats were fighting up hill most of the game.

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Old 01-24-18, 11:38 PM
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According to Ohsaa.org the tournament Draw is Feb. 11th, the rematch is Feb. 9th
But remember coaches get to vote online for a week before the draw (I think the deadline is actually midnight on the 9th). So some coaches might vote before the rematch, some may wait and see. Regardless, barring a collapse by either, they'll be 1-2 and wouldn't have a 3rd game until regionals (assuming both get that far).

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Old 01-24-18, 11:41 PM
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But remember coaches get to vote online for a week before the draw (I think the deadline is actually midnight on the 9th). So some coaches might vote before the rematch, some may wait and see. Regardless, barring a collapse by either, they'll be 1-2 and wouldn't have a 3rd game until regionals (assuming both get that far).

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Getting the #1 seed over #2 will be huge this year. Avoiding Moeller as long as possible will be wise. Not worried about any other team in Cincy but yes, their is still a long way to go before that.
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Old 01-24-18, 11:43 PM
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In case any Wayne fans (or fans in general) are going to the game Sat. the 27th at Wilmington H.S. I found the schedule (is one ticket good for all the games?)

January 27, 2018
4th Annual Wilmington Play-By-Play Classic OH
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Ponitz – Toledo Scott 2:45
Hughes – Cleveland Heights 4:30
Wayne – Cincinnati Princeton 6:15
Wilmington – Spire Academy 8:00
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Very valid points. Well said...I think we can all agree at least that the refs left something to be imagined. They do their best at the end of the day, it's a thankless tough job esp. a sold out Springfield-Wayne game
I was also impressed with the sportsmanship between the teams when the game ended. Both knew they put it all out there and just played an instant classic. Despite the intensity of the rivalry, people outside the area don't realize how close these two communities are, so many crossovers, friends and family between them. This is not a heated rivalry (despite the fight a few years ago), it just a great friendly rivalry (after all, Springfield made Wayne ).
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Old 01-24-18, 11:48 PM
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In case any Wayne fans (or fans in general) are going to the game Sat. the 27th at Wilmington H.S. I found the schedule (is one ticket good for all the games?)

January 27, 2018
4th Annual Wilmington Play-By-Play Classic OH
Wilmington HS (OH)
Ponitz Ė Toledo Scott 2:45
Hughes Ė Cleveland Heights 4:30
Wayne Ė Cincinnati Princeton 6:15
Wilmington Ė Spire Academy 8:00
1 ticket should be good, at least it has been in the previous @ Wilmington.
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Old 01-25-18, 12:25 AM
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It was a great game and had great officiating. Wayne isnít better than Springfield. Congratulations on tonightís victory though....


I don't know what game you saw, because it couldn't have been the one I saw!!! Wayne was definitely better than Springfield! We led the entire game and then led when it counted the most!! Move on...
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Old 01-25-18, 05:15 AM
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I don't know what game you saw, because it couldn't have been the one I saw!!! Wayne was definitely better than Springfield! We led the entire game and then led when it counted the most!! Move on...
Good luck for the rest of your season. I love Wayneís guard play. They are the heart of the team.
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Old 01-25-18, 08:14 AM
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I think the Cats did well. They still have a starter out and they didn't start another. Should be a good rematch. If the Cats starter are healthy and are well behaved, I like the Cats in the rematch by 10.
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Old 01-25-18, 09:05 AM
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Getting the #1 seed over #2 will be huge this year. Avoiding Moeller as long as possible will be wise. Not worried about any other team in Cincy but yes, their is still a long way to go before that.
Is Moeller that good?
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Old 01-25-18, 09:15 AM
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Great game last night! Instant classic! The game was as good as the hype both teams should win district titles come tournament time.
IMO,The difference in last night's game was the veteran guard play of Wayne's D1 guards, Quiz and Parker. Their poise won the game last evening. I do believe Springfield is a better coached team and you can clearly tell that this is not a Trice coached Wayne team in spite of their success. I thought the officiating was consistent as well, not saying it was good but as a coach that's all you ask for good or bad.
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