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11-01-17, 09:52 AM
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TAAC (Toledo Area Athletic Conference) 2017-2018
Starting a new thread for this season.
Any predictions, comments, surprises for this year?
Last year's finish:
Toledo Christian 14 - 0
Cardinal Stritch 11 - 3
Maumee Valley Country Day 9 - 5
Ottawa Hills 9 - 5
Gibsonburg 7 - 7
Danbury 3 - 11
Emmanuel Christian 2 - 12
Northwood 1 - 13
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11-01-17, 01:34 PM
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Maumee Valley, Toledo Christian and Cardinal Stritch have the most coming back. Of those 3 Toledo Christian lost the most with Ochoa, but can never count a McWinnie team out.
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11-08-17, 03:17 PM
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MV scrimmages @ Springfield (Springfield and Waite) Friday 6pm
Lima Super Scrimmage Saturday 10am
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11-09-17, 02:47 PM
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I'm picking Stritch, then MVCD, then TC.
Holifield, Burton and Anderson are a formidable trio.
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11-09-17, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BacktoBack
Holifield, Burton and Anderson are a formidable trio.
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Agree they are tough, but so is Jackson, Woodley and Kynard. They averaged 47+ PPG, between them.
Took this from the other TAAC thread;
G PTS AVG
Zeb Jackson, Maumee Valley 20.0
Jaiden Woodley, Maumee Valley 15.4
Joey Holifield, Cardinal Stritch 13.8
Jordan Burton, Cardinal Stritch 12.7
Caleb Kynard, Maumee Valley 11.9
Last edited by Cardboard Palace; 11-09-17 at 03:31 PM.
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11-09-17, 03:51 PM
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I don't know why I thought Kynard graduated. Old age finally catching up with me I guess...
Both teams will be strong for sure though. I don't know how to feel about MVCDs chances. This is not a knock on the kids at all, especially because I think Woodley has such a big upside, but I just have to put it out there: I question the coaching.
I felt like Zeb wasn't turned loose enough. He is a real weapon and the option of having him at the point distributing, then having him as a scoring point and then moving him to the 2(with Jett at the point), that is a lot for any defense to deal with.
I just don't know what the philosophy of the coach is over there. Again, I am NOT knocking the kids, I'm not into that. I just feel like the use of the talent seemed inconsistent. Maybe it's just me.
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11-10-17, 07:14 AM
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MVCD might be able to match Stritch high end talent but there is no way anyone in the TAAC matches Stritch's depth.
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11-10-17, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BacktoBack
I don't know why I thought Kynard graduated. Old age finally catching up with me I guess...
Both teams will be strong for sure though. I don't know how to feel about MVCDs chances. This is not a knock on the kids at all, especially because I think Woodley has such a big upside, but I just have to put it out there: I question the coaching.
I felt like Zeb wasn't turned loose enough. He is a real weapon and the option of having him at the point distributing, then having him as a scoring point and then moving him to the 2(with Jett at the point), that is a lot for any defense to deal with.
I just don't know what the philosophy of the coach is over there. Again, I am NOT knocking the kids, I'm not into that. I just feel like the use of the talent seemed inconsistent. Maybe it's just me.
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Agreed
The determining factor for TC, CS and MV will be coaching and putting players in a position to be successful. Mc Whinnie is has proven to one of the best at this in the area, While coach K has done a remarkable job in a short period of time. MV has yet to show those skills.
Remember its not about beating teams you should beat, its about beating the teams you should'nt.
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11-10-17, 04:58 PM
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In terms of height, does Stritch have the most length in the area? I remember seeing their bench last year (JV and Varsity) and being shocked at how long some of their guys were.
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11-12-17, 10:17 PM
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TAAC Elite
I got a chance over the weekend to see CS and MV Scrimmage on Friday and
Saturday.
CS is deep and can throw a bunch of different lineups at you. Most importantly they ran good stuff, ball movement and player movement was evident. Watch out for Holifield this year gonna could average some ridiculous numbers like 18pts 6rebs and 6 assist. Kid is unselfish and plays hard.
MV probably had the best talent 1-6 but just like CS ran great stuff, MV was more dribble and 4 out stuff no real purpose to plays or movement. I swear big kid could score but never get the ball on purpose vs. Waite and Springfield. I swear if Jackson doesn't have ball in his hand he doesn't know what to do.
I know its early but from what I saw over the weekend CS is in a better place for a great year due to coaching and depth.
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11-13-17, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaglesrize
Even after we beat them by 20 two years ago in a real game and handled them in this scrimmage.
#bigfishsmallpond
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Somebody must have forgotten the score from the game the year before that one. Stritch won by 20+ and played their JV's the entire 4th quarter...
Sure the Northwood and Emanuel Christian teams are tomato cans but Stritch did beat the two best teams in the NBC last year. Clay got thumped by a mid level NBC team and had a win over a bottom tier NBC team.
Stritch went 5-0 vs the NBC last year beating its best two teams, a midlevel and its two worst teams.
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11-13-17, 01:09 PM
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Since the season is here and I have a close rooting interest in the results, I am going to "retire" from the TAAC Basketball thread and just enjoy the season.
Good luck to all TAAC teams, except when they play Stritch, stay healthy.
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11-13-17, 04:38 PM
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11-14-17, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eaglesrize
My grandson plays for Clay. What you saw and I saw was two different things. We have won maybe 4 games in 2 years and we had no problem with Stritch. Our guards out played their guards and we were missing our best player/PG.
Saw 3 plays from Stritch, pull up 3 off the dribble, fade away 16 footer off the dribble and Omaha or Kansas followed by the kids name......run kid to the top of the key, rip through for right hand dribble drive into a double team turnover or kick it to the corner for an ugly looking 3 with no rotation.
I was near their bench and I am sorry, but when I hear how disrespectful their coaches are toward our team it pisses me off. They seem to think beating up Northwood and Emmanuel Christian makes them superior to us. Even after we beat them by 20 two years ago in a real game and handled them in this scrimmage.
I will say Stritch looks all world in warm-ups, but you can only play 5 at a time good luck with that.
#bigfishsmallpond
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As already mentioned, WTF are you talking about? Clay is down in numbers, size, athleticism, you name it and some overzealous proud grandpappy from Oregon is on here trolling.
Wow that Kool-Aid must be delicious.
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11-14-17, 09:44 AM
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Why are there two threads created by the same person on the same topic?
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11-14-17, 10:38 AM
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One is TAAC the other is TRAC.
Clay looks like they would like to be in the TAAC. Can't say I blame them.
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11-14-17, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FremontKeith
Why are there two threads created by the same person on the same topic?
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Toledo Area Athletic Conference.... different from the TRAC
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11-14-17, 10:59 AM
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#bigfishsmallpond?
That big fish has managed to run it’s way down I-75 twice in the last few years making the Sweet 16. I highly doubt Stritch is concerned at all about the score of the first scrimmage of the year. That’s the difference in being a perennial contender and a perennial doormat. Stritch isn’t going away anytime soon.
Top half of this league will have some very good games against each other. Can’t ever count out Gburg and Ottawa Hills due to quality of coaching and systems that have been in place for quite some time. Very excited for the season to tip-off
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11-14-17, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FremontKeith
Why are there two threads created by the same person on the same topic?
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I thought the same. Old eyes.
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11-14-17, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by irish_buffalo
As already mentioned, WTF are you talking about? Clay is down in numbers, size, athleticism, you name it and some overzealous proud grandpappy from Oregon is on here trolling.
Wow that Kool-Aid must be delicious.
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THAT was mean, talk about WTF. How is it "trolling" to say a team might be "better?" Not that "grandpappy" needs someone to defend but I don't see any disparagment of any other team. Where's the "troll."
We have five posters on a good month. Stop running them off, lol. Be welcoming, like me.
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11-14-17, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglesrize
Doesn't anyone have a job.
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watch your language on here. Kids read this. We'll have no talks of jobs.
Sheesh, next he'll expect us to pay for our own internet.
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11-15-17, 02:19 PM
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TAAC sounds good at the top this year but what do OH and Gburg have this year? OH usually has size it seems.
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11-15-17, 02:34 PM
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Ottawa Hills was not very deep last year and lost their top 2 and maybe 3 guys. They have a couple guys who got time as sophs last year. They will not be big or deep. Gibsonburg has Earnsthausen, but not sure what else. I heard that Northwood has a couple transfers.
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11-16-17, 09:32 AM
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Could be two horse race between C.S and TC something strange brewing at MVCDS. Team split between upper class and lower class. Possible losing some top notch talent.
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11-16-17, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-town
Could be two horse race between C.S and TC something strange brewing at MVCDS. Team split between upper class and lower class. Possible losing some top notch talent.
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Guy starts account and disparages another team, doesn't sound too credible you know that, right? SOunds like a giuy whose team is getting handled or losing recruits.
You're making a rumor. You have a link to something published? No? Show some class and stick to talent eval, team chances...
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11-22-17, 08:50 AM
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I was told Ottawa Hills and Springfield were very even in their scrimmage. That is good for the TAAC. Springfield wasn't great last year, but they were very young and athletic.
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11-22-17, 08:51 AM
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Stritch played with Whitmer.
Sounds like Stritch might not have enough basketballs to compliment it's depth. Coach Kaczmerek's(spl?) toughest task will be figuring out a starting line-up and the rotations after that. Who plays well with who? How many minutes should everyone have? Good problem to have but tougher to figure out than it sounds. Someone's parents are sure to get upset. This is easily the deepest the Cardinal's have been in the history of the school.
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11-22-17, 09:09 AM
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any of them from Oregon? Eastside? Not sure where Stritch gets their students from these days. Still the same?
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11-22-17, 09:48 AM
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Out of TAAC retirement, because I don't want to see this go sideways like the MVCDS post above.
Stritch has a good thing going. The players and parents get it. When you are part of a good program there is competition.
The coaches want to win and will make decisions they feel will help them reach that goal. At the same time Stritch has some wiggle room, because of their schedule, to continue to develop players. They could win 16-17 games playing the last kid on the freshman bench major minutes. It is the other 5 or 6 games from the regular season and tournament when the coaches earn their pay.
As far as the team make up. They have families from all over, Oregon, Northwood, East Toledo, North Toledo, West Toledo, Rossford and Anthony Wayne.
Whitmer didn't have their football guys, but did have all their "main" returning varsity guys. The scrimmage was very competitive. They didn't keep score the last 2 quarters, but in my head (scary) I had Stritch winning by 1 overall.
Back into retirement.
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11-22-17, 12:54 PM
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