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Old 08-15-18, 08:18 PM
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Court Rules Against OHSAA’s Use of Competitive Balance

Court Rules Against OHSAA’s Use of Competitive Balance
Hamilton County court targets use of Tier 1 factor as it applies to GCL coed division schools, but ruling has statewide implications

The court’s TRO ruling was specific to the Tier 1 factor and specifically to St. Bernard Roger Bacon High School and the other members of its league – the Cincinnati Greater Catholic League’s coed division. However, OHSAA member schools voted to have the Competitive Balance process apply to all member schools, both public and non-public.

“We were advised this afternoon of the court’s TRO,” said OHSAA Executive Director Jerry Snodgrass. “Although the court’s ruling was specific to one conference, the OHSAA is an organization that emphasizes treating all of our member schools fairly and consistently, so we will work diligently with our staff, Board of Directors and general counsel to determine the best course of action in light of the TRO.”

The ruling has no affect on regular season schedules or contests, however the OHSAA had already announced the tournament divisional breakdowns for 2018-19 using Competitive Balance for the sports that it affects – soccer, volleyball, football, basketball, baseball and softball


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Old 08-16-18, 07:08 AM
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There is a chance that Carroll soccer could go back to d2. Probably not this season, but maybe next. Depends on the ruling.
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Old 08-16-18, 07:56 AM
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It will change a ton of schools enrollment numbers and their divisions.
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Old 08-17-18, 12:41 PM
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It will change a ton of schools enrollment numbers and their divisions.
Nope. Two for two swap between D1 and D2 and at most five for five swap between D2 and D3. I guess that isn't a 'ton' to me.
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Old 08-17-18, 07:16 PM
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The Ohio High School Athletic Association announced Friday that Cincinnati-based law firm Keating, Muething and Klekamp PLL (KMK) will assist the OHSAA in defense of the lawsuit filed Wednesday in Hamilton County by Roger Bacon High School and the Greater Catholic League Coed.

KMK will join OHSAA general counsel Steve Craig, Esq., in defense of the process that OHSAA member schools voted into place in 2014 that determines how schools are assigned to postseason divisions in football, soccer, volleyball, basketball, softball and baseball.

“We look forward to vigorously defending the OHSAA’s position,” said Joe Callow, partner at KMK. “We believe that the case has no merit and we are in the process of exploring all defenses and legal options.”

“We will aggressively pursue defense of the bylaws that our member schools adopted,” said Jerry Snodgrass, OHSAA Executive Director. “Membership in the OHSAA, which is renewed annually by each school, is voluntary. By being a member, our schools make an agreement with each other to follow their constitution and bylaws that they adopt for themselves. We have a referendum voting process in place that permits member schools to propose and vote for changes to the bylaws and constitution and feel that any change should come about through this established process.”

On Wednesday, the OHSAA was informed that the Court of Common Pleas in Hamilton County granted a temporary restraining order (TRO) that prohibits the OHSAA from utilizing a component of the Competitive Balance process against St. Bernard Roger Bacon High School and the other seven members of the GCL coed division.

However, since OHSAA bylaws apply equally to all member schools, both public and non-public, the TRO has statewide implications. The court’s TRO was specific to the Tier 1 factor, which addresses how non-public schools designate their official feeder schools.
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Old 08-20-18, 10:11 AM
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This is going anywhere.

The local Cincinnati attorney retained to represent the OHSAA certainly has an interest in seeing the case dismissed. His son is one of the best players in the state and plays for a good Div 3 team in Cincinnati. If competitive balance is struck down then Summit Country Day and Roger Bacon both come back to Div. 3 in Cincinnati and would likely be the favorites
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Old 08-20-18, 12:37 PM
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This is going anywhere.

The local Cincinnati attorney retained to represent the OHSAA certainly has an interest in seeing the case dismissed. His son is one of the best players in the state and plays for a good Div 3 team in Cincinnati. If competitive balance is struck down then Summit Country Day and Roger Bacon both come back to Div. 3 in Cincinnati and would likely be the favorites
If Summit is so good... Why not just win D2?
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Old 08-21-18, 09:26 AM
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Not sure I understand. Doesn't have anything to do with Summit. They didn't file the lawsuit. I was just making a point about the impact if competitive balance is thrown out with respect to Cincy area D3.
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Old 08-27-18, 07:49 PM
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The attorney's son plays for a d2 school....So, in essence, he is fighting to keep the gcl schools in d2 WITH his son's team...Mcnick already plays in D2 so we are really talking about Bacon and the northern contingent...and Bacon isn't doing this for soccer...it is for basketball but bad news for them...with Deer Park recruiting hard off of their "state title" they are probably better off in D2 anyway...since the DP coach played the race card hard on tv last year the OHSAA has overlooked the...irregularites? LOl
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Old 08-28-18, 01:54 PM
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good points but his son plays for Seven Hills - they are D3
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Old 09-07-18, 09:55 AM
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Ohio Supreme Court overruled the local court's ruling.
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Old 09-07-18, 04:06 PM
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Ohio Supreme Court overruled the local court's ruling.
Proof? Cause I haven't seen it.

I did find this https://www.marionstar.com/story/spo...ke/1142544002/ article that states the opposite of what you stated.
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Old 09-07-18, 07:29 PM
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Proof? Cause I haven't seen it.

I did find this https://www.marionstar.com/story/spo...ke/1142544002/ article that states the opposite of what you stated.
I'm going to get technical here. Below is the link to an article posted by OHSAA a week back. In a nut shell, a Hamilton County judge ruled that
a component of the competitive balance formula (as applied to the specific Catholic schools involved in the litigation) was not enforceable - which if left in place, would have thrown the 2018 Fall season divisional tournaments in chaos. What the Ohio Supreme Court did was to pause that lower court ruling (for now and perhaps forever) while the Supreme Court hears the case on its merits to decide the ultimate question. So nothing has been decided either way but the current state of litigation should leave the Fall sports tournament divisions assignments as status quo (so competitive balance is still in place for now).

https://ohsaa.org/Sports/News/ArtMID...-Against-OHSAA
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Old 09-08-18, 04:27 AM
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Ohio Supreme Court overruled the local court's ruling.
Getting old sucks. I misread the post. I thought he saying was they that they ruled against the OHSAA for some reason.
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