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Old 10-13-18, 10:19 PM
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2018 Division I Football Poll Voting Discussion (Week 8)

The voting will take place until Monday, October 15th, 2018. The poll for each division will be released that afternoon.

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Old 10-13-18, 10:32 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Ignatius
4. St. Edward
5. Pickerington Central
6. Euclid
7. Canton McKinley
8. Hilliard Davidson
9. Solon
10. Moeller
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Old 10-13-18, 10:49 PM
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Old 10-14-18, 01:52 AM
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Region 1: They do have wins against the other regions. It's a round robin internally, with exception of McKinley. They're unknown but their wins do not seem as strong as the other teams'. Any team on any day.

Region 2: A round robin of fewer teams than R1 but they seem to be around Glenville's lever. I haven't found any strong out of region wins.
Region 3: No clear leader here either. They have a few competitive wins against middle of the road R2 but nothing higher.

Region 4: Colerain seems to be in one competition group and then the Catholics in another. Not much inter-regional competition. R4 has struggles against R1.

I don't recall ever all regions being so balanced. I think state will depend upon where the moon is. Even Div 2 has no clear winner, though no where near the level of uncertainty of Div 1.
1. St. Edward
2. Mentor
3. St. Ignatius
4. Moeller
5. Elder
6. Pickerington Central
7. Hilliard Davidson
8. Colerain
9. Solon
10. Euclid-Solon

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Old 10-14-18, 05:55 AM
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1 Cincinnati Colerain
2 Pickerington Central
3 Hilliard Davidson
4 Mentor
5 Cleveland St. Ignatius
6 Lakewood St. Edward
7 Canton McKinley
8 Solon
9 Euclid
10 Dublin Coffman
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Old 10-14-18, 08:39 AM
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Region 1: They do have wins against the other regions. It's a round robin internally, with exception of McKinley. They're unknown but their wins do not seem as strong as the other teams'. Any team on any day.

Region 2: A round robin of fewer teams than R1 but they seem to be around Glenville's lever. I haven't found any strong out of region wins.
Region 3: No clear leader here either. They have a few competitive wins against middle of the road R2 but nothing higher.

Region 4: Colerain seems to be in one competition group and then the Catholics in another. Not much inter-regional competition. R4 has struggles against R1.

I don't recall ever all regions being so balanced. I think state will depend upon where the moon is. Even Div 2 has no clear winner, though no where near the level of uncertainty of Div 1.
1. St. Edward
2. Mentor
3. St. Ignatius
4. Moeller
5. Elder
6. Pickerington Central
7. Hilliard Davidson
8. Colerain
9. Solon
10. Euclid-Solon
This might be the second best Colerain team ever. 8th in the state?
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Old 10-14-18, 01:00 PM
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This might be the second best Colerain team ever. 8th in the state?

I'm up North. All I have to go on is the old, transistive and there's not much support there. Even up with 4-4 St X. Hasn't really played anyone else, LaSalle being down. Maybe if St. X beats Iggy, that'll move the whole kit and kaboodle up in my mind.


How do you come to the conclusion they are maybe the second best Colerain ever?
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Old 10-14-18, 01:07 PM
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2. Mentor Cardinals
3. Pickerington Central Tigers
4. St. Ignatius Wildcats
5. St. Edward Eagles
6. Hilliard Davidson Wildcats
7. Solon Comets
8. Fairfield Indians
9. Canton McKinley Bulldogs
10. Euclid Panthers

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Old 10-14-18, 03:18 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Pickerington Central
3. Mentor
4. St.ED’s
5. Ignatius
6. Hilliard Davidson
7. Euclid
8. Solon
9. Moeller
10. Canton McKinley

Others: Reynoldsburg, Elder, Coffman, northmont, and St. X

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Old 10-14-18, 03:48 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Edward
4. St. Ignatius
5. Pick Central
6. Hilliard Davidson
7. Euclid
8. Dublin Coffman
9. Fairfield
10. Elder

Others: Solon, Canton McKinley, Northmont, Reynoldsburg, Moeller
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Old 10-14-18, 05:03 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Edward
4. St. Ignatius
5. Pick Central
6. Fairfield
7. Hilliard Davidson
8. Dublin Coffman
9. Euclid
10.Solon


Others Northmont, Moeller, Reynoldsburg
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Old 10-14-18, 05:20 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Ignatius
4. St. Edward
5. Pick Central
6. Hilliard Davidson
7. Canton McKinley
8. Euclid
9. Fairfield
10. Northmont

I think the teams in the top 5 are solid in some order. For the second five, there are at least ten teams that an argument could be made for, perhaps more. An addition to the "others" list might be Hilliard Bradley. An early one-score loss to Davidson and have greatly improved since then.

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Old 10-14-18, 06:57 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Edward
4. St. Ignatius
5. Pick Central
6. Hilliard Davidson
7. Euclid
8. Dublin Coffman
9. Fairfield
10. Elder

Others: Solon, Canton McKinley, Northmont, Reynoldsburg, Moeller
Yeah thatís a good looking top 10. Iíll buy it.
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Old 10-14-18, 09:48 PM
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1. Colerain
2. Mentor
3. St. Edward
4. St. Ignatius
5. Pick Central
6. Hilliard Davidson
7. Euclid
8. Dublin Coffman
9. Fairfield
10. Elder

Others: Solon, Canton McKinley, Northmont, Reynoldsburg, Moeller
How is Elder still a top 10 team? They are 4-4 and have lost to every team they've played with a winning record?

Isn't McKinley undefeated?
Didn't Solon just beat your #2 team in the state?



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Old 10-14-18, 09:54 PM
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2. Mentor
3. St Ignatius
4. St Edwards
5. Pick Central.
6. Canton McKinley
7. Hilliard Davidson
8. Euclid
9. Dublin Coffman
10. Solon
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Old 10-16-18, 05:32 PM
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Region 1: They do have wins against the other regions. It's a round robin internally, with exception of McKinley. They're unknown but their wins do not seem as strong as the other teams'. Any team on any day.

Region 2: A round robin of fewer teams than R1 but they seem to be around Glenville's lever. I haven't found any strong out of region wins.
Region 3: No clear leader here either. They have a few competitive wins against middle of the road R2 but nothing higher.

Region 4: Colerain seems to be in one competition group and then the Catholics in another. Not much inter-regional competition. R4 has struggles against R1.

I don't recall ever all regions being so balanced. I think state will depend upon where the moon is. Even Div 2 has no clear winner, though no where near the level of uncertainty of Div 1.
1. St. Edward
2. Mentor
3. St. Ignatius
4. Moeller
5. Elder
6. Pickerington Central
7. Hilliard Davidson
8. Colerain
9. Solon
10. Euclid-Solon
You have no idea how good Colerain is.........
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Old 10-16-18, 06:39 PM
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You have no idea how good Colerain is.........
Should be fun to find out.

Who has any idea how good ALL of these teams are? Like everyone else, I can only go by what I see on the score board and the competition. I use Eitel, not a ranking service. Just playing a transitive game, it's all I've got to go on.

So guesswork, not Math. It's always a bit more fun to see how these things really play out after making guesses and predictions isn't it.
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Yes but Colerain is no lower than 2nd by any logical or knowledgeable guess .
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Old 10-16-18, 07:30 PM
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I'm up North. All I have to go on is the old, transistive and there's not much support there. Even up with 4-4 St X. Hasn't really played anyone else, LaSalle being down. Maybe if St. X beats Iggy, that'll move the whole kit and kaboodle up in my mind.


How do you come to the conclusion they are maybe the second best Colerain ever?
Been watching Colerain for 6 decades....this is their 2nd best team I've ever seen. No hype, just my observation.
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Old 10-16-18, 08:37 PM
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Been watching Colerain for 6 decades....this is their 2nd best team I've ever seen. No hype, just my observation.
No reason to doubt you. You have insight into why they were fairly even with 4-4 St X who was fairly even with 6-2 Moeller and 4-5 Indy Cath and got stomped by 4-4 Elder?

That 2004 team didn't have even a remotely close game. This years team hasn't beaten anyone badly that has beaten any other contender.

Why are you thinking they are as good as you say?
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Old 10-16-18, 09:13 PM
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Should be fun to find out.

Who has any idea how good ALL of these teams are? Like everyone else, I can only go by what I see on the score board and the competition. I use Eitel, not a ranking service. Just playing a transitive game, it's all I've got to go on.

So guesswork, not Math. It's always a bit more fun to see how these things really play out after making guesses and predictions isn't it.
I've seen all of these teams.... over 200 games so far this year....

Harbins is not a good way to determine how good teams are, non-human rating systems are the best unbiased way to go..... that is just my opinion.
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Been watching Colerain for 6 decades....this is their 2nd best team I've ever seen. No hype, just my observation.
I agree.... this is Colerain's to lose. Colerain though does have a history of brain freezes in the post season.... is this Colerain too good that they can over come when this happens? I say yes... Their defense is just way too good.
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Old 10-17-18, 10:58 AM
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I've seen all of these teams.... over 200 games so far this year....

Harbins is not a good way to determine how good teams are, non-human rating systems are the best unbiased way to go..... that is just my opinion.
I never used harbins. I use transitive. I do think ultimately, seeing the team in action as you have, regardless the competition is superior to transitive but then, your experience should explain what I point out above. Colerain is playing even with .500 teams. The best .500 teams Ohio can produce but still, doesn't that say they're equal, not FAR superior?
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I never used harbins. I use transitive. I do think ultimately, seeing the team in action as you have, regardless the competition is superior to transitive but then, your experience should explain what I point out above. Colerain is playing even with .500 teams. The best .500 teams Ohio can produce but still, doesn't that say they're equal, not FAR superior?
I have Colerain as #1 in the state regardless of division as well as my power rating system. I also believe in the period that I have been watching Colerain that this could be their 2nd best team behind 2004. I do not recall stating that they were far superior over every other team.

Colerain in week 1, week 2, did not look great but from week 5 on they have. I recently saw the Iggy/Moe game and Iggy looked much improve from the last time I saw them. Iggy/Ed's/Mentor vs Colerain would be a good game. PC would also give them a good game. Those are really the only teams I see that could play with them right now in D1. Colerains problem is that they have a history of stumbling in the playoffs and losing games they should of won. X in my opinion is the only team that will match-up well against Colerain in R4. I do not believe Elder or Moe will hang (I know X lost to both of those teams but it has to do with match-ups and not score comparison) with Colerain.
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Old 10-17-18, 02:54 PM
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I have Colerain as #1 in the state regardless of division as well as my power rating system. I also believe in the period that I have been watching Colerain that this could be their 2nd best team behind 2004. I do not recall stating that they were far superior over every other team.

Colerain in week 1, week 2, did not look great but from week 5 on they have. I recently saw the Iggy/Moe game and Iggy looked much improve from the last time I saw them. Iggy/Ed's/Mentor vs Colerain would be a good game. PC would also give them a good game. Those are really the only teams I see that could play with them right now in D1. Colerains problem is that they have a history of stumbling in the playoffs and losing games they should of won. X in my opinion is the only team that will match-up well against Colerain in R4. I do not believe Elder or Moe will hang (I know X lost to both of those teams but it has to do with match-ups and not score comparison) with Colerain.

I'm running more than one conversation here but I'd considered the same thing, that the other competition was at a higher level also. And I also agree, it's about match-ups, particularly along the lines.


Hope I get a chance to see them, but unlikely anying from this neck of the woods is participating in D1 by the time that could happen.
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