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Old 04-07-17, 06:27 AM
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2017 DIII play-off teams

Let's hear them.

Who is playing Desales for the state championship this year?
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Old 04-07-17, 09:44 AM
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As a DeSales supporter I hope you are right, but I would not be surprised if they underachieved again. With the talent they have year in and year out, they should win it every year.


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Old 04-07-17, 11:48 AM
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As a DeSales supporter I hope you are right, but I would not be surprised if they underachieved again. With the talent they have year in and year out, they should win it every year.


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Thank you! Not a desales guy but respect their program and tradition... however, D3 just became even more loaded than it has been. Alter, Hartley, Glenville, Trotwood... Going to be a you know what to make the playoffs and win a game or two. The D3 state finals will be a show for a few years!
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Old 04-07-17, 12:12 PM
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I know as much about SFD program as anyone and thats just stirring the pot.

They haven't won a State Championship since 98 and despite the talent they have returning i don't expect them to Win one this year either.

D3 is the 2nd biggest meat grinder in all the Divisions to Win a State Title in year in and year out and it just got even tougher.

As much as i would love to see them break through i would temper my expectations,
They as a program have nothing to be ashamed of as they do things the right way both on and off the field .
Just as proud of them for the 2nd straight year being named Academic All Ohio by the
Ohio High School Football Association with 18 players earning a 4.0 GPA or higher
and a team GPA of 3.62 during the 1st quarter of the year . IE: During the season.
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Old 04-07-17, 01:47 PM
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Thank you! Not a desales guy but respect their program and tradition... however, D3 just became even more loaded than it has been. Alter, Hartley, Glenville, Trotwood... Going to be a you know what to make the playoffs and win a game or two. The D3 state finals will be a show for a few years!


Thank me for admitting their mediocrity? Ok. And the only team you mentioned that affects DeSales in terms of getting into the playoffs is Hartley. Trotwood and Alter would be in a different region so one would eliminate the other, and the only way you face Glenville would be in the state final. Last I checked they have yet to win a title in any division.


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Old 04-07-17, 01:50 PM
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I know as much about SFD program as anyone and thats just stirring the pot.

They haven't won a State Championship since 98 and despite the talent they have returning i don't expect them to Win one this year either.

D3 is the 2nd biggest meat grinder in all the Divisions to Win a State Title in year in and year out and it just got even tougher.

As much as i would love to see them break through i would temper my expectations,
They as a program have nothing to be ashamed of as they do things the right way both on and off the field .
Just as proud of them for the 2nd straight year being named Academic All Ohio by the
Ohio High School Football Association with 18 players earning a 4.0 GPA or higher
and a team GPA of 3.62 during the 1st quarter of the year . IE: During the season.
Are you another one that think's D3 was better than D2. D3 is the 3rd biggest meat grinder. Just because there are a few great private schools, that doesn't mean the entire division is a grind.

The 32 D2 playoff teams were 15-3 last year against D3 playoff teams.

Desales beating D2 Edgewood was the only quality win a D3 playoff team had against a D2 playoff team.
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Old 04-07-17, 02:36 PM
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Glenville to D3
Hartley to D3
Hoban to D2

Hoban gone, D3 may be easier than last year. Knights are loaded.

D3, Columbus region, definitely tougher with Hartley. Add in BW & DeSales. Only one can advance.

2017: Favorites:
Region 9: StV, Glenville. Hoban gone, as is Benedictine, Lake Catholic.
Region 10: Toledo CC. Who can beat them?
Region 11: DeSales, BW, Hartley. Most competitive Region in State ?
Region 12: Trotwood-Madison - Who can beat them?
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Old 04-07-17, 02:38 PM
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Glenville to D3
Hartley to D3
Hoban to D2

Hoban gone, D3 may be easier than last year. Knights are loaded.

D3, Columbus region, definitely tougher with Hartley. Hartley, BW & DeSales. Only one can advance.

2017: Favorites:
Region 9: StV, Glenville. Hoban gone, as is Benedictine, Lake Catholic.
Region 10: Toledo CC. Who can beat them?
Region 11: DeSales, BW, Hartley. Most competitive Region in State ?
Region 12: Trotwood-Madison - Who can beat them?
Lake Catholic and Benedictine are now D2

You should do some research first.
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Old 04-07-17, 02:40 PM
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Glenville to D3
Hartley to D3
Hoban to D2

Hoban gone, D3 may be easier than last year. Knights are loaded.

D3, Columbus region, definitely tougher with Hartley. Add in BW & DeSales. Only one can advance.

2017: Favorites:
Region 9: StV, Glenville. Hoban gone, as is Benedictine, Lake Catholic.
Region 10: Toledo CC. Who can beat them?
Region 11: DeSales, BW, Hartley. Most competitive Region in State ?
Region 12: Trotwood-Madison - Who can beat them?


R11 the most competitive in the state? Good one


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Old 04-07-17, 02:41 PM
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Lake Catholic and Benedictine are now D2

You should do some research first.
Re read my post: "Hoban is gone AS IS Benedictine and Lake Catholic".

I will not be as rude to you as you were to me.
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Old 04-07-17, 02:49 PM
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Lake Catholic and Benedictine are now D2

You should do some research first.
Reading comprehension is not your thing.
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Old 04-07-17, 02:58 PM
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From just a quick glance:

Region 9 adds - Aurora, Chardon, Kenston, Woodridge, NDCL, West Branch.

Leaving region 9 - Hoban, Lake Catholic, Poland, West G, and Kenmore.

I think Glenville will end up in region 10, which was where Benedictine was.

Maple Hts either region 9 or 10.
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Old 04-07-17, 03:04 PM
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From just a quick glance:

Region 9 adds - Aurora, Chardon, Kenston, Woodridge, NDCL, West Branch.

Leaving region 9 - Hoban, Lake Catholic, Poland, West G, and Kenmore.

I think Glenville will end up in region 10, which was where Benedictine was.

Maple Hts either region 9 or 10.
R10, potential Toledo CC - Glenville showdown.
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Old 04-07-17, 03:18 PM
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Re read my post: "Hoban is gone AS IS Benedictine and Lake Catholic".

I will not be as rude to you as you were to me.
hahahahaha......
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Old 04-07-17, 03:34 PM
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Are you another one that think's D3 was better than D2. D3 is the 3rd biggest meat grinder. Just because there are a few great private schools, that doesn't mean the entire division is a grind.

The 32 D2 playoff teams were 15-3 last year against D3 playoff teams.

Desales beating D2 Edgewood was the only quality win a D3 playoff team had against a D2 playoff team.
Respect your opinion, but you are wrong.

I found 11 instances of D2 beating a eventual D3 playoff team, but only one significant win.

Troy over Trotwood in week 1 by 4 points.

Next tier would be Franklin Heights over Eastmoor week 1
Perry over New Philly i guess

In D3 DeSales and Franklin D3 beat Edgewood

Akron East beat Ellet and Eastmoor beat West so that's 4 so your numbers are off somewhere.

Lets look at scores :

D2 Massillion beat D3 Beechcroft by 22 / DeSales beat them by 24

D2 Licking Heights beat Hamilton TWSH by 21 / DeSales called off the dogs up 43

Massillion D2 Beat AVSM by 9 D3 Hoban beat them +24 and +10

Troy beat Trotwood by 4 Hoban train wrecked them by 30

Drew Pastuer does Power Rankings and point spreads Cough cough on his site.
Go back and review his Power Rankings from last year for D2 and D3 Final Four Teams.

I would have Liked DeSales Chances in D2 a whole lot better than D3
Using like Schedules LaSalle D2 State Champ and both teams they had in common with DeSales check those scores.
Plus history shows DeSales has played LaSalle more than even throughout the years.
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Old 04-07-17, 03:49 PM
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Plus history shows DeSales has played LaSalle more than even throughout the years.

LS history before 2015 was that they had never won a playoff game
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Old 04-07-17, 04:29 PM
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Region 9 Akron SVSM
Region 10 Toledo Central Catholic or Glenville
Region 11 Tri valley, Desales, or Hartley
Region 12 Trotwood vs Kettering Alter

Akron SVSM state champs
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Old 04-07-17, 04:46 PM
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Region 9 Akron SVSM
Region 10 Toledo Central Catholic or Glenville
Region 11 Tri valley, Desales, or Hartley
Region 12 Trotwood vs Kettering Alter

Akron SVSM state champs
I like it!
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Old 04-07-17, 05:09 PM
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Tri Valley v Akron StVM week 1.
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Old 04-07-17, 05:48 PM
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Region 9 Akron SVSM
Region 10 Toledo Central Catholic or Glenville
Region 11 Tri valley, Desales, or Hartley
Region 12 Trotwood vs Kettering Alter

Akron SVSM state champs
There's a pretty good chance Akron has two state champs next year in Hoban and St V.
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Old 04-09-17, 03:32 PM
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Region 9 Akron SVSM
Region 10 Toledo Central Catholic or Glenville
Region 11 Tri valley, Desales, or Hartley
Region 12 Trotwood vs Kettering Alter

Akron SVSM state champs
I wouldn't forget about Aurora who will be aiming for their 14th consecutive playoff appearance including 4 regional championships and a State title.
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Old 04-09-17, 04:53 PM
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Region 9 Akron SVSM
Region 10 Toledo Central Catholic or Glenville
Region 11 Tri valley, Desales, or Hartley
Region 12 Trotwood vs Kettering Alter

Akron SVSM state champs
With any of these scenarios (and I, too would put Aurora in the mix) it will make for an extremely entertaining Final 4! Whoever is left standing will have certainly earned it!
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Old 04-10-17, 07:10 AM
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Respect your opinion, but you are wrong.

I found 11 instances of D2 beating a eventual D3 playoff team, but only one significant win.

Troy over Trotwood in week 1 by 4 points.

Next tier would be Franklin Heights over Eastmoor week 1
Perry over New Philly i guess

In D3 DeSales and Franklin D3 beat Edgewood

Akron East beat Ellet and Eastmoor beat West so that's 4 so your numbers are off somewhere.

Lets look at scores :

D2 Massillion beat D3 Beechcroft by 22 / DeSales beat them by 24

D2 Licking Heights beat Hamilton TWSH by 21 / DeSales called off the dogs up 43

Massillion D2 Beat AVSM by 9 D3 Hoban beat them +24 and +10

Troy beat Trotwood by 4 Hoban train wrecked them by 30

Drew Pastuer does Power Rankings and point spreads Cough cough on his site.
Go back and review his Power Rankings from last year for D2 and D3 Final Four Teams.

I would have Liked DeSales Chances in D2 a whole lot better than D3
Using like Schedules LaSalle D2 State Champ and both teams they had in common with DeSales check those scores.
Plus history shows DeSales has played LaSalle more than even throughout the years.
I don't know how I'm wrong when I was going by playoff team vs playoff team. When D2 is 15-3 or 4 like you said how can you say D3 was better. Rankings are a joke and always will be. When Coldwater beat Mooney in 08Mooney was ranked very high in the state and I believe national. Now Marion Local beat Coldwater 35 -14 that year. Again just because D3 had a couple of good teams doesn't mean D3 as a hole is better than D2.

By they way you have Desales with a better chance of beating LaSalle than winning D3. Didn't LaSalle beat the D1 champ, along with Moeller and Elder. You can't compare scores. I don't go by scores or rankings. I just go by W's isn't that what counts.
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Old 04-10-17, 04:52 PM
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Respect your opinion, but you are wrong.

I found 11 instances of D2 beating a eventual D3 playoff team, but only one significant win.

Troy over Trotwood in week 1 by 4 points.

Next tier would be Franklin Heights over Eastmoor week 1
Perry over New Philly i guess

In D3 DeSales and Franklin D3 beat Edgewood

Akron East beat Ellet and Eastmoor beat West so that's 4 so your numbers are off somewhere.

Lets look at scores :

D2 Massillion beat D3 Beechcroft by 22 / DeSales beat them by 24

D2 Licking Heights beat Hamilton TWSH by 21 / DeSales called off the dogs up 43

Massillion D2 Beat AVSM by 9 D3 Hoban beat them +24 and +10

Troy beat Trotwood by 4 Hoban train wrecked them by 30

Drew Pastuer does Power Rankings and point spreads Cough cough on his site.
Go back and review his Power Rankings from last year for D2 and D3 Final Four Teams.

I would have Liked DeSales Chances in D2 a whole lot better than D3
Using like Schedules LaSalle D2 State Champ and both teams they had in common with DeSales check those scores.
Plus history shows DeSales has played LaSalle more than even throughout the years.
Uh, yeah but my Daddy can whup your Daddy.Comparing scores is shall we say,not relevant in any way.Football is a game of matchups.Matchups vary from team to team.
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Old 04-10-17, 06:29 PM
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I wouldn't forget about Aurora who will be aiming for their 14th consecutive playoff appearance including 4 regional championships and a State title.
They will be in the same region as one of Ohio's big time programs. Region 9 will always go through Akron. D3 seems to be a lot better than D2
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Old 04-11-17, 03:31 PM
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Thank me for admitting their mediocrity? Ok. And the only team you mentioned that affects DeSales in terms of getting into the playoffs is Hartley. Trotwood and Alter would be in a different region so one would eliminate the other, and the only way you face Glenville would be in the state final. Last I checked they have yet to win a title in any division.


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I wasn't saying those teams would influence DeSales in making the playoffs, I was just saying let's not count on anyone being in the finals because from the looks of D3 it's going to be a B$$$$ just to make it out of the first round. Relax.
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Old 04-11-17, 09:13 PM
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DeSales will be very very good this year.. but they haven't been able to get the job done for years. 07,08,09,10,11,14,15, and 16 theyhad the talent to win it all and didn't get the job done. That Just shows how tough it is to win a state title in Ohio

They will be very good again and they have an extremely tough schedule.

Asamoah and Van Fossen will lead the charge, but the difference to the season will be the production of the offensive line. If the O-Line can find some size and cohesion, this team could be in position to win a state title.

The real question will be whether or not they can fill the two empty weeks, because last time I checked the schedules thread they have 2 open weeks.

Also did anybody forget about Toledo Central Catholic or Trotwood Madison? Cause they're both gonna be pretty darn good this year
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Respect your opinion, but you are wrong.

I found 11 instances of D2 beating a eventual D3 playoff team, but only one significant win.

Troy over Trotwood in week 1 by 4 points.

Next tier would be Franklin Heights over Eastmoor week 1
Perry over New Philly i guess

In D3 DeSales and Franklin D3 beat Edgewood

Akron East beat Ellet and Eastmoor beat West so that's 4 so your numbers are off somewhere.

Lets look at scores :

D2 Massillion beat D3 Beechcroft by 22 / DeSales beat them by 24

D2 Licking Heights beat Hamilton TWSH by 21 / DeSales called off the dogs up 43

Massillion D2 Beat AVSM by 9 D3 Hoban beat them +24 and +10

Troy beat Trotwood by 4 Hoban train wrecked them by 30

Drew Pastuer does Power Rankings and point spreads Cough cough on his site.
Go back and review his Power Rankings from last year for D2 and D3 Final Four Teams.

I would have Liked DeSales Chances in D2 a whole lot better than D3
Using like Schedules LaSalle D2 State Champ and both teams they had in common with DeSales check those scores.
Plus history shows DeSales has played LaSalle more than even throughout the years.

Troy will not beat Trotwood this year.... the will go 10-0 regular season and play in the title game
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Old 04-14-17, 09:24 AM
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I don't know how I'm wrong when I was going by playoff team vs playoff team. When D2 is 15-3 or 4 like you said how can you say D3 was better. Rankings are a joke and always will be. When Coldwater beat Mooney in 08Mooney was ranked very high in the state and I believe national. Now Marion Local beat Coldwater 35 -14 that year. Again just because D3 had a couple of good teams doesn't mean D3 as a hole is better than D2.

By they way you have Desales with a better chance of beating LaSalle than winning D3. Didn't LaSalle beat the D1 champ, along with Moeller and Elder. You can't compare scores. I don't go by scores or rankings. I just go by W's isn't that what counts.
Your in the minority on this one.
You weren't around here for last years playoff talk and threads.
D3 has been the closest Division at the Top to D1 many years.
I'll take their Champ heads up every year versus any Division .
D1 would probably beat them 75-80% of the time but over a 10 year matchup D3 would beat any other Division on Average.
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Old 04-14-17, 09:26 AM
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DeSales will be very very good this year.. but they haven't been able to get the job done for years. 07,08,09,10,11,14,15, and 16 theyhad the talent to win it all and didn't get the job done. That Just shows how tough it is to win a state title in Ohio

They will be very good again and they have an extremely tough schedule.

Asamoah and Van Fossen will lead the charge, but the difference to the season will be the production of the offensive line. If the O-Line can find some size and cohesion, this team could be in position to win a state title.

The real question will be whether or not they can fill the two empty weeks, because last time I checked the schedules thread they have 2 open weeks.

Also did anybody forget about Toledo Central Catholic or Trotwood Madison? Cause they're both gonna be pretty darn good this year
Stallions have a week 1 game I believe. read somewhere they are playing in some kind of Kickoff classic. Not sure if opponent has been named. Probably from out of State.
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