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View Poll Results: Which of these most closely describes your religious practice currently
Mainline Protestant regular church-goer (Episc., Mehthodist, etc.) 5 7.94%
Mainline Protestant by background, infrequent church-goer 9 14.29%
Evangelical regular church-goer 3 4.76%
Evangelical by background, infrequent church-goer 2 3.17%
Catholic regular church-goer 22 34.92%
Catholic by background, infrequent church-goer 15 23.81%
Jewish 2 3.17%
Muslim 3 4.76%
Other Religion 2 3.17%
Agnostic (who knows?) 13 20.63%
Atheist (there is no God/Supreme being) 3 4.76%
Other 4 6.35%
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Old 03-15-17, 03:10 PM
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How is it a straw man? I'm positive there are many people who identify as Christians and Catholics who believe Jesus was just a man.
Lol no there isn't. And you know it.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:15 PM
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No backpedal here. I stand by my comments that believing Moses lived to be 900 years old and that Jesus turned into a zombie is complete idiocy.
Then you think anyone who believes in Jesus is an idiot. Don't give me that "Well, they may be Christians and think Jesus was just a man" line either. You went to Catholic school, you know better than that.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:17 PM
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Amazing to me all these Elder hypocrites that now denounce Catholicism, some while having Elder as their avatar. Pretty high on the hypocrisy scale.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:19 PM
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Lol no there isn't. And you know it.
Of course it isn't stupid, it's common sense that many Catholics likely have doubt in the resurrection story....most rationally thinking people do.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:25 PM
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Amazing to me all these Elder hypocrites that now denounce Catholicism, some while having Elder as their avatar. Pretty high on the hypocrisy scale.
You can support your alma mater (especially if you have family that participate in athletics there) without believing the same things as them
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Old 03-15-17, 03:28 PM
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Of course it isn't stupid, it's common sense that many Catholics likely have doubt in the resurrection story....most rationally thinking people do.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_cs...m/p1s2c2a2.htm

Again, just stop. There are no practicing Catholics that think Jesus Vhrist didn't die and was resurrected. The Stations of the Cross bear witness to that.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:30 PM
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Amazing to me all these Elder hypocrites that now denounce Catholicism, some while having Elder as their avatar. Pretty high on the hypocrisy scale.
I didn't denounce Catholicism, I think overall it provides a good message and I don't feel one needs to take miracle stories literally to get value from it.
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How so? How exactly does living a Christian life cost me anything? What am I losing?
Sex with different women is pretty fun.
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Of course it isn't stupid, it's common sense that many Catholics likely have doubt in the resurrection story....most rationally thinking people do.


Most polls I have seen say that roughly 2/3 of Americans believe in the resurrection and that Christ is the son of God. About 90% of Americans believe in God.

The facts don't really support your claim.
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_cs...m/p1s2c2a2.htm

Again, just stop before you make yourself look even dumber. There are no practicing Catholics that think Jesus Vhrist didn't die and was resurrected. The Stations of the Cross bear witness to that. Now you're just being stupid for the sake of being stupid.
I'm technically catholic (baptized, all the sacraments and everything) and I don't believe he actually rose from the dead. Your assuming no catholic practices the faith without doubt.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:35 PM
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Most polls I have seen say that roughly 2/3 of Americans believe in the resurrection and that Christ is the son of God. About 90% of Americans believe in God.

The facts don't really support your claim.
How does that not support my claim, if 1/3 don't believe in the resurrection? You can certainly believe in a god without believing the resurrection.
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Sex with different women is pretty fun.
Sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies are not.

Seriously, you're going to base all of your life decisions on who you have sex with? Who is wasting their "one life to live"?
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How does that not support my claim, if 1/3 don't believe in the resurrection? You can certainly believe in a god without believing the resurrection.
Because in every math class I have taken, 1/3 is NOT most which was your claim.
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Old 03-15-17, 03:38 PM
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Because in every math class I have taken, 1/3 is NOT most which was your claim.
They represent the rational thinking people.
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Sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies are not.
That's what the morning after pill and penicillin are for.
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I'm technically catholic (baptized, all the sacraments and everything) and I don't believe he actually rose from the dead. You sound like a moron assuming no catholic practices the faith without doubt.
So, if don't mind me asking, do you "practice the faith"?
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They represent the rational thinking people.
LOL. Keep swinging. You can't just admit you misspoke?
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That's what the morning after pill and penicillin are for.
So what you're really saying is I really am not losing out on anything because I am a Christian?

Besides...penicillin won't cure HPV, HIV, herpes, and probably a few others as they have become antibiotic resistant.
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LOL. Keep swinging. You can't just admit you misspoke?
There's nothing rational about suspending reality to believe in the miracles in the Bible.
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So, if don't mind me asking, do you "practice the faith"?
Meaning what exactly?
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I'm technically catholic (baptized, all the sacraments and everything) and I don't believe he actually rose from the dead. You sound like a moron assuming no catholic practices the faith without doubt.
If you profess to be a Catholic and denounce the Resurrection, then you're simply a heretic preaching heresy. To say that because you dcan Jr believe in the Resurrection that makes it ok is just another example of your pride causing you sin. The very basis of Christianity and Catholicism is God sent Hisnonly Son, Christ, who sacrificed Himself on the cross to absorb our sins. Such vanity to say you know more than the Bible, which is the Word of God and clearly says Christ died and was Resurrected.
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So what you're really saying is I really am not losing out on anything because I am a Christian?
Sex with one person your whole life sounds terrible to me. But if that's what you like, more power to you. However, if it's a decision you made strictly because of a belief in christianity, then that is one cost associated with being religious.

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Besides...penicillin won't cure HPV, HIV, herpes, and probably a few others as they have become antibiotic resistant.
HPV has a vaccine that most people have been getting for a while. As for the rest, you can pretty easily manage to have casual sex and not contract those.

I'm also not sure HIV was ever treated with antibiotics.
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How does that not support my claim, if 1/3 don't believe in the resurrection? You can certainly believe in a god without believing the resurrection.
Because, it says 2/3 of Americans. Not 2/3 of Christians. Any actual practicing Catholic or Christian you tell "Jesus was simply a man and wasn't resurrected by God" will tell you you're not only wrong, but a blasphemous heretic.
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Who cares who has sex with whom as long as they're not harming you
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Who cares who has sex with whom as long as they're not harming you
To be clear, men having sex with each other is gross. Man-woman is okay if I'm participating. Woman-woman is okay all the time.
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Because, it says 2/3 of Americans. Not 2/3 of Christians. Any actual practicing Catholic or Christian you tell "Jesus was simply a man and wasn't resurrected by God" will tell you you're not only wrong, but a blasphemous heretic.
So we don't know how many Catholics actually believe in the resurrection story? Thanks.
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There's nothing rational about suspending reality to believe in the miracles in the Bible.
There isn't anything rational about thinking 1/3 is "most".

If that is what you want to believe or how you feel, then ok. But really you're not a Catholic then because the resurrection is a core belief of Catholicism is it not? You were raised that way but you're not one now. Basically you might have a pretty good moral compass (I don't know you personally but you said the Catholic message is good) but you're not a practicing Catholic.
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There's nothing rational about suspending reality to believe in the miracles in the Bible.
Then you clearly don't believe in God. What a hypocrite and a perfect example of someone who gives Christians and Catholics a bad name. You have Elder Catholic High School as your avatar and tell everyone God doesn't exist. People like you are EXACTLY why some people think all Christians and Catholics are hypocrites.
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So if it's not cool to make fun of or look down upon someone because of religion, does that count for Islam Scientology and Mormonism?

I'm sure every catholic or any person who follows an organized religion has had their doubts at some point. I believe Jesus even had doubts
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So we don't know how many Catholics actually believe in the resurrection story? Thanks.
I know. All of them. If they don't, then they clearly aren't Catholics. The entire religion is based on Christ and His sacrifice.
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