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Old 04-03-17, 02:14 PM
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That's fine, just the institution should have had something ready to go once the decision was made, in this day and age news even at this level is a on a 24 hour cycle. I think that they need a Minister of Propaganda over there to keep control of the flow of information, that's all.

With that being said I think this is a good move. Many times I feel like the Monks don't look forward enough and stifle some of the better new ideas because they don't fit into their narrow definition of the school. Unlike some here I think the '78 guys are a valuable asset to the institution and I hope their voices get stronger. They are highly successful men with good ideas and have well placed energy, not curmudgeons waxing about the good old days.
Benedictine Management is playing it close to the belt with all of the changes happening at the school. I think it's the right thing to do. Letting staff, students, alumni & then the outside world know of the changes makes sense.
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Old 04-04-17, 08:30 PM
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Sal was dumped by Lake Catholic
Bennies did, unfortunately
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Old 04-05-17, 05:57 PM
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Benedictine Management is playing it close to the belt with all of the changes happening at the school. I think it's the right thing to do. Letting staff, students, alumni & then the outside world know of the changes makes sense.
This sounds like the plan. I received a letter from the school about Fr. Gerard's retirement and Bossu's promotion last week.
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Old 04-06-17, 11:01 AM
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Looks like Div II for football in 2017.
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Old 04-06-17, 12:39 PM
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Looks like Div II for football in 2017.
It's not like we were going to be a factor in DIII the next couple of years anyway.
Need to build the program back up, from our gym teacher / head coach down.
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Old 04-06-17, 12:55 PM
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It's not like we were going to be a factor in DIII the next couple of years anyway.
Need to build the program back up, from our gym teacher / head coach down.
Things change quickly in HS football so hopefully the tide will turn sooner rather than later.

So while on the surface a move up to Div II is not a big deal but when you look at the enrollment gap between Benny and some schools in the Division there are challenges. Benny sitting at an actual enrollment of 264 grades 9-11 looks puny when compared to probable Regional foes like Hudson at 581 or Wadsworth at 574. Get the athletes in those numbers to play football and then all of a sudden there is greater depth for when there are injuries, fewer kids playing both ways, and you have a better chance of finding specialists in the kicking game. No complaints, it is what it is but playing schools more than double your size in the playoffs puts Benny in probably toughest spot in the state with regards to competitive balance.
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Old 04-06-17, 03:18 PM
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You don't know this topic that well. True, the CSJ order is very liberal, but they don't participate in the day to day delivery of theological instruction. Generally, my experience with SJA (as well as Mag's) is that they teach a very bland version of "love your neighbor". Catholic-focused doctrine isn't pushed too hard.

As for the Jesuits...I appreciate the general stereotype about Jesuits, but the midwestern Jesuits are pretty conservative and I doubt any Catholic high school in NEO is teaching more straight up Catholic doctrine than Ignatius.

As for Auggie's thoughts about Benny learning from SJA...in the city yes, but SJA resides in a solidly middle class neighborhood with lots of users within a mile of the school. Benny will be challenged to duplicate that.
I've been on vacation from here for a while.....but then I read this and had to step in. The Jesuits are nowhere close to teaching "Straight up Catholic Doctrine." In fact, they're forcing two teachers out who happen to agree with the Church's view on marriage.

I don't want this thread to get political, but the best Catholic doctrine in Cleveland is at 2900 MLK, specifically in Fr. Bede's Latin class. Just ask the Ignatius and Benedictine servers that serve 7AM mass with Fr. Bede at St. Stephen's on W 47th. No Jesuits will be found touching that Mass with a 10 foot stick.
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Old 04-06-17, 04:29 PM
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Things change quickly in HS football so hopefully the tide will turn sooner rather than later.

So while on the surface a move up to Div II is not a big deal but when you look at the enrollment gap between Benny and some schools in the Division there are challenges. Benny sitting at an actual enrollment of 264 grades 9-11 looks puny when compared to probable Regional foes like Hudson at 581 or Wadsworth at 574. Get the athletes in those numbers to play football and then all of a sudden there is greater depth for when there are injuries, fewer kids playing both ways, and you have a better chance of finding specialists in the kicking game. No complaints, it is what it is but playing schools more than double your size in the playoffs puts Benny in probably toughest spot in the state with regards to competitive balance.
Uh, could it be Benny played by the rules and turned in real numbers, and their fellow private school brethren sorta uh cooked the so called books?
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Old 04-06-17, 05:06 PM
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It's not like we were going to be a factor in DIII the next couple of years anyway.
Need to build the program back up, from our gym teacher / head coach down.
Ora, I think it's time to back off the Head Coach a little bit and wait to see what happens this year. The writing was on the wall last year. No real running back, a QB with basically no experience at the position, a make shift D-Line, & an all new defensive secondary & linebackers. Breaks didn't go Benedictine's way, not 1 time, all year. A catch here, a interception there and the 2016 Bengals were at least 6-4 and in the playoffs. This year it's a fresh start for the entire squad & coaching staff. New D-Coordinator Jamal Brown will turn things up a bit. He is what you have been asking for, a Benedictine Grad. The other staff members come from good programs. Supposedly? There is a wild card Benedictine grad going to be hired to the staff??? There are 45 incoming freshman as of right now, it could be 50-55. There is a Stud QB on this freshman team. Things are looking up. So with that said. Take a breath and let's see what happens in 2017.
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Old 04-06-17, 05:13 PM
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Things change quickly in HS football so hopefully the tide will turn sooner rather than later.

So while on the surface a move up to Div II is not a big deal but when you look at the enrollment gap between Benny and some schools in the Division there are challenges. Benny sitting at an actual enrollment of 264 grades 9-11 looks puny when compared to probable Regional foes like Hudson at 581 or Wadsworth at 574. Get the athletes in those numbers to play football and then all of a sudden there is greater depth for when there are injuries, fewer kids playing both ways, and you have a better chance of finding specialists in the kicking game. No complaints, it is what it is but playing schools more than double your size in the playoffs puts Benny in probably toughest spot in the state with regards to competitive balance.
Competing with the likes of Wadsworth & Hudson is an intriguing match up to me. To play those teams Benedictine would have to make the playoffs obviously. The type of schedule that the team has played recently would help the team be prepared for these types of teams in a playoff game I think. Moving deeper into the playoffs is where I think the trouble could be. There are some perennial powers that year in and year out are always competing for a state title.
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Old 04-07-17, 08:46 AM
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It's not like we were going to be a factor in DIII the next couple of years anyway.
Need to build the program back up, from our gym teacher / head coach down.
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Old 04-07-17, 12:34 PM
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Ora, I think it's time to back off the Head Coach a little bit and wait to see what happens this year. The writing was on the wall last year. No real running back, a QB with basically no experience at the position, a make shift D-Line, & an all new defensive secondary & linebackers. Breaks didn't go Benedictine's way, not 1 time, all year. A catch here, a interception there and the 2016 Bengals were at least 6-4 and in the playoffs. This year it's a fresh start for the entire squad & coaching staff. New D-Coordinator Jamal Brown will turn things up a bit. He is what you have been asking for, a Benedictine Grad. The other staff members come from good programs. Supposedly? There is a wild card Benedictine grad going to be hired to the staff??? There are 45 incoming freshman as of right now, it could be 50-55. There is a Stud QB on this freshman team. Things are looking up. So with that said. Take a breath and let's see what happens in 2017.
Findy, I always chuckle at your PC, glass is half full rather than half empty posts. The fact of the matter is, there are very few athletes playing football down on MLK. Yes we have been spoiled over the last 4-5 years with some great players, but now, the cupboard is sparsely stocked with athletes. Of the 45-55 players, who signed a sheet at a open house, saying that they were going to play football, how many can truly play. I know as the head coach of SFD, you have steered many a player to MLK. CYO football is almost dead. We need to attract PLAYERS not just BODIES from elsewhere. But from where, that's the question.
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Old 04-07-17, 12:39 PM
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Uh, could it be Benny played by the rules and turned in real numbers, and their fellow private school brethren sorta uh cooked the so called books?
So thats all your left with now.?
Solid argument . Got everything you need to prove your point. Only missing
the Facts. LOl
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Old 04-07-17, 12:42 PM
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Was Benedictine going to be a factor in football next year, if they had stayed in DIII - NO

Does Benedictine need to rebuild its football program - YES

Is the Benedictine football head coach the P.E. teacher at the school - YES

So, I guess you can call those 3 statements, troll-truths.
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Old 04-07-17, 12:44 PM
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Uh, could it be Benny played by the rules and turned in real numbers, and their fellow private school brethren sorta uh cooked the so called books?
no
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Old 04-07-17, 12:48 PM
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Benedictine Management is playing it close to the belt with all of the changes happening at the school. I think it's the right thing to do. Letting staff, students, alumni & then the outside world know of the changes makes sense.
In theory, yes, but the announcement of the new president was posted on twitter the night before is was announced to the school. News today cannot, does not, wait 24 hours for a formal announcement.
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Old 04-07-17, 01:20 PM
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Was there a leadership problem that they felt the need to replace Fr Gerard Gonda?
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Old 04-10-17, 04:41 PM
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Findy, I always chuckle at your PC, glass is half full rather than half empty posts. The fact of the matter is, there are very few athletes playing football down on MLK. Yes we have been spoiled over the last 4-5 years with some great players, but now, the cupboard is sparsely stocked with athletes. Of the 45-55 players, who signed a sheet at a open house, saying that they were going to play football, how many can truly play. I know as the head coach of SFD, you have steered many a player to MLK. CYO football is almost dead. We need to attract PLAYERS not just BODIES from elsewhere. But from where, that's the question.
Ora, I am the HC at St Albert's in North Royalton since last year. I have helped with getting solid athletes into this years freshman class. There are at least 20 good football players and the other 25 can play. There is a kicker coming in who can consistently make 35 yarders. The QB is a stud, several good RB's, 4 good receivers, & some good Lineman. The freshman class will be competitive. There are good players on this years squad. If the team plays hard & the breaks go the right way, they can win some ball games and make the playoffs. It's better to be positive then negative on this sports blog site. You never know who's reading these posts?? Maybe there are some potential future Bengals reading our jibber jabber. We wouldn't want to scare them away would we? LOL
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Old 04-10-17, 06:58 PM
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Is the above post serious?
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Old 04-11-17, 12:40 AM
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Is the above post serious?
Why wouldn't it be? What's wrong about it?
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Old 04-11-17, 11:28 AM
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Ora, I am the HC at St Albert's in North Royalton since last year. I have helped with getting solid athletes into this years freshman class. There are at least 20 good football players and the other 25 can play. There is a kicker coming in who can consistently make 35 yarders. The QB is a stud, several good RB's, 4 good receivers, & some good Lineman. The freshman class will be competitive. There are good players on this years squad. If the team plays hard & the breaks go the right way, they can win some ball games and make the playoffs. It's better to be positive then negative on this sports blog site. You never know who's reading these posts?? Maybe there are some potential future Bengals reading our jibber jabber. We wouldn't want to scare them away would we? LOL
I said it previously and I'll say it again this team won't be sub .500 this upcoming season. And as I said before I am by no means predicting state championship but 3-7 and 4-6 is not happening.

There are some nice additions coming in the Freshman class. There are a few kids on this team who are really going to blow some people away. Findy is right the QB is going to be a good one. Couple of the RBs will be special. And the kicker is the real deal. There are several others who are good. There are many who can play and are not just warm bodies.

One other item is remember the name Charles Rosser. The kid transferred in last season as a freshman and only played half the season. He was raw and my understanding was he didn't see the weight room much before coming to Benedictine. Now with coaching and training and just growing he is going to be special. Just remember his name. There are other solid players on that freshman team last year as well. It gets a bad rap. The 2021 class is going to be better no doubt but there are some players in that 2020 class.

Two kids that I think are going to step up and 'surprise' some people next season are Eric Cross and Matthias Chmielewski. This doesn't mean there aren't other kids who are going to do well or better but I think these two will exceed expectations next season.

The future is bright in terms of potential. Let me be clear, these kids and coaches have to work and make it happen because potential is nice but it doesn't mean anything if they don't execute. But make no mistake there is talent coming to the school next year and as Findy said there is talent in the halls of the school right now too. The cupboard is not bare. If Benedictine can keep getting a good incoming class of kids the next couple of years like they did with this incoming class watch out.
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Old 04-12-17, 02:12 PM
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I can see how you could be confused. The first part of my post was about the freshman team. The second part of my post was about the varsity team. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 04-13-17, 10:11 AM
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It's official, Jahmal Brown has named to the Benedictine football coaching staff.
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Was Benedictine going to be a factor in football next year, if they had stayed in DIII - NO

Does Benedictine need to rebuild its football program - YES

Is the Benedictine football head coach the P.E. teacher at the school - YES

So, I guess you can call those 3 statements, troll-truths.
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Old 04-14-17, 09:22 AM
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Was Benedictine going to be a factor in football next year, if they had stayed in DIII - NO

Does Benedictine need to rebuild its football program - YES

Is the Benedictine football head coach the P.E. teacher at the school - YES

So, I guess you can call those 3 statements, troll-truths.
I prefer John 8:32 "and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free".
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Old 04-20-17, 08:42 AM
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Was Benedictine going to be a factor in football next year, if they had stayed in DIII - NO

Does Benedictine need to rebuild its football program - YES

Is the Benedictine football head coach the P.E. teacher at the school - YES

So, I guess you can call those 3 statements, troll-truths.
I prefer "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go".
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Looks like the Yappi posters have been drinking the Welo Kool-Aid. In the early pre-season poll, they have Benedictine ranked #5. LMAO at that one. Benedictine will not make the top 8 in the region that they are assigned, they won't even make the top 16.

Findy, I hope your are right about in incoming freshman talent.

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