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View Poll Results: What state has the Best High School Football?
Ohio 77 78.57%
Florida 3 3.06%
Calafornia 2 2.04%
Texas 16 16.33%
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Old 02-07-07, 11:44 AM
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What state has the Best High School Football?

What state has the Best High School Football?
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Old 02-07-07, 11:46 AM
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I say Ohio because Massillon and Mckinley are known nationwaide and also we have great teams down south ohio and also nobody can forgeet about St X. Granit texas, Florida, and Calafornia all have teams that are knowqn nationaly i guess my vote kinda was persauded by the history of Massillon Mck
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Old 02-07-07, 12:12 PM
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Per Capita Ohio would probably take it.
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Old 02-07-07, 12:46 PM
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I was a homer and chose Ohio although I feel the other states have more talent. I think DLSfan brings up a good point. With Ohio being the smallest (not sure about Florida) of the 4 they still have amazing competition year in and year out.
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Old 02-07-07, 12:47 PM
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and you spelled "California" wrong...

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Old 02-07-07, 02:15 PM
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and you spelt "California" wrong...
also "granted". Granit?????
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Old 02-07-07, 02:27 PM
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and you spelt "California" wrong...
"Spelt?"

Seriously?
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Old 02-07-07, 02:56 PM
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and you spelt "California" wrong...
There were at least seven spelling errors in that post. You only caught California? Then you said "spelt"?
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Old 02-07-07, 09:56 PM
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sorry about the spelling errors. How cool would it be if their was enough funding and time to actually have a national championship tourny for the whole nation the winner of each state playing. I know its imposible but how cool would that be
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Old 02-07-07, 09:59 PM
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Shouldn't Georgia be on this list, ESPN had them higher than ohio in high school football
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Old 02-08-07, 12:42 PM
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Hard question to answer. What are we talking about when we define the best high school football? Are you talking about the top elite teams in a state? Are you talking about the quality from top to bottom? Are you saying you are only as good as lower ranked teams (measured by similiar enrollment)? Are you talking about the product produced for the next level of competition? Are you talking about fan support on an average Friday night at a game featuring a couple of 5-5 teams?

Considering all the above, I would have to say - Texas followed by Ohio, Florida and California. My main reason for downgrading California is my perception (which may be incorrect) of the last question.
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Old 02-08-07, 02:07 PM
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This just in...and in an upset

http://www.usafootball.com/articles/...ball-state.php
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Old 02-08-07, 02:22 PM
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Kansas is in the top 10 and ahead of Florida!!! I think Wharton School of Business just dropped in national ranking with that research. lol
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Old 02-08-07, 02:34 PM
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Kansas is in the top 10 and ahead of Florida!!! I think Wharton School of Business just dropped in national ranking with that research. lol
Hey numbers don't lie
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Old 02-08-07, 04:40 PM
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haha, so I admit using short hand spelt was lazy of myself... but did you guys know 'spelt' is a crop? Anyhow... you guys must be seeing things cause it obviously says 'spelled'...
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Old 02-08-07, 04:42 PM
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There were at least seven spelling errors in that post. You only caught California? Then you said "spelt"?
I was looking at the poll, not the post... you can edit posts, you can edit the polls, I found this out the hard way once...

I actually proposed the national title idea on another thread and they destroyed me about it. Yes, it's a crazy idea that will never come to fruition; however, it would be really cool if they did it...
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Old 02-08-07, 07:07 PM
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We all our bais for our on State in someway , but after the Herbie seeing Lakeland , Texas High , DeLasalle. Cali , TX, OH , FLA all play some damn good ball we could argue a entrie lifetime about this. But I will say after the Big 4 PA has some great teams to. This is getting old. The only major difference is the fans in Texas and Ohio and the love for the game that none of the other the other States cant compete with. Just look at Big cities in Ohio and Texas like Cincinnati and Dallas & Fort Worth Area. In these 2 big towns poeple come out on Friday or Saturday night just like a small town its hard to find that kind of passion elsewhere. Thats just my opinion but I pretty much respect everybody.

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Old 02-08-07, 08:06 PM
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CA: 36,132,147
TX: 22,859,968
FL: 17,789,864
OH: 11,464,042

With that said, it's 'expected' that CA, TX, and FL should have proportionately larger or better 'everything' than Ohio. The question is, do they? CA is not 3x better than Ohio, at any aspect, I feel. So Ohio would be better. Is Florida, at any criteria, 1.5x better? I don't think so. Is Texas 2x as good at top teams, more/better players, dynasties, importance, playoffs, etc? ... 2x, maybe yes, maybe no.

In the end, based on that, I'd have to figure OH/TX are about tied, but in sheer numbers Texas wins because Texas is twice the size. If you were to scale down Texas to Ohio's size in population, Ohio and Texas are on about par.

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I would submit that Ohio has more "dynasties" than Texas. The schools at the top of the heap in Texas change frequently as new schools are created, the neighbor changes, coaching changes, etc... I think that is the nature of a public school system. The names at the top change in Texas, but it is the same names in Ohio.

In terms of players produced Texas turns out probably 3X the Division I players as Ohio. Honestly one of the reasons that occurs is Texas plays NCAA rules in high school. It is easier to project the players in the next level - especially the lineman.
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Old 02-08-07, 10:36 PM
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haha, so I admit using short hand spelt was lazy of myself... but did you guys know 'spelt' is a crop? Anyhow... you guys must be seeing things cause it obviously says 'spelled'...
Spelt makes great pizza crust. Oh, and great bread, too. There's a bakery in Berlin, Ohio that makes spelt bread; The Berlin Natural Bakery. On the subject of great football, some folks might make an argument for Pennsylvania.
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Old 02-08-07, 10:43 PM
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CA: 36,132,147
TX: 22,859,968
FL: 17,789,864
OH: 11,464,042

With that said, it's 'expected' that CA, TX, and FL should have proportionately larger or better 'everything' than Ohio. The question is, do they? CA is not 3x better than Ohio, at any aspect, I feel. So Ohio would be better. Is Florida, at any criteria, 1.5x better? I don't think so. Is Texas 2x as good at top teams, more/better players, dynasties, importance, playoffs, etc? ... 2x, maybe yes, maybe no.

In the end, based on that, I'd have to figure OH/TX are about tied, but in sheer numbers Texas wins because Texas is twice the size. If you were to scale down Texas to Ohio's size in population, Ohio and Texas are on about par.

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I can respect that opinion. However I do not think if you scale TX down, OH/TX would be equal.

TX just takes High school football much more seriously than any other State.

TX 5A is run like a college program.
The head coaches do not teach a class. They focus 100% on football year round. They are hired to win football games period. Lose and you are fired along with your Offensive and Defensive coordinators and possibly your whole staff.
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Old 02-09-07, 08:50 AM
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I'm thinking that Ohio football has to rank right up there with the best of the best
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i believe that you could take a football team made up of ohio, michigan, and penn go around and for the most part have a dominating team over all of the US.
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I'd cast a write in vote for Vermont.
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I can respect that opinion. However I do not think if you scale TX down, OH/TX would be equal.

TX just takes High school football much more seriously than any other State.

TX 5A is run like a college program.
The head coaches do not teach a class. They focus 100% on football year round. They are hired to win football games period. Lose and you are fired along with your Offensive and Defensive coordinators and possibly your whole staff.
High school football is pretty serious here.
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isnt massilllons new facility supposed to rival most d1 facilitys?
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Ohio brings the most passion to the table as well... Only in Ohio and Texas is football truly a "religion"

all of these schools in Ohio have won a national championship-
-Cleveland St. Ignatius
- Massillon
- Cincinnatti Moeller
- Canton McKinley

and Cincinnatti St. Xavier is known nationwide as well...

and no state besides Ohio has a high school football game that shows up on the betting lines in Vegas (Massillon vs. Canton McKinley)
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Old 02-10-07, 11:24 AM
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High school football is pretty serious here.
I believe you, and I am not discrediting Ohio ball one bit.
However, if you look at it objectively on what TX does compared to the other 49 states, I do not think it can be disputed that Ohio is 2nd when it comes to high school football craze.

TX allocates more resources to High school football - And that all comes from the community.

-indoor practice facilities
-state of the art stadiums
-Grass fields are practically obsolete - Everyone has field turf.
-State of the art video equipment for scouting. Win - Win - Win


The reason TX can afford high priced ridiculous stadiums is because of community support.
The reason the High school head coaches make from 65,000 to 110,000 and do not teach a class is because of community support and the absolute demand for a winner. The community pays for the Stadiums as well as coaches salaries.

It's VERY SIMPLE - The Demand for a great high school team is there, so resources (supplies) are spent to ensure that.

When the TX High school playoffs comes around - if your team makes it - it is absolute hysteria in that community.

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Old 02-10-07, 12:52 PM
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Having attended the Herbie to watch Texas High I was surprised by the turnout at Nippert Stadium. At half time of the Texas High/Findlay gave I would estimate there were less than 1500 in the stands (I am being generous) for the later game with Colerain (hometown team), I would be surprised if there were 5,000.

For all the hype, the attendence was pathetic. When Texas High played in the East Texas Classic several weeks earlier, there were probably 10,000 in attendence (granted the schools playing were within 130 miles of the stadium). But then again Findlay was about 155 miles from the stadium and they did not travel.
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Findlay is no where near Cincinatti?
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