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Old 11-19-17, 10:35 AM
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UCLA basketball - The Three

Three of UCLA"s players decided to do a little shop lifting in their free time at three stores near their hotel. They got caught and penalty for shoplifting ten years or more in one of china's finer prisons.
While on his trip overseas president Trump personally asked the President of China for a favor and the three players got sent home. The three with a little prodding by Trump apologized for what they did and thanked President Trump for his help in getting them home.
Now thr Fun part begins: LiAngelo Ball's (one of the three) father opens his mouth and basicily said Trump did nothing and what his son did was not that bad. to quote: "I'm from L.A. I've seen a lot worse than a guy taking some glasses."

All I can say is to LiAngelo: What a jerk you have for a father! This young man was not in L.A.. He was in China when he did his little crime and if it was not for Trump and the US Govt. coming to his aid there is a good chance he could have spent the next ten or more years in China as a guest of the Chinese prison system. What is wrong here? I guess the father can not find it in his heart and the lack of a brain to say - Thank You for helping to bring my son home. Maybe Trump should have left it up to the know it all father to get his son released. I'll bet he would have a lot of influence with the President of China.
Guess Trump should have called the father and asked if he wanted his help or not before acting.
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Old 11-19-17, 10:54 AM
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It is tough to believe this happens in the first place but then again Lavar's comments make it easy to understand why?

Handouts and zero consequences coupled with supreme athletic ability make for a nasty combination.

Should have let them get a year in prison before asking to let them go. Make them appreciate things a bit more.
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Old 11-19-17, 11:14 AM
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Remember Michael Fay (Ohio native I believe) that was caned in Singapore for vandalism back in the 90's?

These guys should be very thankful for whatever influence president trump had on the situation. And that they weren't playing in Singapore.
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Old 11-19-17, 12:58 PM
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Good on Trump for not letting Americans get railroaded by a corrupt foreign justice system. Obama essentially has Otto Warmbier's blood on his hands because he didn't do the same.
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Old 11-19-17, 01:21 PM
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The irony is if Trump had left them there for Daddy Ball to attend to, we'd all be hearing about how Trump didn't do anything to try to get them released while he was in China and how he must hate black people.
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Old 11-19-17, 02:01 PM
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Old 11-19-17, 03:35 PM
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Good on Trump for not letting Americans get railroaded by a corrupt foreign justice system.
What a concept, that a government which actually enforces its laws is somehow "corrupt."

Our once great nation is doomed.
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Old 11-19-17, 03:42 PM
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What an embarrassment
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Old 11-19-17, 03:49 PM
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What an embarrassment
I agree. That Ball guy is an embarrassment to his kids.
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Old 11-19-17, 03:55 PM
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What an embarrassment
boo hoo
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Old 11-19-17, 04:31 PM
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What a concept, that a government which actually enforces its laws is somehow "corrupt."
If you think 3 American basketball players would have received a fair trial in a China, or that Otto Warmbier received a fair trial/punishment in North Korea, then okay I guess.

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Our once great nation is doomed.
Is this your new tag line or something? If so, might want to rethink branding yourself as a hyperbolic over reactor.

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Old 11-19-17, 04:41 PM
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Is this your new tag line or something? If so, might want to rethink branding yourself as a hyperbolic over reactor.
Three Americans didn't serve 10 years in a Chinese prison for shoplifting and chs thinks our country is now doomed.
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Old 11-19-17, 05:11 PM
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Three Americans didn't serve 10 years in a Chinese prison for shoplifting and chs thinks our country is now doomed.
Not what he said.
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Old 11-19-17, 05:11 PM
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Old 11-19-17, 05:18 PM
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Old 11-19-17, 05:43 PM
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All I can say is to LiAngelo: What a jerk you have for a father!
You just learning this?

Interesting parallel, he's trying to make his name by being a jerk, kinda like how the guy he called out did it. Maybe LB is running for Pres?

I got in a bit of a mess in China and was treated very fairly. It's not what some might want to make it. BUT the morons put themselves at the mercy, like the moron in NK. I wouldn't have cried tears for them.
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Old 11-19-17, 05:55 PM
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like the moron in NK. I wouldn't have cried tears for them.
You're aware there's zero evidence Warmbier actually tried to steal anything? He "confessed" to it, but he also confessed to being an American spy, so pretty obviously a coerced confession. Also pretty disgusting if you think that deserves the punishment(death) he received.
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Old 11-19-17, 07:38 PM
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Not very Presidential...oh Trump taking on Black athletes ---Yawn... distraction play to the base. Simple playbook
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Old 11-19-17, 08:11 PM
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Good on Trump for not letting Americans get railroaded by a corrupt foreign justice system. Obama essentially has Otto Warmbier's blood on his hands because he didn't do the same.
Not an Obama fan at all, and he should have tried to do more to get Warmbier out of North Korea much earlier, but only Otto Warmbier is to blame for his own tragedy. If he thought it was a great idea to take a tour to North Korea, he wasn't thinking clearly.
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Old 11-19-17, 08:38 PM
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Old 11-19-17, 09:04 PM
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If you think 3 American basketball players would have received a fair trial in a China, or that Otto Warmbier received a fair trial/punishment in North Korea, then okay I guess.
There is no reason to believe they would have not received a fair deal in China. And North Korea has nothing to do with this.
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Old 11-19-17, 09:06 PM
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There is no reason to believe they would have not received a fair deal in China.
They were set to receive 10 years in prison

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Sure it does. You implied the idea of faulting a country for enforcing its laws signaled the end of our country. NK just enforces its laws when it tortures and executes people for minor crimes. Muslim nations are just enforcing their laws when they stone to death adulterous women. Silly to find fault in that right?
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Old 11-19-17, 09:20 PM
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They were set to receive 10 years in prison
No, they were not, and did not.



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Sure it does. You implied the idea of faulting a country for enforcing its laws signaled the end of our country.
I absolutely implied no such thing. Work on your reading comprehension skills.
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Old 11-19-17, 09:27 PM
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No, they were not, and did not.
How long were they facing then? Various sources say 3-10 years. Is there some amount of time in a Chinese prison you find acceptable for shoplifting?

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What a concept, that a government which actually enforces its laws is somehow "corrupt."

Our once great nation is doomed.
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Old 11-19-17, 09:45 PM
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You're aware there's zero evidence Warmbier actually tried to steal anything? He "confessed" to it, but he also confessed to being an American spy, so pretty obviously a coerced confession. Also pretty disgusting if you think that deserves the punishment(death) he received.
No evidence other than the video? Or his friends that stated they put him up to it, something about a grade? How do you know better? Regardless, a sad ending, sorry you lost a friend or some distant connection, whatever he was to you but making up a wish doesn't change the chain of events or the sad outcome. Old news and..

Old debate. It's not about "deserved." It's about what he, and potentially these morons set in motion. One would hope Warmbier made enough news to have given these morons a pause, but apparently not.


Pres Trump didn't likely get a favor, he exchanged one. That's what morons like these three cause to happen.
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Old 11-19-17, 09:51 PM
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No evidence other than the video?
There's zero way to tell if that's him or not in the video.

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sorry you lost a friend or some distant connection, whatever he was to you
I don't think one has to know the person to consider an innocent American being tortured and killed in a North Korean labor camp to be unjust and a tragedy.
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Old 11-19-17, 09:52 PM
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The President's tweets are juvenile. I would like to see him and Papa Ball in a WWE ring settling it...they are like twins from another mother..Throw in an african elephant and sell tickets.
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Old 11-19-17, 10:12 PM
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If they broke the law in a foreign country, they are subject to that countries punishment aren't they? If it's 10 days or 10 years it's their laws, not ours.

President Trump helped them get released at some level. The idiot father, rather than rationalizing his son's crimes, should show some level of gratitude to the president. Trump did what was right and probably knew full well he would get criticized no matter what by Ball's father and liberal sheep like Happy and BJF.
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Old 11-19-17, 10:32 PM
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Not excusing the behavior of the players or the Ball family...but what President sits around and feels the need to tweet that...he is like a needy teenage girl.
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Old 11-19-17, 10:46 PM
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Obviously THIS president.

It's like he plays you guys like a fiddle.
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