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Old 08-03-17, 11:53 PM
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2018 spg vs. Eds

SPG- EDS-
106- Jordan 106- Seefeldt
113- Martin 113- Rini
120- Moore. 120- Richter
126- Crace. 126- Hepner
132- ? 132- Andonian
138-Moore. 138- Kazmir
145- Stickley. 145- Gallahger
152- Thomas/Sanchez. 152- Dover
160- Thomas. 160- Hightower
170- Jordan. 170- ?
182- Craft. 182-?
195- Braun. 195- Howard
220- Schaeffer. 220- ?
HVY- ? HVY- Santillo
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Old 08-04-17, 12:44 AM
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A St. Paris Graham fan already broke this dual down in the Blair Vs. St.Edward thread. It was basically universally understood that as of right now, on paper, St. Paris Graham is quite a bit more accomplished and has a better resume at nearly all the weight classes.

St. Edward lost SEVEN Senior Starters last year. Literally half their lineup. Including two nationally ranked State Champions.

St. Paris Graham lost one Senior. Kaven Sarver, that is it.

Graham is a HEAVY favorite on paper as of right now.

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Old 08-04-17, 09:44 AM
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When and where is the dual?
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Old 08-04-17, 11:19 AM
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The dual is 1/20/18. I don't agree with Curious that SPG is a HEAVY favorite. Favorite yes. Right now I think both the SPG and Blair duals will be within 10 points. Right now. Things will change before those duals happen. Still great to talk wrestling in August.
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Old 08-04-17, 11:53 AM
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My unbiased opinion is Graham wins 12 of the matches
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Old 08-04-17, 11:55 AM
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Unbiased thank God that post wasn't biased. All just talk for right now. On either side. 5 months away a lot will change.
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Old 08-04-17, 03:58 PM
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my unbiased opinion is graham wins 12 of the matches
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Old 08-04-17, 11:55 PM
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17 year old freshmen may decide this battle!
Oh no here we go
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Old 08-05-17, 12:26 AM
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Maybe a rematch between Paddy and J. Thomas of the 2015 jr. high state 108lb. 3rd place match.
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Old 08-05-17, 01:41 PM
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The dual is 1/20/18. I don't agree with Curious that SPG is a HEAVY favorite. Favorite yes. Right now I think both the SPG and Blair duals will be within 10 points. Right now. Things will change before those duals happen. Still great to talk wrestling in August.
I think it will be a lot closer when the actual dual happens. However, in August on paper, it is hard to pick St. Ed's at more than a couple of weights.
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Old 08-05-17, 07:23 PM
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A St. Paris Graham fan already broke this dual down in the Blair Vs. St.Edward thread. It was basically universally understood that as of right now, on paper, St. Paris Graham is quite a bit more accomplished and has a better resume at nearly all the weight classes.

St. Edward lost SEVEN Senior Starters last year. Literally half their lineup. Including two nationally ranked State Champions.

St. Paris Graham lost one Senior. Kaven Sarver, that is it.

Graham is a HEAVY favorite on paper as of right now.
resumes and accomplishments on paper mean nothing when you get on the mat. lets not forget what happened last year.
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Old 08-05-17, 07:29 PM
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SPG- EDS-
106- Jordan 106- Seefeldt
113- Martin 113- Rini
120- Moore. 120- Richter
126- Crace. 126- Hepner
132- ? 132- Andonian
138-Moore. 138- Kazmir
145- Stickley. 145- Gallahger
152- Thomas/Sanchez. 152- Dover
160- Thomas. 160- Hightower
170- Jordan. 170- ?
182- Craft. 182-?
195- Braun. 195- Howard
220- Schaeffer. 220- ?
HVY- ? HVY- Santillo
eds has a good chance of winning
113
120
126
132
152
220
hvy
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Old 08-05-17, 08:54 PM
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Graham / Heavy Favorite: 170, 220
Favorite: 106, 126,138,182
Eds / Heavy Favorite : 132, HVY
Favorite: 152,
Toss ups. : 113,120,145,160,195
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Old 08-05-17, 10:26 PM
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Graham heavy favorite at 126 and 160
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Old 08-05-17, 10:54 PM
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eds has a good chance of winning
113
120
126
132
152
220
hvy
If Crace is at 126 Hepner doesn't have shot.
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Old 08-06-17, 01:12 AM
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Can't wait !
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Old 08-06-17, 01:18 AM
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I think Graham will roll this year.
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Old 08-06-17, 06:30 AM
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If Crace is at 126 Hepner doesn't have shot.
2nd in the state in a tough div 1 and he does'nt have a shot?
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Old 08-06-17, 08:30 AM
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2nd in the state in a tough div 1 and he does'nt have a shot?
I'm surprised Crace isn't 1,2 or 3 in the country. He just beat an Ironman champ 2 or 3 weight classes above 126 a couple weeks ago. No chance

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Old 08-06-17, 08:54 AM
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I'm surprised Crace isn't 1,2 or 3 in the country. He just beat an Ironman champ 2 or 3 weight classes above 126 a couple weeks ago. No chance
did he beat Jaden Maddox or David Carr.
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Old 08-06-17, 08:58 AM
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No matter what he does...poor kid can't get his name spelled correctly.
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Old 08-06-17, 01:54 PM
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did he beat Jaden Maddox or David Carr.
Jaden hasn't won iron man but good try though 👏👏
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Old 08-06-17, 08:52 PM
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did he beat Jaden Maddox or David Carr.
He beat Zach Donathan!
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Old 08-07-17, 08:41 AM
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If Crace is at 126 Hepner doesn't have shot.
WOW... No Shot, really????? Let's see, as a 14 year old freshman and 1st year cadet, I repeat 14 year old freshman, Bryce took 2nd in D1 and lost to a multiple time state placer 2-0. I will guarantee that if he does go 126 it will be a fight. He shines when the lights are brightest and loves a challenge. I know he won't care who SPG sends out, he want's to wrestle the best.
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Old 08-07-17, 09:02 AM
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He beat Zach Donathan!
Please don't shoot the messenger and I'm not making excuses but I was told that Donathon was extremely out of shape and really gassed in that match.
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Old 08-07-17, 09:23 AM
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Old 08-07-17, 09:47 AM
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WOW... No Shot, really????? Let's see, as a 14 year old freshman and 1st year cadet, I repeat 14 year old freshman, Bryce took 2nd in D1 and lost to a multiple time state placer 2-0. I will guarantee that if he does go 126 it will be a fight. He shines when the lights are brightest and loves a challenge. I know he won't care who SPG sends out, he want's to wrestle the best.
Crace will Major him.
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Old 08-07-17, 10:35 AM
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WOW... No Shot, really????? Let's see, as a 14 year old freshman and 1st year cadet, I repeat 14 year old freshman, Bryce took 2nd in D1 and lost to a multiple time state placer 2-0. I will guarantee that if he does go 126 it will be a fight. He shines when the lights are brightest and loves a challenge. I know he won't care who SPG sends out, he want's to wrestle the best.
CHINWHIP chinwhip CHINWHIP chinwhip
I'm so confused
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Old 08-07-17, 10:40 AM
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Old 08-07-17, 11:41 AM
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Please don't shoot the messenger and I'm not making excuses but I was told that Donathon was extremely out of shape and really gassed in that match.
Yes he was but so was Jordan coming off of the Flu! It was a fun match since they've known each other so long! Regardless who Eds or Graham sends out at whatever weight. it's gonna be be a great Dual!
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