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Old 08-09-17, 08:35 PM
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Rumor has McKenna coming to the Bucks. Awaiting an announcement.

Last I heard tOSU, PSU and Lehigh were his short list but haven't heard anything in a month or so. Are you suggesting there's a soon to be announcement in Buckeye land?


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Old 08-10-17, 08:29 PM
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With rumor #3 in the books (Suriano) and rumor #2 still percolating (McKenna), it has come to my attention thru an "unnamed source" that Nate is no longer waiting for the new Olympic weights to be announced. For those following this, you'll recall an interview in which Nate said if the weights stayed as is (57kg being the lowest weight) he would drop back to 125 this coming season to stay close to 57kg (125.4 lbs). If the opening weight were to bump up closer to 133, then he would remain at 133.

I actually have had two "unnamed sources" give me this same scoop, that Nate is no longer waiting and has made up his mind. The second source is pretty high level, high enough that I have now checked the box on rumor #1.

Are you ready for this? Drum roll please.

Nate will drop back to 125 this coming season because it's best for the team, making room in the lineup for Pletcher at 133.


I will update my point spread in a follow-up post, but this is big, folks. And in case you're wondering, I'll go to jail before I reveal my sources.

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Old 08-10-17, 08:44 PM
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To update my points since one of my three rumors has apparently played out (Suriano), a second rumor has been confirmed (at least in my mind), things now look like this:

PSU 127.5 + bonus advantage 11.5 = 139 points

A) OSU with Nate at 125, McKenna at 149 and Micah at 157
144.5 points
B) OSU with Nate at 125, McKenna not at OSU (Ryan, Racer or Burcher R12)
134 points

So, depending on how rumor 2 (McKenna) plays out, OSU has a slight advantage (5.5), or a slight deficit (5). The bottom line is you want to be in the hunt. And I believe OSU is smack in the middle of the hunt.

Obviously, performance will dictate rankings as the season progresses. And shifts in the rankings will make the picture clearer.
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Old 08-10-17, 11:03 PM
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I actually have had two "unnamed sources" give me this same scoop, that Nate is no longer waiting and has made up his mind. The second source is pretty high level, high enough that I have now checked the box on rumor #1.

Are you ready for this? Drum roll please.

Nate will drop back to 125 this coming season because it's best for the team, making room in the lineup for Pletcher at 133.


I will update my point spread in a follow-up post, but this is big, folks. And in case you're wondering, I'll go to jail before I reveal my sources.[/QUOTE]







Thanks for the scoop bdhof, that's great news. Should make for a wild ride at the NCAA's in Cleveland (the land of burning rivers and unattractive women).

And if you do indeed end up in jail for refusing to reveal your sources, let's hope you're not sharing a cell with a former football coach from PSU!



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Old 08-11-17, 01:04 AM
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I'm pretty sure if McKenna chooses OSU, he stays at 141
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Old 08-11-17, 07:30 AM
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I'm pretty sure if McKenna chooses OSU, he stays at 141
I was wondering if there was a chance Hayes winds up at 149 with a year off due to the injury and McKenna comes in at 141 and Micah slides up to 157.
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Old 08-11-17, 09:26 AM
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To update my points since one of my three rumors has apparently played out (Suriano), a second rumor has been confirmed (at least in my mind), things now look like this:

PSU 127.5 + bonus advantage 11.5 = 139 points

A) OSU with Nate at 125, McKenna at 149 and Micah at 157
144.5 points
B) OSU with Nate at 125, McKenna not at OSU (Ryan, Racer or Burcher R12)
134 points

So, depending on how rumor 2 (McKenna) plays out, OSU has a slight advantage (5.5), or a slight deficit (5). The bottom line is you want to be in the hunt. And I believe OSU is smack in the middle of the hunt.

Obviously, performance will dictate rankings as the season progresses. And shifts in the rankings will make the picture clearer.
I have seen elsewhere that Racer is no longer going to tOSU and McKenna would be 149 if he picks tOSU.
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Old 08-11-17, 12:51 PM
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Penn St would have recruited Specer Lee much harder if they knew Suriano was going to flake. This puts them in a huge hole at 125, but they are still the heavy favorites come march. I wonder if any 125ers outside of the Big Ten will make a last minute transfer to start for PSU this year.
Since classes start in a week, it's probably a little late for that, but Ronnie Bresser from Oregon St would have been an interesting name. Only other 125s worth Penn St's time who will be seniors are both national champs and I would guess they are fine where they are at (Tomasello and Cruz).
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Old 08-11-17, 02:40 PM
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I have seen elsewhere that Racer is no longer going to tOSU and McKenna would be 149 if he picks tOSU.
As of two weeks ago Racer still said he was going to Ohio State. Did something change in the last two weeks?

Do you think McKenna is better than Miccah Jordan?
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Old 08-11-17, 04:23 PM
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As of two weeks ago Racer still said he was going to Ohio State. Did something change in the last two weeks?



Do you think McKenna is better than Miccah Jordan?

McKenna is not better
Jordan would bump to fill a weaker weight


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Old 08-11-17, 07:15 PM
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Someone may wanna ask Micah what weight he wants to go before just assigning him a weight.
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Old 08-11-17, 08:19 PM
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I actually have had two "unnamed sources" give me this same scoop, that Nate is no longer waiting and has made up his mind. The second source is pretty high level, high enough that I have now checked the box on rumor #1.

Are you ready for this? Drum roll please.

Nate will drop back to 125 this coming season because it's best for the team, making room in the lineup for Pletcher at 133.


I will update my point spread in a follow-up post, but this is big, folks. And in case you're wondering, I'll go to jail before I reveal my sources.[/QUOTE]









Call me crazy but............

While never one to criticize bdhof (Big Dumpster Heap Of Fakenews) or question his wealth of wrestling acumen (he consistently finishes in the bottom 1/2 of the pick'ems) I'm a bit skeptical about his scoop on Nate dropping to 125 for the season.
If it's a struggle to cut to 125, could he not wrestle 133 most of the season and then drop to 125 for just a couple of duals and then the B10 & NCAA's?

I'm not sure if he's required to wrestle a certain number of duals at 125 during the season, but maybe someone out in yappiville can provide some insight.




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Old 08-12-17, 08:01 AM
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Since classes start in a week, it's probably a little late for that, but Ronnie Bresser from Oregon St would have been an interesting name. Only other 125s worth Penn St's time who will be seniors are both national champs and I would guess they are fine where they are at (Tomasello and Cruz).
Not true at all. Penn St currently does not have a 125er on the roster that will qualify for the NCAA tournament. Even a guy that would win 2 matches at NCAA's would give them a boost.
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Old 08-12-17, 08:33 AM
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Not true at all. Penn St currently does not have a 125er on the roster that will qualify for the NCAA tournament. Even a guy that would win 2 matches at NCAA's would give them a boost.
Ummmm You know they got a transfer from C.Michigan who not only has qualified to the NCAA tournament, but done so twice and also won two matches during one of his trips there. He also wrestled at 125 his Freshmen season. His name escapes me right now bc it is so early and I don't want to look it up. Starts with a K though I think, Keener? idk, i'll look it up later.
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Old 08-12-17, 09:27 AM
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Wrestling125- A couple wins at nationals are only worth a few points, I don't think it makes much of a difference for Penn St

CuriousGeorge- No way Keener makes 25. I'm gonna guess there is a reason he moved to 33.
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Old 08-12-17, 01:52 PM
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Keener 133 and Cortez is jumping to 141
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Old 08-12-17, 06:20 PM
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Not true at all. Penn St currently does not have a 125er on the roster that will qualify for the NCAA tournament. Even a guy that would win 2 matches at NCAA's would give them a boost.
Not worth Penn State's time to spend money + a spot for a guy who scores a point or two at NCAAs. Their team is solid enough with Keener, Cortez, Retherford, Nolf, Cenzo, Marky, Nickal, Cutch, and Nevills to win.
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Old 08-13-17, 10:45 AM
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So could Nate wrestle the year at 133 and then drop to 125 for B10 and NCAA's?

Or are guys required to wrestle a certain number and/or percentage of matches at a weight?



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Old 08-13-17, 10:58 AM
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Their team is solid enough with Keener, Cortez, Retherford, Nolf, Cenzo, Marky, Nickal, Cutch, and Nevills to win.
I'd say that's a pretty formidable line up there.
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Old 08-13-17, 01:49 PM
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So could Nate wrestle the year at 133 and then drop to 125 for B10 and NCAA's? Or are guys required to wrestle a certain number and/or percentage of matches at a weight?
I don't know for sure, but was told that you need to make weight a few times before the B10, and then could wrestle the lower weight at B10s and NCAAs.
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Old 08-14-17, 09:58 PM
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Ohio State's roster has Hayes at 141/149 and Micah at 149/157. I think that's a sign that if McKenna comes, McKenna goes 41 and the other two move up.
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Old 08-14-17, 11:33 PM
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Ohio State's roster has Hayes at 141/149 and Micah at 149/157. I think that's a sign that if McKenna comes, McKenna goes 41 and the other two move up.
What do they have McKennas weight at? Lol
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Old 08-15-17, 06:56 AM
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Ohio State's roster has Hayes at 141/149 and Micah at 149/157. I think that's a sign that if McKenna comes, McKenna goes 41 and the other two move up.
That's an incorrect assumption. Hayes and McKenna will most likely battle it out for the 141# spot or they have a gentlemen's agreement on who goes what weight.
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Old 08-15-17, 08:57 AM
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Ohio State's roster has Hayes at 141/149 and Micah at 149/157. I think that's a sign that if McKenna comes, McKenna goes 41 and the other two move up.
And they have Nate's weight listed at 125.

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Old 08-15-17, 08:59 AM
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FRL (Flo Radio Live) has a segment on McKenna today. I don't do Flo premium, so I can't listen in. Typically they let you listen once it's archived (not sure if that's same day or following day).

Just listened. They didn't do much on McKenna other than most people think tOSU is where he's heading - and can't figure out what's taking him so long. And they said some people think Suraino may end up back at PSU.


And all of this has to be sorted out soon because classes are starting soon.

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Old 08-15-17, 12:00 PM
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I have seen elsewhere that Racer is no longer going to tOSU and McKenna would be 149 if he picks tOSU.
Yeah, he's not on the 2017-18 tOSU roster. Guess it must've fallen thru. Campbell is listed at 165 and Burcher at 157/165. So, depending on where Michah lands (listed 149/157), it could be Micah, Ryan or Burcher at 157.
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Old 08-15-17, 03:43 PM
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Yeah, he's not on the 2017-18 tOSU roster. Guess it must've fallen thru. Campbell is listed at 165 and Burcher at 157/165. So, depending on where Michah lands (listed 149/157), it could be Micah, Ryan or Burcher at 157.
Ryan isn't wrestling this year.
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Old 08-15-17, 03:48 PM
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Ryan isn't wrestling this year.
I've read that before on Yappi, but he's on the 2017-18 roster, so maybe that's not a done deal.
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Old 08-15-17, 06:13 PM
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Ohio State's roster has Hayes at 141/149 and Micah at 149/157. I think that's a sign that if McKenna comes, McKenna goes 41 and the other two move up.
McKenna is the bigger of the two, why wouldn't McKenna go 149#? Either way, someone will be moving up in order to make the team compete with PSU.
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Old 08-19-17, 07:27 AM
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It's been a crazy last couple of days with Suriano reportedly rethinking his transfer after PSU tells him to go if you want, but you'll sit a year (and lose a year of eligibility). And yesterday McKenna confirms that tOSU is his choice, giving tOSU a lineup that looks like this:

125 Tomasello
133 Pletcher
141 Hayes / McKenna
149 McKenna / Hayes
157 Jordan
165 Campbell
174 Jordan
184 Martin
197 Moore
285 Snyder

Folks, that's strong, and will compete for a title. They won't be the favorites, but are nipping at the PSU heels.
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