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Old 07-31-18, 08:38 PM
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... Dillon Walker is officially enrolled at La Salle according to a very reliable source ... Neffineger probably isn't far behind ... sounds like Micah Norwood could be a maybe .... both Walker and Wood will have to sit out second half of season.

In my opinion, not a great move for Jake or Micah ... but we will get to see how it plays out ...
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Old 07-31-18, 08:54 PM
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... Dillon Walker is officially enrolled at La Salle according to a very reliable source ... Neffineger probably isn't far behind ... sounds like Micah Norwood could be a maybe .... both Walker and Wood will have to sit out second half of season.

In my opinion, not a great move for Jake or Micah ... but we will get to see how it plays out ...
For Neffinger could have to set for two years before he starts. Could be tough to deal with LaSalle is loaded in middle weight. But will have good partners and could show case self other places.
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Old 07-31-18, 09:58 PM
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D1: 182
D3: 106, 126, 132, 145, 152, 220

I heard that Norwood to LaSalle is a done deal. I also heard about Walker to LaSalle from a few different people, but I hear it is not official yet (Should/Could be this week).
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Old 08-01-18, 05:39 AM
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For Neffinger could have to set for two years before he starts. Could be tough to deal with LaSalle is loaded in middle weight. But will have good partners and could show case self other places.
If Norwood would have to sit the second half, then Niffenegger would fall right into that spot for the second half and post season. With the new eligibility rules getting a high quality transfer and a high quality incoming freshman both at the same weight is the perfect storm for Lasalle. Then the following years could come down to who progresses the most, which is anybody's guess. But I will say that Niffenegger is a worker and will set the bar pretty high.
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Old 08-01-18, 05:53 AM
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[QUOTE=SCORE2WIN;7076078]If Norwood would have to sit the second half, then Niffenegger would fall right into that spot for the second half and post season. With the new eligibility rules getting a high quality transfer and a high quality incoming freshman both at the same weight is the perfect storm for Lasalle. Then the following years could come down to who progresses the most, which is anybody's guess. But I will say that Niffenegger is a worker and will set the bar pretty high.[/QUOTE

Very True!!
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Old 08-01-18, 06:58 AM
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D1: 182
D3: 106, 126, 132, 145, 152, 220

I heard that Norwood to LaSalle is a done deal. I also heard about Walker to LaSalle from a few different people, but I hear it is not official yet (Should/Could be this week).
nothing with the Norwoods is ever a "done deal"
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Old 08-01-18, 08:13 AM
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If Norwood would have to sit the second half, then Niffenegger would fall right into that spot for the second half and post season. With the new eligibility rules getting a high quality transfer and a high quality incoming freshman both at the same weight is the perfect storm for Lasalle. Then the following years could come down to who progresses the most, which is anybody's guess. But I will say that Niffenegger is a worker and will set the bar pretty high.
Your right Niffenegger would be nice fit for LaSalle if Norwood comes or doesnít come. but I donít think he would finish as high as Norwood would. 138 is very deep weight class in D1.
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Old 08-01-18, 09:17 AM
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I could see the Walker's applying for a hardship waiver though I'm not sure what avenue they'd try to attain. Perhaps change of address or moving from a coed school to a single sex education (qualifies under change of educational program)?

Think sure Niffenegger and the Browns are pretty close to Mark DiSalvo so don't see them making any moves as long as Mark's around. Obviously I don't know the dynamics of the room so things could change. If Legacy starts losing their kids to LaSalle then the Lancers are going to be a lot of fun to watch.

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*I don't believe Norwood would have to sit at all based on the rumor his family made a physical move to Cincy for work.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:08 AM
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Why would Micah Norwood have to sit out at LaSalle. Didn't Micah Norwood wrestle for Lancaster last year ?
If so Lancaster and LaSalle have to be over 50 miles apart. I thought if you move over 50 miles , a transfer is ok ??

Is that not a transfer rule anymore ??
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Old 08-01-18, 10:14 AM
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Why would Micah Norwood have to sit out at LaSalle. Didn't Micah Norwood wrestle for Lancaster last year ?
If so Lancaster and LaSalle have to be over 50 miles apart. I thought if you move over 50 miles , a transfer is ok ??

Is that not a transfer rule anymore ??
I believe the key word is BONA FIDE MOVE as a whole Family!! Not just Dad or Mom! Time will tell!
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Old 08-01-18, 10:24 AM
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I believe the key word is BONA FIDE MOVE as a whole Family!! Not just Dad or Mom! Time will tell!
I don't know his situation, but you are correct, the miles don't matter, it has to be a "bona fide move"

I always wondered what if parents are divorced and only 1 parent "moves". Always wondered how that worked.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:26 AM
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100 Miles

This first issue will focus on exception #1 – Bona Fide Move of Parents from one public school district to a different public
school district.

This exception has been rewritten to simplify and clarify its intent. Here is the exact text of this exception:
If, as a result of a bona fide change of legal residence made by BOTH PARENTS (biological, adoptive or stepparents) from one public
school district into another school district whether from outside the state of Ohio or within Ohio, the student is compelled to transfer
to another high school, the Executive Director’s Office may waive all or part of the 50% period of ineligibility for one or more sport/sport
seasons. The requirement that “both parents” make the move may be waived by the Executive Director’s Office if the marriage of the
parents has been or is in the process of being terminated or if the parents were never married. In addition, the Executive Director’s
Office, in its sole discretion, may extend conditional eligibility for up to 90 days, immediately following the date of the
student’s transfer, in cases where parents are making a bona fide move into a residence that is more than 100 miles from
their former residence,
and there are extenuating circumstances that are presented which prevent one of the parents from
making the move immediately.

The 90-day provision may be extended ONLY in the case of medical or military obligations that prevent one of the parents
from making the move at the same time as the other parent.
If the person(s) making the bona fide move is not the biological or adoptive parent or step-parent of the student, the school
administrator must disclose the custodial relationship, provide the court ordered documents and advise as to the
whereabouts of the student’s biological or adoptive parents
An Affidavit of Bona Fide Legal Residence in the form requested by the Executive Director’s Office must be submitted
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Old 08-01-18, 10:33 AM
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Backbend...

That long sentence:
Quote:
In addition, the Executive Director’s
Office, in its sole discretion, may extend conditional eligibility for up to 90 days, immediately following the date of the
student’s transfer, in cases where parents are making a bona fide move into a residence that is more than 100 miles from
their former residence, and there are extenuating circumstances that are presented which prevent one of the parents from
making the move immediately.
That is talking about if one parent has to move without the other AND the move is over 100 miles then the director could still waive the transfer sit out rule.

The first part of the paragraph explicitly states that if both parents legitimately move (or custodial parent if divorced/never married) legitimately moves, even to the next school district, then they can/will wave the sit out rule.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:37 AM
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100 Miles

This first issue will focus on exception #1 – Bona Fide Move of Parents from one public school district to a different public
school district.

This exception has been rewritten to simplify and clarify its intent. Here is the exact text of this exception:
If, as a result of a bona fide change of legal residence made by BOTH PARENTS (biological, adoptive or stepparents) from one public
school district into another school district whether from outside the state of Ohio or within Ohio, the student is compelled to transfer
to another high school, the Executive Director’s Office may waive all or part of the 50% period of ineligibility for one or more sport/sport
seasons. The requirement that “both parents” make the move may be waived by the Executive Director’s Office if the marriage of the
parents has been or is in the process of being terminated or if the parents were never married. In addition, the Executive Director’s
Office, in its sole discretion, may extend conditional eligibility for up to 90 days, immediately following the date of the
student’s transfer, in cases where parents are making a bona fide move into a residence that is more than 100 miles from
their former residence,
and there are extenuating circumstances that are presented which prevent one of the parents from
making the move immediately.

The 90-day provision may be extended ONLY in the case of medical or military obligations that prevent one of the parents
from making the move at the same time as the other parent.
If the person(s) making the bona fide move is not the biological or adoptive parent or step-parent of the student, the school
administrator must disclose the custodial relationship, provide the court ordered documents and advise as to the
whereabouts of the student’s biological or adoptive parents
An Affidavit of Bona Fide Legal Residence in the form requested by the Executive Director’s Office must be submitted

The way I read that is the 100 miles comes into play that they could possibly not make both parents move at the same time, they may not be able to make the move immediately, for work or whatever.

If you move to a new school district you are eligible to transfer. A bona fide move doesn't have anything to do with miles. It is solely about moving across school lines.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:39 AM
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isnt lasalle private? kids can move into private or out from a private once without effecting eligibility, did the new rule change this?
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Old 08-01-18, 10:42 AM
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The way I read that is the 100 miles comes into play that they could possibly not make both parents move at the same time, they may not be able to make the move immediately, for work or whatever.

If you move to a new school district you are eligible to transfer. A bona fide move doesn't have anything to do with miles. It is solely about moving across school lines.
Yes, and if both parents are still married they both have to move unless there are extenuating circumstances like the move is 100+ miles and one parent can't move because of work. Even then its up to the director to decide.

(not happening) but if my wife and I decide to move tomorrow to the house right behind ours (different school district) my son would be able to wrestle a full season next year with no problems/sit out time.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:43 AM
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isnt lasalle private? kids can move into private or out from a private once without effecting eligibility, did the new rule change this?
I don't know that rule well enough to comment.
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Old 08-01-18, 10:47 AM
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Yes, and if both parents are still married they both have to move unless there are extenuating circumstances like the move is 100+ miles and one parent can't move because of work. Even then its up to the director to decide.

(not happening) but if my wife and I decide to move tomorrow to the house right behind ours (different school district) my son would be able to wrestle a full season next year with no problems/sit out time.
Sounds just like a socialist government this country is turning into. More focus on competitive balance and still have schools that can't afford books.

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Old 08-01-18, 12:05 PM
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And how long will it be before IMG Academy gets involved in wrestling?

lol what possibly could IMG offer that Blair doesnt already offer? IMG couldnt compete with Blair (unless they hire Jeff Buxton or maybe native Floridian Russ Cozart). ....besides Blair offers an xtra dimension, intense higher level of education, 15-18 years ago each student was required to have his own laptop and carry it from class to class.
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Old 08-01-18, 12:40 PM
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lol what possibly could IMG offer that Blair doesnt already offer? IMG couldnt compete with Blair (unless they hire Jeff Buxton or maybe native Floridian Russ Cozart). ....besides Blair offers an xtra dimension, intense higher level of education, 15-18 years ago each student was required to have his own laptop and carry it from class to class.
Warm weather, the correct answer to your question is warm weather lol. I don’t think IMG will get into wrestling but if they did it wouldn’t be half way. They would get themselves an elite coaching staff, practice room partners and facilities.
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Old 08-01-18, 01:02 PM
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Warm weather, the correct answer to your question is warm weather lol. I donít think IMG will get into wrestling but if they did it wouldnít be half way. They would get themselves an elite coaching staff, practice room partners and facilities.
Someone stated it above and they are right, IMG goes after the money making "pro" sports. No real money to be made in wrestling straight out, would need to transition into MMA.

Anyone know if IMG has boxing? If it does then there would be a case for wrestling.
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Old 08-01-18, 01:08 PM
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Backbend...

That long sentence:


That is talking about if one parent has to move without the other AND the move is over 100 miles then the director could still waive the transfer sit out rule.

The first part of the paragraph explicitly states that if both parents legitimately move (or custodial parent if divorced/never married) legitimately moves, even to the next school district, then they can/will wave the sit out rule.
A lot of Legal Paperwork!
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Old 08-01-18, 01:48 PM
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isnt lasalle private? kids can move into private or out from a private once without effecting eligibility, did the new rule change this?
I think it only works one way...if you are at a private school, you are allowed to transfer back to your home/district school only. I don't believe you can transfer to a private without consequences or having to meet one of the exceptions.

I wonder in this case if someone moves 100 miles to a new home, they obviously have moved into a public school district and can attend without condition, but if they decide instead to go to a private is that the same condition? I have no clue if it changes the eligibility...
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Old 08-01-18, 02:23 PM
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lol what possibly could IMG offer that Blair doesnt already offer? IMG couldnt compete with Blair (unless they hire Jeff Buxton or maybe native Floridian Russ Cozart). ....besides Blair offers an xtra dimension, intense higher level of education, 15-18 years ago each student was required to have his own laptop and carry it from class to class.
Actually was with an old college friend who's moved his way up the ranks at IMG with their golf program this past weekend. He's on what they call the marketing side, which is their polite way of labeling recruiting. Due to his position he attends the all sport "marketing meetings". Asked about any possibilities of wrestling being brought in just out of my own interest. Said it was briefly discussed and they didn't believe there was a market for an additional prep school to compete with those already established and unless they could make an immediate impact it'd be tough to build with their location.

Now if they open up a second campus out west???? A wrestling/martial arts/MMA program may be seriously considered.
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Old 08-02-18, 12:12 AM
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D1: 113, 120, 160, 285
D2: 113
D3: 152

I put Walker at LaSalle as I hear it is official.



As I posted on my site, August updates will be on the 2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th, 14th, etc. - I will post changes all day for those dates listed.

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Catholic to Public- if you are at a private school, you are allowed to transfer back to your home/district school one time.

If the entire Norwood family buys a house in Cincinnati and moves to attend LaSalle, then he's good to go. Lancaster to LaSalle is a long move, not sure an AD or Ohio High School could do much with that. That type of move and making a H.S. kid sit would be open for a law suit.
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lol what possibly could IMG offer that Blair doesnt already offer? IMG couldnt compete with Blair (unless they hire Jeff Buxton or maybe native Floridian Russ Cozart). ....besides Blair offers an xtra dimension, intense higher level of education, 15-18 years ago each student was required to have his own laptop and carry it from class to class.

I don't recall saying that they could compete with Blair, though it didn't take IMG long to establish a competitive football program.

bdhof made a good point that IMG seems to cater to the sports with professional money potential such as tennis, golf, football, basketball, baseball, soccer.

I'll stick with bdhof (which pains me) as having made a valid argument.
On the other hand, not all parents of great athletes value an "intense higher level of education". Were that the case, none of us would've ever heard of IMG Academy. I'm not saying those parents are right or wrong, just stating a fact.

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I don't recall saying that they could compete with Blair, though it didn't take IMG long to establish a competitive football program.

bdhof made a good point that IMG seems to cater to the sports with professional money potential such as tennis, golf, football, basketball, baseball, soccer.

I'll stick with bdhof (which pains me) as having made a valid argument.
On the other hand, not all parents of great athletes value an "intense higher level of education". Were that the case, none of us would've ever heard of IMG Academy. I'm not saying those parents are right or wrong, just stating a fact.
I like that bdhof can pain you. On the other hand both of my young sons (30+) went to Ohio U and Alliance High School and all has panned out well. Both are going through the midlife crisis and playing semi-pro football but wrestled in college. Who needs an intense level of education? Help me Pope Francis 1.
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Old 08-02-18, 10:10 AM
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Old 08-02-18, 10:24 AM
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Catholic to Public- if you are at a private school, you are allowed to transfer back to your home/district school one time.

If the entire Norwood family buys a house in Cincinnati and moves to attend LaSalle, then he's good to go. Lancaster to LaSalle is a long move, not sure an AD or Ohio High School could do much with that. That type of move and making a H.S. kid sit would be open for a law suit.
I get the moving part and since I have no clue of the ends and outs of the rule, what struck me was if a move is into a public school district, you can attend and participate without issue, but if you move into that new public school district and then want to attend a different school (private) does that pose an issue? I would think not, but I'm not sure I've ever seen this dynamic discussed.
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