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Old 06-27-17, 12:40 PM
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You are arguing that other coaches could have achieved the same success Phil did. Sure it's possible, but not at all likely.
Right.

Some coaches may have won one or two less, some few coaches may have won the same amount of titles but in different years, and some coaches may even have won more in different years out of the total.

Some observers may say that Phil biggest coaching failure lies in that he couldn't keep Shaq and Kobe together, and some may say few could have kept them on track as long as he did.
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Old 06-27-17, 12:42 PM
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Some coaches may have won one or two less, some few coaches may have won the same amount of titles but in different years, and some coaches may even have won more in different years out of the total.
You're being pretty cavalier with this statement. It is HIGHLY unlikely any other coach would have won "one or two less" or "the same amount," and ridiculously unlikely any other coach would have won more.

You agreed with my statement, but then immediately contradicted yourself.
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Old 06-27-17, 12:53 PM
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You're being pretty cavalier with this statement. It is HIGHLY unlikely any other coach would have won "one or two less" or "the same amount," and ridiculously unlikely any other coach would have won more.

You agreed with my statement, but then immediately contradicted yourself.
You should backread.

Considering the length of Shaq's effective career and Phil's title drought that followed Shaq's departure, you are obviously discounting the potential of another coach to hold things together.

That's not really the kind of conjecture that inspires me to make such definitive statements, but you're certainly entitled to be wrong if you wish.
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Old 06-27-17, 12:56 PM
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I'm shocked you can't follow that post.
I'm shocked that you couldn't do any better with the English language.
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Old 06-27-17, 12:58 PM
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Phil's reaction on reading the last three pages of blather-

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Old 06-27-17, 12:58 PM
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I didn't say no one else could, but to assume as much would be asinine. Also, his position in NYC has nothing to do with his coaching resume. They are two completely different matters.
Good thing that no one has done that^.

Does it really take 3 Nati-idiots to play this game ?
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Old 06-27-17, 12:59 PM
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Phil's reaction on reading the last three pages of blather-

Where is the throne ? He needs the throne ! Can't you see he's suffering!?!?
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Old 06-27-17, 01:05 PM
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I don't think there's any question Chuck Daly keeps Shaq and wins 13 titles. Good call. What a moron.
Personally, I love it when one of you goofs take a concept, sarcastically flips, and then goes to the polar opposite to pretend to agree with an extreme position held by no one.

You may as well have tapped out. You have nothing left but your juvenile d00shbaggery. It's your go-to
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Old 06-27-17, 01:16 PM
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Good thing that no one has done that^.
You basically did with this post:

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Some coaches may have won one or two less, some few coaches may have won the same amount of titles but in different years, and some coaches may even have won more in different years out of the total.
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Old 06-27-17, 01:24 PM
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You basically did with this post:
Basically, no.

I went out of my way, after the most basic level of agreement, to differentiate between an identical record of Finals won, lost, second round exits.......whatever. You parsed it out, and responded to half of a post that was only a few sentences. Your response ignored the finer point that you consciously omitted.

Given these facts, how is anyone to conclude that you're not either purposefully being a d1ck or are a moron ?
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Old 06-27-17, 01:25 PM
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I didn't ignore "the finer point" of your post. You blatantly contradicted yourself. You can't seem to effectively communicate exactly what your "finer point is."
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Old 06-27-17, 01:27 PM
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I didn't ignore "the finer point" of your post. You blatantly contradicted yourself. You can't seem to effectively communicate exactly what your "finer point is."
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Right.

Some coaches may have won one or two less, some few coaches may have won the same amount of titles but in different years, and some coaches may even have won more in different years out of the total.

Some observers may say that Phil biggest coaching failure lies in that he couldn't keep Shaq and Kobe together, and some may say few could have kept them on track as long as he did.
No contradiction whatsover.

You must be better with numbers.
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Old 06-27-17, 02:40 PM
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No doubt

11 championships in 20 seasons!!!!!!
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Old 06-27-17, 02:50 PM
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Time for the Nati-clone circle jerk again, I see. Kemp must be occupied.
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Old 06-27-17, 02:51 PM
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Im not even sure what the argument is about. Phil was one of the greatest coaches of all time
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Old 06-27-17, 04:11 PM
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Don't know enough about any of them to say otherwise. However in my lifetime no question Phil was the best, maybe of all time
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Old 06-27-17, 06:53 PM
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Im not even sure what the argument is about. Phil was one of the greatest coaches of all time
No doubt about it. Phil was a terrific coach. One of the very best ever, for sure, and maybe THE best. Definitely the best at picking a job. Undoubtedly the most successful, and has been hired by two of the best NBA general managers ever to construct a roster.

Ever hear of John Wooden ? Where do you think he ranks among college basketball coaches ?
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Weirdo thinks Daly, Hubie Brown, Watkins, Nellie, and Lenny Wilkens would have put up similar records and championships as Phil with Phil's roster.
Don't forget Popovich.
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Old 06-27-17, 07:06 PM
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No doubt about it. Phil was a terrific coach. One of the very best ever, for sure, and maybe THE best. Definitely the best at picking a job. Undoubtedly the most successful, and has been hired by two of the best NBA general managers ever to construct a roster.

Ever hear of John Wooden ? Where do you think he ranks among college basketball coaches ?

Was speaking in terms of pro basketball
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Old 06-28-17, 05:57 AM
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Was there any reason to believe at Bill Belichick could be successful after his coaching stint in Cleveland ... no, but in a better situation become wildly successful. Just because you didn't do something in one situation does not mean you couldn't in another situation ... just look at Mike De'Antoni, NBA coach of the year ... in the right situation is succesful (HOU/ARIZ) but in a different situation(NY) looked awful ... to say that Phil Jackson in the history of the world is the only person who could have done what he did is just plain ignorant! or being a troll.

PS - Red Auerbach -- could he have done it?
D'Antoni had the right trajectory in NY. Just wasn't given enough time to rebuild what Carmelo destroyed by pushing for a trade when he could have signed in the offseason and had a lot of good pieces around him. I don't really blame him for resigning in 2011-12. Melo was a total cancer who was fine with sharing a team with Amr'e, a fading former star, but publicly shunned "rising star" Jeremy Lin during Linsanity.

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Old 06-28-17, 05:58 AM
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Time for the Nati-clone circle jerk again, I see. Kemp must be occupied.
Nah, waiting for you to address my last post. You (not so) shockingly stopped responding.
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Old 06-28-17, 06:18 AM
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Phil gone today. Took Dolan long enough.
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Old 06-28-17, 11:20 AM
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Hopefully Phil's termination ends this miserable thread. Lots of pointless arguing and speculating. Get a life y'all.
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Old 06-28-17, 11:42 AM
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You complain about this in nearly every thread you post in. Two things: 1) it's an internet message board. This is what it's made for. Pointless arguing and speculating. 2) Don't like it? Don't open the thread.
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Old 06-28-17, 05:35 PM
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Phil is one of if not the best ever, to argue otherwise is stupid. But he did not adapt with the game post-Lakers. His statements on 3 pointers, advanced metrics, and the necessity of the triangle show how out of touch he was with the direction the NBA was moving.

You could say he just got old, but Jerry West is 80 and has always had his hand on the pulse of the direction the game was moving.
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Old 06-29-17, 03:56 PM
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Was speaking in terms of pro basketball
Yeah, but as recruiter and coach, he did more than just coach a great roster. He also constructed it.
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Old 06-29-17, 03:57 PM
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Nah, waiting for you to address my last post. You (not so) shockingly stopped responding.
What post is that ?

I'm guessing it was another one of your inane deflections.
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Old 06-29-17, 04:01 PM
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What post is that ?

I'm guessing it was another one of your inane deflections.
^weak deflection, even for Weirdo.
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Old 06-29-17, 04:05 PM
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Phil is one of if not the best ever, to argue otherwise is stupid.
No one did in this thread. Ever. Not once. Not sure why you'd have that^ sentence.

A couple goofs on Phil's knob itt seem to believe that he is a singular coaching talent, and probably the only man under any circumstances that could win 11 titles with the Bulls and Lakers from 1989-2011, though. That's pertinent and factual.

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But he did not adapt with the game post-Lakers. His statements on 3 pointers, advanced metrics, and the necessity of the triangle show how out of touch he was with the direction the NBA was moving.

You could say he just got old, but Jerry West is 80 and has always had his hand on the pulse of the direction the game was moving.
All very true. You finished strong.
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Phil is one of if not the best ever, to argue otherwise is stupid. But he did not adapt with the game post-Lakers. His statements on 3 pointers, advanced metrics, and the necessity of the triangle show how out of touch he was with the direction the NBA was moving.

You could say he just got old, but Jerry West is 80 and has always had his hand on the pulse of the direction the game was moving.
Weirdo tried and failed. No surprise though.
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